HTC: 'most phones' launched in 2010 will get Android 2.2
By Vlad Savov 
posted May 21st 2010 4:10AM
posted May 21st 2010 4:10AM
posted May 21st 2010 4:10AM
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What about the older HTC phones?
@Exzra
You'll need to hack them most likely, but then you can have froyo in a few weeks (expect flash performance to be horrible though!)
@Bratyr That's true. I think i'm gonna wait for the good ol' people at xda to work their magic.
@Exzra
what are the new 2010 htc phones with 2.2? Will they be available in the UK? I feel like were being screwed as The best android phone weve got is the desire (i cant even get a milestone on contract).
@Exzra : HTC Hero will get FroYo on 2011, right before "ginger bread". Mark my words!
@Exzra Hopefully it doesn't take 6 months for Sprint to release Froyo to the Evo like they did with the Moment and Hero, but there's always XDA...
@tobsmonster2
How about the Nexus One?
I think it's on Vodaphone.
@Exzra The Nexus One (along with the Motorola Milestone) will be the first phones updated, as it doesn't have HTC's Sense installed.
@Exzra for old phones just go on xda and have fun rooting it.
What effin BS. Its almost foolish to buy anything other than the Nexus One. Who the hell do they think they are to take 8 months to release an update. They just expect you to buy a new phone that comes with the new OS pre-installed. Imagine if Microsoft refused to release updates to Windows online and you had to buy a new boxed copy every 3 months to get the latest patches slipstreamed, or wait 1 year to get them on Windows Update.
@Exzra
nexus = desire and I don't wan't either.
@xtasi
yeah!HTC Hero(GSM) will skip the 2.1 update,and will go straight to 2.2 coming to the device in 2011,when 3.0 comes out!But then it will skip the 2.2 update and go straight to 3.0...and it goes on and on forever!
why is it,that i can't belive a word what HTC is saying about any update?hmm
@Kurian
If you bought a PC with Windows Vista, Microsoft didn't give you free Windows 7. (unless you bought during the 3 month transition phase)
@Exzra
Nexus One's sold on vodaphone will still get the update at the same time, even if provided by voda, its still completely unlocked
@Kurian
So basically what you're telling me is because HTC wants you to buy another one of their phones they'll alienate their customers.
Something about that doesn't sit quite right with me.
@liftedngifted1 this is a major negative of buying the EVO, plus the $10 more per month. I will be buying one, but it does make me pause.
@Exzra O what fragmented webs they weave I'll stick with my favorite fruit
@Kurian Apple does a major update once a year, so six months is not too much to ask...
@Bratyr Use "A4D Mobile Utility" by http://www.androidtechnical.info/romlib.html to get the latest ROMs.
@etwashoo2
Windows doesn't come out every 6 months, or even every 2 years.
"Its almost foolish to buy anything other than the Nexus One."
Except, you know, if you want to be on a good carrier (Verizon, Sprint). AT&T and T-Mobile just don't cut it. Well... maybe if you're deaf.
The hero isn't a 2010 android device.
So odds are it won't go past 2.1
@tobsmonster2 The Desire is one of the first 2 HTC 2010 phones to receive 2.2 from what I heard..
so what is the issue with fragmentation now? is there a valid solution?
@annoynimous
That's MOSTLY invalid now...well let just forget about G1 and other phones, they are old anyway
@ojuniour
i'm talking about transitioning from Froyo to Gingerbread, will that be at the mercy of OEMs, or have they provided a solution? Why is no one questioning Google about this :/
@annoynimous
For some people, no offense, they just like to have something out there that has some chance to go head to head with iPhoneOS so that they are willing to take all kinds of craps throwing to them by the big G. Joke aside, upgrade or not is soft of controlled by either the phone manufacturers or the carriers. It's not entirely up to Google.
@annoynimous : allegedly FroYo will let us plebs to udate OS before the carriers/MFR deem us worthy. Updates after 2.2 should be in the market place. We "should" be able to update components. I sure hope so. I just installed 2.1 on my phone. JIT for 2.2 has huge improvements. My contract will probably expire before I can get an upgrade.
@annoynimous
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/exclusive-android-froyo-to-take-a-serious-shot-at-stemming-plat/
hopefully that comes true...
@Andrew Lan
and that is a problem by itself. HTC isn't keen on updates (everyone agrees here) and rather change screen sizes, body sizes, button positions, upgrades/downgrades the ram and processor,creates a new phone and badge it with some random name every 3-4 months (everyone agree?). I see this as ending up being another one of those expensive hobbies similar to PC enthusiasts (chasing AMD Radeon upgrades and benchmarking OCs)
@xtasi
@clue
thanks for the heads up, i hope so too... but I would say corporate greed will control the market (ie. HTC would rather sell you a new phone every few months)
@annoynimous
If you look major updates for (ahem) other devices, think it's about once per year, so the update schedule of Android isn't that bad in prospective, although ideally obviously quicker is better. I think pure technical reasons mainly explain why updates depend on the manufacturer (for example custom UI like Sense) or carrier (the radio drivers are specific for the carrier and has to be tested to be working for every release, plus carriers will want to add in bug fixes for specific issues with that show up with their network).
Actually, I don't think Google really said anything about the decoupling of core apps in 2.2, they mostly focused on developer features today. However, I don't see why it's not possible, they've done something like that for Maps before.
In the meantime, it should be fairly obvious that if you want the quickest updates, buy a device with vanilla Android, preferably with clear Google partnership (right now that means the Droid and the Nexus One).
@annoynimous Are you that troll account5
@annoynimous Are you that troll account5 seems like you are spouting the same exact garbage word for word
@annoynimous
I see where you're coming from and clarification about Froyo's fragmentation fix would be nice, but worring about upgrade cycles is ridiculous my Hero does everything I need a phone to do and after getting sick of waiting root and a custom ROM have me running 2.1 VERY easily so what is there to worry about ?
@annoynimous Chasing GPU upgrades has nothing on SSD drives. You get major GPU releases maybe once or twice a year. SSD drives are coming out with new controllers and models with slightly different performance and size specs damn near every day it seems. It makes HTC and most phone manufacturers draconian in comparison.
@annoynimous from what Andy Rubin said yesterday it sounds like that the fragmentation will continue. Take out of it what you will anytime you have an industry that's innovating at this pace will have problems with "fragmentation"
http://www.androidcentral.com/androids-andy-rubin-its-legacy-not-fragmentation
@annoynimous
Ultimately I think there will always be 2 or 3 version of Android running.
There are just to much devices.
it's not really a big deal since most apps are backward compatible.
I'm afraid it's the end of the road for the older Android phones. The Hardware just won't cut it. 1 ghz is in and it's here to stay. For G1 owners, this shouldn't be too big of a deal because it's almost time for an upgrade for the early adopters. If you are a hero or moment owner, tough luck. Take comfort in the 2.1 updates you all just got.
In today's electronic world, waiting to buy a gadget until the latest and greatest arrives, means that you will never own a gadget. Everytime something is released, it's eclipsed by something better down the road not too far away.
@Starfleet Captain "I'm afraid it's the end of the road for the older Android phones. The Hardware just won't cut it. 1 ghz is in and it's here to stay."
in case you haven't read a single piece of android news in the last couple of days, froyo is much faster than previous firmwares
@Starfleet Captain
i'd be pretty mad if i'd brought an older android phone and couldn't get an upgrade.
@mrqs
Not to mention there have been several sub1Ghz Android releases such as the HTC Legend, and the Motorola Backflip that have been released alongside the Snapdragon high end models.
What about my Droid?
@tehwyman
That's vanilla android, so won't be affected by the HTC Sense time lag!
Like the N1, you should get it once Froyo is released :)
@tehwyman
Ditto
@mattpez If the delay in getting 2.1 is any indication there will be a bit of a wait for 2.2 on the droid (with a false hope of it being released "any time now" every few weeks). Hopefully that delay was just to fix issues with the Droid itself (great being able to unplug my headphones without muting the phone speaker), and this one will come out much sooner.
@chimpmitten I think the wait was like a full month from the first announcement. It was annoying but it wasn't that big of a deal in the long run. I am very happy with 2.1 so I'm not going to lose that much sleep over a little of a wait for 2.2. But once they announce it, I will start getting some mild shakes and twitches for the wait. :)
@Starfleet Captain
I can accept that G1 is a old phone since it was released in 2008.
But what about my HTC Tattoo that was released less than a year ago in September 2009? Is that an old phone too? I don't think so.
And you know what, I only have it for 3 months.
When I was buying it everybody on the internet were 100% confident that it will get 2.1, even my mobile operator told me that.
And all of a sudden it's an old phone.
I really can't accept that.
I am so angry on HTC and I don't think I'll ever buy their phone again.
@lukic
But what is it you want the developers to do? Are you saying they should ignore the hardware innovations coming out and take older slower phones as the benchmark for which to build to? If your phone isn't fast enough to process Flash, or it lacks the hardware to process 3D accelerated interfaces, what really do you see as the solution?
@Tes
that's all bs, the hardware is fully capable of running éclair - even the g1 can do that
it's just that manufacturers don't want to upgrade "old" phones
(stuck on donut with samsung galaxy myself - officially i should still be on cupcake)