If you've been ogling Dell's
XPS 600
Renegade gaming rig since CES, and waiting to get your hands on one, now's your chance. If you're prepared to spend
close to $10,000, that is ($9,930, to be precise). So, what do you get for that price, other than the dubious ability to
boast that you spent ten grand on a Dell, dude? For starters, it's got NVIDIA Quad-SLI graphics and an overclocked
Pentium 965 Extreme Edition running at 4.26 GHz. Dell is also throwing in their
30-inch 3007WFP display, which regularly goes for $2,199, making
this a veritable bargain! Well, maybe not. But, hey, there's always that paint job, right? That's gotta be worth
something.
posted Mar 22nd 2006 10:25AM
-->Incapacitated due to rolling over ****ing laughing at a Pentium in a Gaming machine
Last time I checked, the AMD processors all failed, smoked up, melted, or just basically ended up being a waste of money, but all the Intel Pentium's survived to see another day.
PROOF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7XosLKUJEE and a video note: it clearly shows the processor is under loud from a game. Look whos laughing now!!
I don't see why anyone would want to do all their physics math in serial.
Stream co processors, FTW.
$10000 !!!!! BUT ITS STILL A DELL :( !!!
Plus i bet if you buy all the kit thats in this thing seperatly you could get if for half the price!!
Iam sticking with my shuttle !!
i like how the flame paint job symbolizes burning 6 cubic feet of your money ...on a dell
Besides the stupid-rich, who would buy this? You could get a nice used car for that kinda dough.
Quick survey: where do you draw the line dollar(pound)-wise on what you spend to play computer games? Maybe I'm just getting older, but beyond a decent video card I just don't see the point.
I'm w/ #2 on this one. You could buy all the parts al la carte and build this thing @ a substansial savings.
Anyway, iDidn't know this had a Physx chip. This seems useless to me. Not too many games support a dedicated processor for this function & iDoubt too many ppl well cough up the $500 they want for this add in card.
As multi-core CPU advances, developers will be able to use the CPU for physics.
i can barley believe some people are sad enough to spend so much to play games - especially when its like 1 or 2 games (unreal etc) get a life seriously, or just buy a console and save a few grand.
Jared: I'm with you. I don't know what the limit is, but it's a hell of a lot lower than that.
I think getting decent PC ports on a $400 XBox360 ain't half bad though, and you can use the TV you already have. Maybe the ($500?) PS3 will be even better. I love video gaming and I don't want to stop, but I have to prioitize a bit.
It is only 10k. Oh what the hell -- we'll throw in a free 30" I guess...
Does the $10k include all the tech support/part replacement costs the thing's going to run up in its lifetime?
And its still not as fast as a Xbox 360. Come on people. Why???? WHYYYYY????? Xbox 360 was my first console sence the NES. I have been a computer gamer for yeaaaarrs. But why? You have to spend like 2000 a year to keep up with the fastest computer games and graphics. Or you could spend $399 and get a 360 that will look awesome for years!!!!!!!!
...or are you actually getting high-quality, brand name hardware for the premium price?
as an aside, would it have a BIOS you could use to tweak things on your own?
...I know this won't matter in the grand scheme of things, since this is pretty much for the "Idiot Gamer" (someone with a lot of money and little knowledge of computers who just wants the most superlative box) and I'm confident most gamers realize that a 2 or 3000 dollar box does the same job.
Does it come with all the standard Dell bloatware also? If I bought this machine (and i sure as hell won't), the first course of action would be to format and install a fresh version of Windows.
And I also agree with #1, where is the option for an AMD processor. Do PC enthusiasts even buy Intel CPUs these days? And if you are "hardcore" enough to even consider buying this, why wouldn't you just build your own and save some money?
It's okay if you're a spoiled little brat who knows nothing about computers and who's daddy would gladly spend $10 grand on you for a so called "gaming rig", ut i'll stick to building my own thank you.
Yea, but does it play doom?
But each one is hand painted so that no two boxes are the same..........
By the way, I guessing they have already sold at least four of them, one for each of Michael's kids...
I'm still playing the Electronic Art's 10 Pack that cost me $10.00 on my Toshiba Portege... That cost me $100.00 $10K Cough... Cough... Maybe after I sell my Farrari
about the AMD option, i would like to remind you guys that dell(icious POS) has an EXCLUSIVE contract with intel, meaning that they will buy ONLY intel processors (and motherboards? i dunno), NOT AMD. so if u guys want a gaming PC with a paint job and the PhysX card and the paint job and an AMD processor, you'd just wanna go buy the parts yourself, go to some car-painting place (the plastic/metal is basically the same as in cars right?) have ur box painted, then assemble the PC and have money left over for that 50 inch plasma screen uve seen at the shop, and a whole s**tload of other stuff
Wow. I really can't believe some of the comments about this.
Dell is selling a pretty nice computer, and a pretty nice LCD, and it's really expensive.
If you can't buy it, shut the hell up, and save $7,000 by building your own rig. Don't be all, "OMG DELL r Teh SUX0rZZ cuz they're doing something different!!!~2"
If you've got $10,000 to spend on this machine, by all means, buy it. If you don't? Well. Stop yakking and get off this net.
Oh, and all of my computers run on Intel. (Go ahead, flame me. I guess I'm not a "HARDCORE COMPUTER ENTHUSIAST" because I also consider price when I'm making a system. Hands down, Intel is cheaper, with minimal performance loss. Hell, my Celeron D supports SSE2 and SSE3. That's plenty reason to buy it right there.)
I thought Dell was switching over to AMD in the near future....did I hear wrong?
beej, since when did Intel become cheaper than AMD?
"But, hey, there's always that paint job, right? That's gotta be worth something."
Actually, wether or not it's "worth something" to you, the paint job might be a pretty significant cost component for Dell. The artist who did it is called Mike Lavallee. He has been featured on numerous TV shows and magazines, and he's probably the most sought-after custom painter and airbrush artist working today.
http://www.killerpaint.com/
too bad it does not meet the hardware minimum requirements for Vista
Pentium 4 3.73ghz 1066 extreme -$1035
GIGABYTE GA-8N-SLI Quad Royal LGA775/nForce4 SLI/4x PCI-E x16 /2LAN Motherboard-$228.66
PC2-6400 DDR2-800 2GB - Patriot -- PDC22G6400LLK -- (2 pcs 1GB)-249.85
(4) PNY Verto GeForce 7900 GTX PCIe x16 GDDR3 512MB HDTV / -2047.96
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty 260.5
(2)Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB Serial ATA 10000RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer-$560
Western Digital - Caviar RE2 400GB Serial ATA Hard Disk Drive - 16MB -$184
DELL ULTRASHARP 3007WFP 30 LCD MONITOR 16:10 Wide Aspect LCD-$2084.25
Klipsch ProMedia ultra 5.1 Personal Audio $352.89
(2)PLEXTOR Black 16X DVD+R-$157.88
V1000A Super Tower Series Xaser -$156.00
Thermaltake AquariusII Liquid Cooling System(to handle overclocking)-239.98
Total= $7569.95
Giving Dell 2360.05 extra.. Priceless!
For everything else in life there is PRICEWATCH!
Dreem, Does that work 4X better linking 4 Ponies 7900? I think in my XPS 600 I only have room for 2 cards like NVIDIA 6800 unless I go to 2 dual 1 G 7950X2. Can Quad like that be done on a regular SLI Mobo or do you need a quad mobo?
TookyG
Intel Pentium D 920 800MHz FSB LGA 775 Dual Core - Retail
$254
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 1GHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor - Retail
$295
And guess what?
The Intel has 4X the amount of L2 cache and is 65nm.
dude, you're getting a dell!
Dude, you're going to Hell.
If you've got the money, why shouldn't you buy it?
- I certainly would.
there's always ford, honda and ferrari. if you can't afford ferrari.. dont bitch about people who has one. just get ford you lazy bum. it's their money, they sure can do whatever they want with it.
I want that Ageia PhysX PPU pci card though.
Have you "OMG I can build it cheaper" people bothered to consider that not everyone wants to build their own machine?
After seven years of doing so, I was tired of dealing with the trouble so when it came time for a machine, I totally cashed in on a dell coupon code and was able to get an XPS400 with the 24" LCD for just slightly more than a similar AMD machine I spec'd on new egg...
Here's the thing though:
1. Warranty
2. I didn't have to deal with building it
3. Warranty
That being said the XPS Ren is defeinitely pretty pricey. Watch though, I bet this'll lead to different and likely more affordable variations.
No, you can't build one of these yourself. Nvidia isn't putting quad-capable cards out for "do it yer selfers"...due to cooling and power considerations most can't do (correctly).
Only way to get a rig like this is to buy it. And who wouldn't want a factory supported gaming rig of this level?
#22
>Not everything on pricewatch is the value they post. Good luck getting a 965 for that price. It will cost you at least $300 more. The memory you spec'd is not low latency. Have fun getting it running with no power supply. You also failed to mention the couple hundred bucks worth of keyboard, mouse, external p/s's, and a custom paint job.
It seems to me that their price is on the level.
In all fairness, it is a REALLY good paint job...
sorry but S10k or not it's still a dell!
To #23: Ooo! Intel's crappy chip has more L2 Cache. Face the actual clockings and performance. That 3800+ performs better than the EE editions that run $600. I bought the X2 4400+ for $450, and it runs better than the crappy Intel EE that Dell is putting into that horrible machine.
Scrap the monitor and buy an HD LCD TV for half the cost and same inches. I think it's too early for Quad SLI. ASUS has only recently gotten true dual PCI-E X16. For about $220. Quad SLI at X4 will only run around the speed of the true dual PCI-E X16. For what, $1.5k more? Dell should give you more options. There's so many more better computer parts than what they buy. Oh, I also want to point out. In that $10k machine, Dell will probably be putting in a 400 or 500 watt power supply. Everybody that took A+ Hardware in college should know thats not enough for all that (even dual SLI 79000GTX's should be running a 550w at least).
"If you've got $10,000 to spend on this machine, by all means, buy it. If you don't?"
If I had $100,000 to blow on a computer I still wouldn't spend it on this Dell.
@ #23
NEWSFLASH:
What about the new mobo you have to buy everytime a new Intel processor comes out??? and what about the laggy DDR2 you have to get??
On AMD dualcore, guys who bough a 939 mobo over a year ago, can still use it!!!
Besides the fact that the 920+ gets overhauled by the 3800+ (@stock... and don't get started with the OC'ed results...)
I have a 3800+ running cool (note: COOL AS IN FRESH!) @ 2500Mhz which is faster than the 5x priced 4800+... (i know... half the cache)
you should be around computers a little more... and pay the electrical bill too! you'd think trice b4 arguing that Intel is cheaper (altough i note here that intel are GETTING cheapER and AMD is pricing their CPUs a little higher now...)
oh well...
~EinZteiN
PS: I'm a computer consultant in a computer store... i know what i'm talking about... from the inside!
that sick paint job must add atleast an extra 1 GHZ to the system's speed! roxorzzroxxorrz
Hmmm, 10k to blow on a pc... Should I get a Dell or give the guys at Voodoo a call... It would take me about a nanosecond to make that decision.
This is all about Dell positioning itself as the "premium" gaming rig brand.
Flames... those are sooo 1990.
It would be worth 10k if you could tell the guy what to paint!
Well... It's a fairly good bargain; quad gpus + all the goodies = 10 grand anywhere, a 4.26ghz oc looks pretty nice though (doesnt void the warranty either). If you like custom paint, 30 inch flat panel, or a physics processor Northwest does it too. Alienware is a little cheaper, but doesn't have all the goodies, just a lot of alien stuff (ie. alien klipsch, alien x-fi, alien cooling, etc.) Voodoo PC's got nice looking cases.
I hear only 23 companies will have quad gpus (no do it your selfers can even buy the technology yet)http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=3314&s=1 . They can be used on any dual x16 pci express mobos(ie. Asus A32N SLI Deluxe), but can't buy the cards themselves. Clocks for the gpus are between gt and gtx @ 500/600(that's 1200 DDR).
companies with quad gpu: ABS(US), Alienware(US), Atelco(Germany), Biohazrd(US), Cyberpower(US), Dell(US), Falcon Northwest(US), Hypersonic(US), Hyrican(Germany), iBuypower(US), Komplett(Sweden), Kraftway(Russia), LCDC(France), MCJ(Japan), Multirama(Greece), Overdrive PC(US), Polywell(US), Scan(UK), Synnex-Mitac(Australia), Thirdwave(Japan), Velocity Micro(US), Vicious PV(US), Voodoo(US).
So price wouldnt be a breaking point for me, it'd be performance. If you want AMD variants or other custom paint jobs or cases or speakers or monitors, go with the other guys, it's still about the same price give or take a few hundred maybe thousand. playing fear at max settings 2560x1600 resolution = drool. so if you want to be "exclusive" go ahead buy the "McLaren'esque" thing, but for me, i'm fine with my "corolla'ish" Sempron 2800+ /w 9800 pro that i've had since leaving college. i'll still pa pa pwn you on CSS. ;p
If you actually have $10,000, buy a real computer.
- 2.5GHz Quad-core PowerPC G5
- 8GB 533 DDR2 ECC SDRAM- 8x1GB
- 2x500GB Serial ATA - 7200rpm
- NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT 256 MB SDRAM
- Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel)
- AirPort Extreme + Bluetooth built-in
- 16x SuperDrive DL (DVD+R DL/DVDRW/CD-RW)
- Apple Keyboard & Mighty Mouse - U.S English
- Mac OS X - U.S. English
- Accessory kit
- AppleCare Protection Plan for Power Mac (w/or w/o Display) - Auto-enroll
$9671.00
Then again, that machine is suited for supercomputing and scientific analysis. Or you could get an extra 1.9 fps. Such a toss-up...
Yay a 30 inch monitor with extremely noticeable backlighting problems.
10K is cheaper than other offerings tho.
#29
ok ok ok, I was poking fun at 10 Grand on a Dell (factory supported box #27) It was intended as humor, Remember the MasterCard priceless commercials?
#26 & #27
No one is upset with the fact that some people have the money to purchase a 10K rig for gaming. However, those with that type of money for this MOST LIKELY will enjoy the build process. As any avid PC gaming pro will tell you, they will reformat and re-install the software and customize just about any other thing (hardware/software See POST #12)so they can get the ultimate performance for their needs.
-all-
Show me someone who drops 10K on a PC and doesnt price it themselves and Ill show you a fool!(a rich fool though ;-) )
Factory Support?
1 year warranty usually standard when you purchase the hardware.
Support? 1 year included (FROM DELL'S WEBSITE)
10Gs on a PC and your too cheap to pay a tech? (Mmmhmmm)
To #38 and Engadget: There seems to need a correction in place. The article is listing a Quad-SLI, not Quad-GPU. There is quite a big difference. I know about Quad-GPU's, but I think a lot of the comments about the price about 4 cards was meaning Quad-SLI (4 GFX cards, not 2, 4-GPU cards).
However, either or, still not worth it. Any SLI 7800GTX will clock almost (if not, the same) as the Quad-GPU's. F.E.A.R is the only game where you might notice 2-3 frames difference, all the rest are already running high.
I'm sorry, Black Guy, but it's over now. At least it's been confined to Apple Co.
hHAHAHAAHAHH that's a joke, right?
Yeah yeah yeah, but will it run OS X?
re:mac
to James:
tookyG asked 'since when did Intel become cheaper than AMD?'
And I answered.
No need to get all uppity.
And might I point out that at the high end, the newest DuoCore Intels DO INDEED outperform the top of the line AMD's. So call down buddy.
And to Dan, why oh why bring up a Mac in a blog about GAMING???
#46: To show that a supercomputer costs less than this Dell.
Alternatively, you could buy 3 Quad G5s and use fibre channel to make a wicked cluster.
Not to mention, you could buy the top of the line Alienware every year, with warranty and no-hassle, and still have cash to burn.
Or you can get a few more fps in F.E.A.R.
a deal is a joke... get the same thing... but in an alienware... plus having an AMD to boot... who would ever spend this much on a dell needs to be shot...
'supercomputer'?????
Geez.
Like I said, what does the powermac have to do with gaming?
Let's stay on topic.
'wicked cluster'????
What's sad is, those powermacs are already 'dated' tech.
As is this Dell.
As someone already said, if you know better, then don't buy the thing. It's a vanity product, get over it.
39:
Yes, because spending nearly $10k on a soon-to-be obsolete system is brilliant.
If it wasn't the most expensive it could be the ugliest Box of all times... oh wait, could it both? Stylish as a 'tuned' nascar car in the middle of a princess wedding. Come on.. who other than the sultan of brunei can be both so rich and have such a bad taste?
The Sultan of Brunei _does_ possess golden underwear, I shit you not.
When I get rich (next year of course) and I want to buy a fast gaming machine I might as well put it in a nice, elegant box. A giant mac mini maybe?
Spending 10k on a dell computer.....You have to be REALLY fucking dumb.
Well, the 4.26Ghz OC itself isn't that phenomenal. If you look at the recently released article on TomsHardware.com about the Pentium EE 3.73Ghz, they easily got 4.26Ghz by just raising the multiplier from 14x to 16x, using Intel's stock cooler.
Keep that in mind when calculating the net value of Dell's factory OC.
#49, try actually reading the post.
Cluster: a group of loosely coupled computers that work together closely so that in many respects it can be viewed as though it were a single computer.
"What's sad is, those powermacs are already 'dated' tech."
Actually, they're the fastest PowerPC chips to date.
gg thx newb
#49, try actually reading the post.
Cluster: a group of loosely coupled computers that work together closely so that in many respects it can be viewed as though it were a single computer.
"What's sad is, those powermacs are already 'dated' tech."
Actually, they're the fastest PowerPC chips to date.
gg thx newb
@ #54(Dan)
Eat your own words buddy: "try actually reading the post.". Which part of the "what a Mac has to do with gaming" that you dont understand? Matter of fact, all Mac fanboys crawl back to your hole.
@ #51 (Jacques)
"A giant mac mini maybe?"
WTF??? how can you fit "giant" and "mini" into the same question? A giant mini? WTF?? Gimme some of what you're smoking...
so all of you people touting alienware, the jokes on you...
I agree: those riggs are useless.
Why spend tons of money for a system that can barely surpass a 399$ XBox360 (with none of the best games)?
Performance gaming is on console nowadays. PC are now just for MMORPG (that use low graphic details for the massive tcp traffic they have to sustain anyway).
This is good after all. PC gaming is going to be about gameplay and good design, and not about top-notch 3d graphics vaporware anymore.
You mean like, Duke Nukem Forever?
Consoles are about taking away your freedom of hardware and testing screwy business models and total lack of expandability. Kind of like CDMA networks. Think about it.
#59... I mentioned it "to show that a supercomputer costs less than this Dell."
Whine all you want, the G5 is the fastest PowerPC-based computer in its class, hence a supercomputer by definition.
My original point, which had nothing to do with gaming, was that XPS 600 Renegade costs more than 3 top-of-the-line G5 machines.
Clearly, there is something wrong here when a cluster composed of 12 processing cores costs LESS than a gaming rig.
***#57 rather.
yes, but does it have a hemi?
Dan:
Dude, I know what a cluster is. We have three in our office.(Netware,Linux,Windows don't ask why, my boss is cluster crazy)
My point is.....
what does clustering have to do with GAMING!!!????
So WHAT you could buy 3 powermacs for the price of this one dell, and turn it into a 'wicked cluster'!!!!
Are you going to play UT on that cluster of yours????
And those powermacs are INDEED outdated.
Considering Intel has a working quad-core 65nm CPU waiting in the wings. With 45nm dual-core set for next year maybe.
And have also managed to fab at 32nm.
Yes DAN, those powermacs are dead in the water as soon as pro apps make the conversion to x86.
Now you can sit in the corner, and giggle like a little girl over your 'wicked cluster' if you want to. What that has to do with the topic of the blog.......we may never know.
Dan, if you think that 1 7800gt(not even GTX) in the Apple is only going to be 1fps slower than 4 7900's you know nothing about computers. Also, the fact that you think the Apple's 7200rpm drive will out-perform 2 Raptor's in raid 0 is laughable.
If we're going to look at workstations, Opteron's and Xeons have been faster than G5's for quite some time.
>>Yes DAN, those powermacs are dead in the water as soon as pro apps make >>the conversion to x86.
>>Now you can sit in the corner, and giggle like a little girl over your 'wicked >>cluster' if you want to. What that has to do with the topic of the blog.......we >>may never know.
Just because Apple switched doesn't mean PowerPC is dead. IBM continues to evolve its POWER architecture for large business, including Nintendo's next-gen console.
Why someone ever hired you, we may never know.
>>Dan, if you think that 1 7800gt(not even GTX) in the Apple is only going to >>be 1fps slower than 4 7900's you know nothing about computers. Also, the >>fact that you think the Apple's 7200rpm drive will out-perform 2 Raptor's in >>raid 0 is laughable."
1.9fps relative to another gaming PC. I was showing the contrast between scientific use and this overpriced Dell. I guess you didn't get it.
>>If we're going to look at workstations, Opteron's and Xeons have been faster >>than G5's for quite some time.
I said among PowerPC. I guess you are the one who knows nothing about computers. It's called RISC architecture, kid.
To Dan:
Everyone's point
You're head
I'll try to break it down for you a little simpler. This is a gaming PC. Calling it overpriced because some G5 can perform non-gaming tasks faster than it is irrelevant. It would be like saying a Corvette is overpriced because a minivan that costs less can fit 3 times more people, it's irrelevant. This rig is built to perform a certain task and that's it. The fact that Apple or Dell will sell you a workstation for cheaper is irrelevant.
If this is the same Dan from an OS comparison website I once knew, then don't waste your time with this guy!
The guy is so stupid, he compares OSX with XP even though he has no access to a Windows XP box!
In fact, another website has been created in mockery of his website. Seriously, that guy has no understand of what gaming or computers are all about.
If this is not the same "Dan", then he's still stupid because he's trying to compare a once "supercomputer" to a gaming rig that surpasses the benchmark that beat the G5s.
Its not 2004 anymore.
Okay so you guys complain about it being a dell. Ya wanna know something folks.. That system is one of the best systems that I have ever seen and considering the specs of the system it is worth the 10,000 that they are charging for the machine. This is a powerful machine and is absolutly gorgeous. OH and by the way Alienware is owned by Dell now so Dude get and alienware YOUR STILL Getting a dell. But the system is spectacular.... personally if i had the money i would most definately go and purchase it :D
1. I also said Alienware.
2. "Informer" huh? Maybe this is the guy I once knew at a forum whose webmaster's cousin was "Informer." Numbnuts.
3. G5 Quad came out near the END of 2005.
Until Dell posts the actual cost, I would hold the negative comments. My guess is they are doing the feeling-out process - negative as it should be to see how best to market the thing. I'm guessing it will be a bit cheaper to compete with Alineware and the rest.
To all the people that want to buy this gaming monstrosity and then "tweak it": Have you heard the phrase, "If it's not broke, don't fix it." Alienware obviously has their hand in this machine. If it had Alienware on it instead of Dell there would be two things different: one, you wouldn't care that it costs 10k; and two, you wouldn't want to "tweak it."
To Dan,
When did the G5 come out?
Right, so what year is it now?
Right again, is it worth buying one today?
Wrong, why?
You guessed it, Apple switched to Intel and can now run Windows rendering everything that Mac people bought last year as USELESS.
It is still a worthless choice for gaming despite the so-called "power". The Mac is soooo fast that it trumps the PC desktops in Doom3....as the slowest. Hell they have been working on OpenGL since Quake3 and still haven't got it right. Poor poor Apple. I guess the only thing they can brag is "the experience", ooooo!!!
Welcome to the club, the years of monopoly, thinking "different" to be the same, the $150 per year OS subscription and boring interfaces of yesterday will now be over for Mac users....iThink.
-FOUR POINT THREE SIX GIGAHERTZ
-QUAD SLI
-MICROSOFT XP PRO (WOOHOO Like I didn't have that already LOL)
-COOLING SYSTEM - ALMOST NONE
-and 2 gigs of ram
Err. I've got 3 gigs of ram clocked at a higher speed jeesh...
XPS Renegade is like one of those pimped out Honda Civics that can reach 190 MPH - but who cares? It's a CIVIC.
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Posted at 10:34AM on Mar 22nd 2006 by Revrant [ ! ]"
Way to go buddy you know that all high end gaming machines will now be using the new Intel Core 2 Duos, because they are amazing compared to anything that AMD has to offer. Way to eat your words.
Well, most of you are just fuckin' dumb.
But the dude that said "I work as a computer consultant... I know what I'm talking about."
Yep... that's why your sitting in some shitty computer shop complaining about Dell, while ol' Mike is at home getting blown by hot women wearing 100 dollar bill swimsuits and your still at home wackin' it to hardcorejunky.net
Hey.. I wax the seal to hardcore as well, just saying, don't try to cockblock him because your too lame to come up with an idea that appeals to the masses.
punk ass.
OMG Playing solitaire on this Dell would be the best!!!! I want one.
Are they serious about that processor? If it were a quad core Core2 overclocked to that speed it might actually be worth $10,000 just to have that part at that speed under warranty.