Latest iPod video rumors: 4-inch display, Jobs scrambling for content
It was too good to be true.
Just when we thought we might actually have a day free from Apple rumors (after all, doesn't Microsoft deserve to have the rumor mill to itself for at least a
little while?), ThinkSecret has hit us with word that the "true" video iPod is still coming, and that it
will have a 4-inch display, rather than the 3.5-inch one that was claimed in earlier rumors. ThinkSecret also reports
that the video iPod is on target for a March or April release, pending content deals with studios (which we assume will
come through, given that Steve Jobs basically owns Disney now). Of course, even if the video unit is delayed,
we assume Stevie will still schedule another big press conference sometime in the next few weeks. After all, Apple has
yet to announce the Intel-powered eMac and the pleather case for the shuffle.



















*$200 pleather case*
Mmm... no. I don't think Microsoft does deserve that. At least all the Apple rumors are just that, where-as Microsoft rumors don't really exist, they just get put out there by Microsoft. Oops, we launched our Vista Versions page early... oh look, we have projectorigami.com, and we're going to make you sit there and speculate it all for three weeks to get ourselves in the news. Seriously... wtf.
Yeah and the Microsoft rumors are usually boring. Their products are just..... awful.
Hopefully this new Ipod will have XM in it or something
Meh...
You'd think these folks behind Apple rumour sites to have better things to do with their time
you think you'd have something better to do than read apple rumor sites and posts. :)
Maybe they are going to release the Hifi in 6 different fruity colors?
Now THAT would warrant another media event!
The broadcom h.264 chip in the 4G ipod can decode up to SD h.264 right? But all the h.264 chip makers (ST Micro, Conexant, TI, etc..) and STB makers (Amino, SA/Cisco, will be releasing their HD h.264 products in March/April as well.
I wonder if Apple's putting in an HD h.264 chip in their video ipod "just in case", much like how they did it for the 4G.
I bet that as soon as the video ipod comes out, they'll put SD videos on itunes for the video ipod. And when everyone's bought the video ipod, they'll release a firmware upgrade that will enable SD playback on the 4G and HD playback on the video ipod.
Two things...
One, if that pic were real, that sharp shine on the top left (that goes from black to white) would be replicated on the bottom left, which is Apples signature "aqua" feel in their products.
Second, if this thing will be 4 inches, meaning a higher res than the iPod with video, does that mean that we'll have to choose which show to download (even redownload shows we already have), high res/lo res for the video iPod or the iPod with video?
I want it now been holding off on an ipod cuz I want the ipod video I hope it plays music too :)
Who cares about this. It's all about UMPCs these days. Give me one that fits in my pocket, and I'll be set.
Engadget, don't you ever tire of getting sucked-in yet again? Well, maybe Apple's marketing department already pays you to be a shill.
So, essentially it's something like an Archos AV500, but likely with less functionality and shorter battery life.
I meant the shine on the top right...
Job's owned about 51% of Pixar which became about 6% of Disney, so I assume that comment was sarcasm.
What the heck is that mock up picture..? Why would they go to 4" wide if they didn't keep the aspect ratio correct. What's the point of watching something widescreen with grey bars down the side..? Haven't you guy's learnt not to regurgitate ThinkSecret's stuff yet. If we want to know what they're smoking today, we'll just go there and find out...
Apple had their chance with me. I don't own anything Apple right now so I would assume I'm a pretty desirable kinda' guy to have buy their first Apple product. Too bad they didn't quench my thirst for big video when I had it. I've got my eye on the Creative Zen Vision (http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=210&subcategory=211&product=12985) and will probably go for it.
Sorry Steve -- you almost had me.
~ Kevin
I'm just waiting on the leather case for my iPod HiFi now.
I'm sure they'll announce the iWallet soon. It destroys any money you put into it via a series of firmware upgrades, is bright white to draw the attention of potential muggers and scratches really well. I'll then have to get a leather case for that too...
ThinkSecret = ThinkLies
I cant wait for that pleather case, i hope they stamp 8 Apple logos on there so everyone knows how much i love apple!
Are they going to do weekly "fun product" events now ?
Hahaha.... Apple must be really desperate to make the daily news stream. Get Jobs some girls so he can get a life.... and a fashion advisor...
iPods are already overpriced, i can see this thing costing upwards of 400$
I heard it best on last night's Your Mac Life internet broadcast... do you really think Apple will make a "full screen" ipod like this that would be so prone to scratches when they can't even make a Nano that doesn't scratch when you slide it into a cloth pocket? I thought that summed it up best.
Plus, who wants to watch their movies through the fingerprints and skin grease anyway?
Well, seems that if Microsoft wants to keep their tracks fine and make a bit more of headlines on Engadget, Bill Gates should start looking for really interesting people to work with, of the alternative culture types, not the fake stars or wanna-be-cool type, some with a bit more than an x-box vision... if this iPod really gets out, for a long time the benchmark it shall be. I WANT ONE!!!!
I just can't see Apple coming out with another iPod revamp so soon. If these rumors are true, then I think Apple needs to slow down a bit.
As far as Mac products, I'm glad they're finishing the transition to Intel so much quicker than originally thought. The reason why this week's Mac mini and iPod HiFi announcement was such a let down is because the media over dramatized the event. It should have been clear from the beginning that an event at Apple Town Hall wouldn't bring major products like a new iPod or even an Intel iBook.
I think we should ease up on Apple instead of continuing to hope for a new iPod. The current iPod lineup is excellent and still rather fresh. This week's announcements were boring, but we never should have expected more.
if it can make phone calls...
I'LL TAKE IT
If anything, a bigger screen on the iPod is a threat to the PSP, which although plays games, is a much better portable media player than anything else.
Apple has perhaps the best music interface. If they come out with a pod with a larger screen for media, then it'll certainly catch my eye.
#22:
The 5G iPod was no big deal, it was essentially the same as the 4G except it had a colour screen. Big deal. My 4G was content knowing that it would not be replaced and would be cozy in my pocket for some time to come.
I really couldn't care less for a video iPod like the one shown above, unless it had more content then TV shows or movies. When I'm on the go all I want is music, or perhaps a game to waste time while waiting for something. The iPod music player still has some evolving to do, let's see that!
homestarmecium: you meant to say 5th gen iPod I think.
The current iPod video (5th gen) is great. It's tiny, stores hundreds of movies, has a fat screen, and outputs movies onto a tv screen with a single cord up to 480 resolution (VHS quality). Don't wait; just get one. The 30GB is friggin' tiny; the 60GB is almost impossible to fill up...
This mockup you're drooling over is foolish. Who wants to watch a movie with a big round white dial masking half the screen? Oh it'll fade away? Whatever... (cinemascope).
There were some serious indications earlier this week that Stevie J had lined up the financing to buy the controlling interest in Disney. With the consumation of the Disney/Pixar deal, he'll hold a little over 14%of Disney through his, Apple's and Pixar exec's holdings of the combined company. Realitically, he only needs another 25% to have control.
Honestly, how many of you would wanna watch a 2 hour movie on the bus or train ride?
Come on, portable film viewing devices are useless, perhaps for sit coms etc.
This is hardly going to work when you can't even buy TV Shows in most countries yet.
Who outside of north america would buy the thing.
Ohh i hope this is true! Now if the price is about $300-$400 it looks like a great new ipod. I just hope the battery life is good more than 2 hrs of video playback like the 5g ipod has.
Has anyone tried to hold thier ipod sideways like this supposed video ipod is meant to be viewed?
I have tried to hold my ipod sideways and it is not comfortable at all. I don't think Apple would release this becasue you would not want to hold it for more than 5 minutes like this, uless they build a little kickstand in the back.
Good point #20 that thing will have more scratches on it then a little bit.
Man, you guys just can't wait to spend your money huh.
where is the push for apple to sign a shady deal with a hard drive manufacturer (akin to the nano flash deal) and get me a frekin ipod with a 100gig hard drive? if they are really pushing video and i already have over 60gigs of music where am i supposed to put those episodes of desperate housewives or conviction? if you are going to try and get me to watch terrible shows, give me space to store them.
Please Wide screen IPOD. i will supply my own content :).
We have seen this mock up floating around for a few months. I am interested to see how close it is to the final product. Looks good to me. I love the idea of the touch screen click (?) wheel.
Anyone else notice that ThinkSecret has been a bit more negative about Apple in their rumours lately?
"Anyone else notice that ThinkSecret has been a bit more negative about Apple in their rumours lately?"
Yeah, I think since Apple decided to start selling $99 leather sleeves, and using obvious hyperbole about their new boombox.
Ok lets be real here people.
Just so you know where I'm coming from here, I have a 5G 30 Gig. I can rip any movie on to it free. I have a couple of movies on there, as well as 1 show i bought on itunes. I have never watched any of this stuff in full, the battery will not last a whole movie. So what I am getting at is;
1. Who in their right mind is gonna watch a moive on a 4 inch screen, blindness anyone?
2. Battery life sucks already, the thing would have to be much bigger than the 5G to power a 4 inch screen with duper resolution.
3. This, like the 5G, to me is simply a novelty. The ipod's bread and butter is music, the movie part is simply for show. Music videos actually make sense, 3-4 minutes aint bad on the small screen, but all this movie business aint sitting well with me.
So if there is anyone out there that can justify this thing, give it to me, otherwise you are just one of those people who has to have it cause its new, hence novelty.
Who are these FOOLS thinking Apple is going ot release an iPod with sattelite radio in it? Whats in it for Apple? An APPLE branded SHUFFLE channel? Apple (Alpo?) has nothing to gain from that. NOTHING. They make money form their iTunes store (marginally) and from the hardware - they dont want to pay for chipsets from XM or Sirius - so stop dreaming.
Here is an idea for that - launch your own sattlite and broadcast the podcasts all day long. Oh, that would be terrific.
If they redesign the whole iPod for movie playing, I would also hope that they double up the battery, which unfortunately would add on the weight so it would weight as much as their competitors.
I'm just so sad because it seems that all movie studios are interested in subscription service. Oh hell.. I'm SO uninterested in subscribing to video. I'm all in for download to own. I could see an interest in "renting" a movie for $2 and it'd expire in a week. But not any more expensive.. then it'd be better to go rent it in the local video store, and back it up at home to watch it on the bus trip or whatever.
Is 'video iPod' Apple's secret internal project code-name for 'iPod Socks'?
A 4" display: Nice.
A touch screen: No dice! I don't know about you guys, but I sure as hell do not want to be touching the screen I'm trying to watch a show on. Finger prints, finger cheese, finger ji.... hehe no thanks.
Besides, didn't all the Apple circle jerks proclaim that Steve Job's released this on Feb 28th 2006?
If Apple has a brain in their head, they'll release a product of this nature with integrated BLUETOOTH, for use with wireless BT equipped headphones. As a matter of fact, the iPod should have both BT AND WiFi.
It's long overdue that they integrate some form of wireless in the iPod, not just rely on clunky third-party add-ons.
i just got a 5g ipod 2 months ago this is ridiculous that a lot major corporations. why didnt you just release this in the first place you idiots at apple. if 20 years down the road corporations own everyone i will stand out like a scratch on an ipod.
wow - in the first 50
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And, engadget is there!
Who cares?
How many people are going to go blind from looking at these tiny screens? DVD players, cell phones, pdas, ultra nano ipods, Oragami tablets... I use a 19 inch screen and even it is starting to damage my vision I think.
eMac? also, battery life on this one? Double display same battery size. That's 1/4 of the current video ipod if my math is right. Whats that
Umm...Jobs only has 8% holdings in Disney stock...it gives him leverage as the strongest shareholder but hardly makes him the "owner."
@ 7/MuDoggy. "One, if that pic were real"
That fake picture has been out for months now. Everyone knows it's fake.
@ 14/KevinFreitas. "I've got my eye on the Creative Zen Vision and will probably go for it."
I'd suggest you look into the Archos AV500, the Cowon (iAudio) A2, the i-Station v43 (or C&C re-branded), Maxian T600, or Viliv P1. All these products are atleast 4" and play a plethora of different formats; some even include line-in video recording, GPS navigation, over-the-air TV streaming (DMB) etc.
@ 21/z: "if this iPod really gets out, for a long time the benchmark it shall be"
How could this be the benchmark? Current iPods aren't even a benchmark from a technical or feature standpoint. What's been mentioned in this "rumour" is already offered in many other products that are available NOW.
@ 28/Armin. "Honestly, how many of you would wanna watch a 2 hour movie on the bus or train ride?
Come on, portable film viewing devices are useless, perhaps for sit coms etc."
Judging by the amount of portable DVD players and the amount of people watching movies on PMPs & PSPs and DAPs with colour screens (iAudio X5, iRivers, iPod 5G, etc) I'd say a lot. People even watch TV on their cellphone screens now. Take a look outside for more evidence.
This is false. This is based off of a flash animation some deviantART user created, with what they think it will be like.
I just got an ipod update and it has changed significantly--including a widescreen look and loads of movie trailers for the major studios. Looks like a matter of time, or Jobs is showing the level of interest in the current purchase model.
I personally love all the rumors surrounding Apple. They are much more exciting IMO than any other companies, and the products released are great. Other companies could learn a thing or two from Mr. Jobs.
WOW! 4 INCH touch screen!!!
YAWN! My Toshiba PocketPC had that 2 years ago.
"Haven't you guy's learnt not to regurgitate ThinkSecret's stuff yet. If we want to know what they're smoking today, we'll just go there and find out..."
ThinkSecrets reputation is impeccable, that is the one place Engadget needs to be if they want to entertain Mac rumors. Where Engadget gets themselves into trouble is reporting rumor sites that have no credibility.
"I heard it best on last night's Your Mac Life internet broadcast... do you really think Apple will make a "full screen" ipod like this that would be so prone to scratches when they can't even make a Nano that doesn't scratch when you slide it into a cloth pocket? I thought that summed it up best."
First, it is likely and reasonable that Apple would bevel the edges for the new players, among other things. This is sensible in light of the force of their product, legal issues pending, and rumors suggesting this. Second, of all I think that is a common understanding that no screen is going to be scratch proof, and that if this is a big concern of yours, take care of it, and buy a case. Apple is forced to confront this issue for future players, and I think they will.
I have a touchscreen iPod on my desk!
http://static.flickr.com/56/107088766_64e4c59054_o.jpg
...I wish...
Apple are bound to introduce that iPod video but one thing that I can see is that they will loose the appeal of the click wheel. For me that is the reason the iPod did so well in the first place. If they go for a touch screen ipod without the wheel that is a huge risk for them. Only time will tell, I keep up to date on my iPod news at http://www.blog.easyipod.co.uk
Am I the only who realizes that you can't eat cheetohs and use this iPod! ... say good bye to watching the Wizard of Oz while listening to Pink Floyd, etc etc
Kind odd. I though that the pic looked a lot like my Palm LifeDrive sans the buttons/five way. Now that they say it's 4 inches, I pulled out my ruler... 4inches on the dot. Odd that. Anyway. A nice vision, but having watch 20+ hours of video on my LifeDrive (with TCPMP), I assure you that while a cute touch screen *looks* cool. Ya don't really want to keep smudging your screen. I like my hard buttons. Oh well. If Apple can make a solid state (no HD) flat as a Nano device with full face video, I'll be impressed. If it's as thick as the LifeDrive I have, it's a yawner. I've had it for over a year now and wouldn't recommend it.
Wasn't the eMac discontinued?
eMac. OUCH.
uhhhh,they shouldnt make a new ipod like that.first,they introduce the ipod nano,right after that,they introduced the video.its just dumb to make a new ipod.
I’ve seen this kind of thing before, but Jobs wouldn’t leak this kind of thing. It is not Jobs style + the Brits got sued when they told the public a day early about the latest incarnation of the ipod.
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wow! I hate ipods but that looks nice!
I am absolutely agree that it's fake...
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