The HL-R6768W, Samsung's 67-inch DLP TV
By Peter Rojas 
posted Apr 29th 2005 7:30AM
posted Apr 29th 2005 7:30AM
Samsung announced something like twenty new TVs yesterday, including six new LCDs, but the real biggie (both literally and figuratively) is the HL-R678W, a new 67-incher which supposedly ranks as the world's largest DLP TV (and we're inclined to believe them). Better still, the HL-R6768W rocks the 1080p, which is more or less the holy grail for HDTVs (at least when it comes to resolution), built-in NTSC and ATSC tuners, dual HDMI inputs, and support for CableCARD. Should hit stores in June with an MSRP of $6,199.
Is it true that these new Samsungs do away with the DVI input in favor of HDMI-only? I have heard that's the case, and some guys in the AVS Forum have been specifically buying up the old sets for that reason. Apparently HDMI does not have the bandwidth for 1080p? (I guess it's a stretch even for single-channel DVI.)
Well, it should do; HDMI is just DVI on a different pin out, with Audio integrated. DVI was built to support 1920x1080p, ultimatly, and monitors are going higher still with 1920x1200 resolutions, which lower the blanking timings slightly.
DVI -> HDMI cables exisit so theee is no reason to stress about lossing DVI sockets ($100+ from BestBuy, $15 mail order).
I belive HDMI allows for more robust signalling to be auto-negotiated to support longer interconectcable lengths so it is a nice standard to move to.
I'm glad this set costs $6000+, I was concered that I should have held off buying my 61" DLP Samsung for $3300, now I can watch it with out feelign so bad (for a couple of years anyway, until all of these sets are <$1500)
HP also gave out specs for it's new 4X wobulation set dlp sets. AKA: use a 720P chip to produce true 1080P. Pretty sweet stuff. Do a google search on "wobulation" and check out the pop sci article.
HP also gave out specs for it's new 4X wobulation set dlp sets. AKA: use a 720P chip to produce true 1080P. Pretty sweet stuff. Do a google search on "wobulation" and check out the pop sci article.
Forgot to add to #3, Only TWO HDMI sockets?
I seriously don't know what these guys are thinking of....
... My 61" Samsung has only Two Digital conections (1xHDMI, 1xDVI) and it is a huge design flaw.
At that kidn of money, you can garantee the owner is goign to have more than two fo the followign within the next 1 year:
Cable HDTV
Satalite HD-TV
Off-Air HD-TV
PlayStation 3
Xbox360
Next Gen Nintendo
Digital Upscalling DVD Player
BluRay Movie Player
HD-DVD Player
Media PC
DVR
!!!
HDTV is said to use less than half the bandwidth that HDMI can support (5Gbps).
http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/faq.asp
#5 I did a quick check of "wobulation", I don't think it will give true 1080p as I belive they are vertically interlacing the lines (so doubling the cabability of DLP chips) so with a 1280x720 DLP chip you could acchieve 1280x1440. You could drop-out some fo the vertical lines or double up some pixels to display 1280x1080p but I fail to see how you would get the 1920 pixel part without horizontal interlace as well (which doesn't seem to be mentioend in the articles I've read). So no *true* *1920* x 1080p.
Regarding post 8:
Wobulation or no wobulation. What you are seeing is still a 1080p picture. It doesn't mean jack how they produce it under the covers. It is still a 1080p picture.
#8 The example in the pop sci article refers only to 2X wobulation which only works 1 dimensionally. So, yes, you are correct. However, with the new 4X technology, the pixels that are overlayed are not only next to each other on the top and bottem, but also on the sides, therefor not only doubling vertical resolution, but also horizontal. Then again, I could be misinterpertaing it. But regardless, you still get higher resolution on a smaller chip.
I'm thrilled at the price of this thing. I was planning on getting the 70" Sony KDF-70XBR950, which retails at $7,000. The picture is awesome, but it isn't 1080p.
This IS the holy grail of TV's. I am dying to see the picture on this thing. If it holds up to the gorgeous Sony XBR, I can't justify not buying it...
BTW..this isn't the biggest set out there anymore. Mitsuishi announced a couple weeks ago that they are coming out with a 73" 1080P unit this year. WD-73727 $5799
One major thing to remember though about 1080P: there is vertually zero content right now. No over the air, no cable, no sat, and no DVD.
What I thought was the case about 1080p is that studios use it for editing but then drop it to either 1080i or 720p to send to broadcasters. And that there won't be any content broadcast in 1080P (for like a decade or two, at least).
So I'm thinking that 1080p is great since you don't have to have a trade off anymore between having to upscale from 720p or losing progressive scan to keep the higher resolution. You don't have to worry anymore because your TV can do it.
Which isn't quite the same as watching 1080p source, but it's still a nice feature.
Or am I wrong about this?
i could be wrong, i dont watch any tv at all..but..
isnt 2 hdmi enough, as youll probably plug in a reciever/bunch of other shit (video amp?) and thereby increase the number of ports?also, whoever said that theres a 73 - there isnt one until they sell it..this is engadget, you should know this by now :]
These DLP TV's were announced back in January at CES.
Also, there will be a 71" and 50" (both in the 78 series cabinet design) which weren't mentioned in the Press Releases.
Saw the set today at Home Entertainment Show. Yes, this is the Holy Grail (forgetting that I happen to be Jewish...) Without a doubt the single most exciting consumer electronic product I have ever seen. The picture to these eyes is effictively without pixelation - is truly painterly. The unit itself is beautiful. I will be buying this the week it comes out. Also, had a chance to see it next to the Qualia. At twice the price and comparing a production (qualia) to a beta unit (the Samsung) although I admit to not being able to follow some of the comparison test patterns being shown; the Qualia at best, was only equivalent to the samsung. Also, the Samsung is "made to fit" - the idea being that this set will be acceptable to my partner (read wife)while a 70" incher, fawgeddaboutit!
Does anyone know the overall deminsions for the 67” HL-R6768W & 61" HL-R6168W.
Also, will it accept an external 1080p signal? I have read concerns that many units will only accept 1080i input from an external source.
if anyone has this tv please tell me how i am suppose to turn on the DNie, when i press the DNie button on the remote control it simply splits this screen into two , there is text on top that says DNIE DEMO and it simply shows WITH DNIE & WITHOUT DNIE, its great with dnie but how do i make the DEMO go away and watch my full screen in DNIE?
You have this TV jimmy? Im trying to find it...where'd u get it?
DON'T get Samsung, these guys dont care about the customers anymore like they used to back in 1990's. I had one of these TV's ( 46 inch version ) turns out the DNiE ( dynamic natural image engine ) feature... can only be turned on or off in a DEMO MODE. can you believe that, they even placed a special button on the remote control just for the demo, the real feature for home does not exist, the demo is for retail stores..
i am completely dissapointed with samsung recently, their new cell phones are cheap ( quality and value wise ) no wonder sprint is giving them away for free.
Its scary to see sony trying to parter up with samsung in the TV sector, i hope they wake up and realize samsung is nothing but total junk.