@mnhthebest The point is to be able to use gestures, which are really convenient on the MacBooks. Generally, mice are faster for working a computer, but once you've figured out OSX gestures, I think you might find the trackpad to be pretty brilliant. But different strokes for different folks.
i find gestures in general a horribly unintuitive method for interacting with software, blind gestures especially(if they're not blind, then they're just input). now, I do use mouse a lot of the time as if gesturing, with no thought needed to accomplish moving the cursor to some desired positions that tend to be the same on the screen.
I do like scrolling on touchpads though, that doesn't need a lot of precision.
and this product - it's basically what apple killed when they acquired that multitouch outfit. except their product was also a keyboard. and worked with a pc. and didn't have a competitor on the market already. with this.. you already have moved your hand away from the keyboard, might as well have gone for the mouse.
"Touch" is to the computer what the "motion controller" is to console gaming -- put it anywhere and everywhere, never mind if it's less efficient/more tedious most of the time.
@glassfin I hated gestures until I used a MacBook, Apple has really thought about some of their gestures. To scroll down, you just wipe two fingers down on the trackpad. Even if I am at a desk with a mouse plugged in to a MacBook, I STILL prefer to use the trackpad, because it's so much easier to just swipe my hand across a smooth surface than to spin a wheel with my finger, it's so much easier on the wrists.
Anyway, coming from someone who loved his mouse, try out a Mac trackpad and gestures. They're unlike any other gesture system you've used before, they're easy and really reduce strain on your wrist. A mouse and a keyboard really fatigue my wrists, but the trackpad and gestures are really great for extended computing and quick navigating.
"Apple has really thought about some of their gestures. To scroll down, you just wipe two fingers down on the trackpad."
Apple invented this?
"it's so much easier to just swipe my hand across a smooth surface than to spin a wheel with my finger, it's so much easier on the wrists."
I just tried spinning the wheel on my mouse. Magically, my wrist didn't even move?
before ya get all hot n bothered, I'm using a MBP and I even agree w/ you about the whole using the trackpad thing even if a mouse is around.. jus sayin'
I can't see how swiping your hand across a surface could be less tedious than a flick of the finger. With free-spin wheels nowadays, scrolling with the mouse has never been faster and that effortless.
If you have problems with your wrist when using a mouse, it's probably because you are using a mouse that doesn't fit you.
@Mr Blue You don't have to invent something to perfect it. Also, the tendons that allow your fingers to move traverse through your carpel tunnel (carpel being finger), which makes up your wrist. It's also the part of your wrist that goes bad from excess typing. It's not the movement of the hand about the wrist, it's the movement of tendons through the wrist.
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No thanks a mouse is much better on a desktop for me
@mnhthebest
The point is to be able to use gestures, which are really convenient on the MacBooks. Generally, mice are faster for working a computer, but once you've figured out OSX gestures, I think you might find the trackpad to be pretty brilliant. But different strokes for different folks.
@James Sonne
i find gestures in general a horribly unintuitive method for interacting with software, blind gestures especially(if they're not blind, then they're just input). now, I do use mouse a lot of the time as if gesturing, with no thought needed to accomplish moving the cursor to some desired positions that tend to be the same on the screen.
I do like scrolling on touchpads though, that doesn't need a lot of precision.
and this product - it's basically what apple killed when they acquired that multitouch outfit. except their product was also a keyboard. and worked with a pc. and didn't have a competitor on the market already. with this.. you already have moved your hand away from the keyboard, might as well have gone for the mouse.
@mnhthebest
Tell me about it.
"Touch" is to the computer what the "motion controller" is to console gaming -- put it anywhere and everywhere, never mind if it's less efficient/more tedious most of the time.
@WickedEast I still prefer keyboard and mouse for both of those things.
@glassfin
I hated gestures until I used a MacBook, Apple has really thought about some of their gestures. To scroll down, you just wipe two fingers down on the trackpad. Even if I am at a desk with a mouse plugged in to a MacBook, I STILL prefer to use the trackpad, because it's so much easier to just swipe my hand across a smooth surface than to spin a wheel with my finger, it's so much easier on the wrists.
Anyway, coming from someone who loved his mouse, try out a Mac trackpad and gestures. They're unlike any other gesture system you've used before, they're easy and really reduce strain on your wrist. A mouse and a keyboard really fatigue my wrists, but the trackpad and gestures are really great for extended computing and quick navigating.
@James Sonne um.. cpl things sir
"Apple has really thought about some of their gestures. To scroll down, you just wipe two fingers down on the trackpad."
Apple invented this?
"it's so much easier to just swipe my hand across a smooth surface than to spin a wheel with my finger, it's so much easier on the wrists."
I just tried spinning the wheel on my mouse. Magically, my wrist didn't even move?
before ya get all hot n bothered, I'm using a MBP and I even agree w/ you about the whole using the trackpad thing even if a mouse is around.. jus sayin'
@James Sonne
I can't see how swiping your hand across a surface could be less tedious than a flick of the finger. With free-spin wheels nowadays, scrolling with the mouse has never been faster and that effortless.
If you have problems with your wrist when using a mouse, it's probably because you are using a mouse that doesn't fit you.
@Mr Blue
You don't have to invent something to perfect it.
Also, the tendons that allow your fingers to move traverse through your carpel tunnel (carpel being finger), which makes up your wrist. It's also the part of your wrist that goes bad from excess typing. It's not the movement of the hand about the wrist, it's the movement of tendons through the wrist.