
At a press conference in London, Nintendo has officially announced that the Wii will launch in Europe on December 8 at a price of €249 and £179 in the UK. The official pricing is not quite in line with Nintendo's original claim that
the UK price would be similar to the US price -- Europeans will pay the equivalent of $315, with the UK price being priced at the equivalent of $336
. Australians hoping to pick up a Wii will have to pay slightly less than Europe when the console hits on December 7 at a price of $399AUS, or approximately $299US. The European console bundle will include a white Wii console, one Wii remote, one Nunchuck, Wii Sports, and games will be priced between €49 and €59 or between £34 and £39 in the UK -- which works out at around $62 to $73.
Read - Eurogamer's coverage
Read - IGN's coverage
an interesting story, especially since the games are region-free
who wants to bet that most europers and UKers will be buying games in the USA? i know i would
Europe is F'ed in the A as usual.
Stuck in the UK and hosed by Nintendo. Thanks Reggie.
Does anyone not piss off the UK gamers?
"an interesting story, especially since the games are region-free
who wants to bet that most europers and UKers will be buying games in the USA? i know i would"
And pay for international shipping?
lol
what you;'re all forgeting is that UK prices are always VAT inclusive, and the US prices are not.
walk into a store in the US and you will pay $250 + state tax, which is usually 16%.
of course, you can get around that easily in the US by ordering online, but that's not possible in the UK.
so we're not getting that bad a deal :)
I have a non-european comment. Does anyone have speculation about what the 2 "coming soon" bubbles are on the wii.com site?
"walk into a store in the US and you will pay $250 + state tax, which is usually 16%"
In Texas it's just under 8%. I dunno where YOU'RE shopping, but no matter how you slice it, the Wii is going to be at a premium price in the UK. The 360 is only 20 pounds more!
Guessing that the £179.99 includes VAT at 17.5%.
so to compare with the US price (which wont include any sales tax) it's approx £153 ~ $289 - still more but not as bad as $336!
I'm sure jersey.tesco, play etc will have the usual discounts on 'full' price games.
Aren't we getting the Nunchuk thrown in while the US are not (apparently it's $20 extra (plus tax) for this in the US) so there's a little more equality there. Doesn't look too bad a deal to me
It's OK, we're used to being ripped of in the UK. With many companies, it seems to be with a straight $1=£1 exchange rate.
sorry, i got my values wrong :)
whatever though, UK VAT is at 17.5%. so figure that into your calculations :)
does anyone know when the black wii will be released ?
Ours includes VAT, even so it's still a little over. But have you ever heard of a games console that wasn't more expensive over here (even including VAT)?
Actually, the Xbox 360 core is about 20 euros more. But unless you get the premium version, the 360 isn't worth it.
No, the US get a nunchuck thrown in too. You'd think Nintendo would give Europe a little something extra (another remote maybe? or what about the concert demo?), especially considering the amount we're paying.
@Herman & Arnette
Yeah, a whole 6 days later than Japan, that's really fucking terrible [/sarcasm]
£180 is too expensive for something that many people were looking to buy as a second console.
"walk into a store in the US and you will pay $250 + state tax, which is usually 16%."
Um... average state sales tax in the United States around 6% (and in Delaware there is no sales tax).
Thanks Reggie? Considering Reggie is the USA President and COO I really don't think he's to blame for inflated prices in Europe.
i dont want the white one
i only want the black one does anyone know when nintendo are going to bring that out, it better be soon
damn, that is about 2x what I was expecting it to cost. Why are they charging soo much? It doesn't have the insane processing power like the 360/ps3... No next gen disk drives... Seems like they could manufacture it for well under $200...
gotta get me self one of these babies...180..sweet!
"You'd think Nintendo would give Europe a little something extra"
You got the black DS months before we did. That didn't make you happy enough? :P
"walk into a store in the US and you will pay $250 + state tax, which is usually 16%."
Huh?
Admittedly we do pay tax extra, but nowhere in the US is sales tax anywhere close to 16%.
Various New York area counties have some of the highest sales taxes in the nation at around 8.65%.
In most areas, sales tax is ~5%. Some states (well, one or two) have no sales tax at all.
@ Arnette
Sales/Use Tax (a combination of state, county and city taxes) vary greatly by area. I thought 8.65% where I live sucked, I'm used to 4.5% where I lived back east. I feel bad you are stuck with 16%.
However, there's no reason to try and make Europeans and Brits feel better, it's cheaper for Americans, yay!
wow ... ok i feel better about my US pricing. Sorry euros ... want some KY with your Wii?
Why is it you guys always get raped on pricing?
it's a case of playing the waiting game. people who rush out and get the first ones hitting the pre-order shelves will be stung by the price, personally i will just wait til the price drops!
so approx prices;
UK £179 Dec 8th
US £153 Nov 19th
Aus £160 Dec 7th
Jpn £113 Dec 2nd
so if someone in the uk bought a Japanese console, paid £20 shipping (that's the shipping for a PS2 from Japan) and got done for import duty, they'd still save about a fiver!
Who the hell pays 16% sales tax? Are you talking about the fact that you're actually getting double-taxed by the gov't in that you're paying sales tax using post-tax dollars?
Anyway, fact of the matter is that the UK gets, as #1 so eloquently put it, F'ed in the A. Period.
There goes any chance of me expatriating.
wooot. dec 7 it is for us aussies then
399 aud is exactly how much i thought it would be actually, so im pretty pleased.
im not even really into games but the wii looks like fun, and i did like mario and the like back when i was younger (oh now that im 22 its all downhill :P )
sccchhplendid.
No alarms and no surprises. It'll join the rest of my imported 'tronics.
Posted at 9:16AM on Sep 15th 2006 by Nicholas Schaulsohn
'And pay for international shipping?
lol'
LOL,why not? with s&h cost its still cheaper than in most of European countries.
All my games for psp/ds are from videogameplus/ebay us.
For example:
29.05.2006 i have bought (on ebay.us) new&sealed daxter game for only $32+$10(ship via GPM) ,when here in Poland rp for this game = plz 179-189 (~$60,€47,L32)
--
videogameplus
Look@ the prices :)
I use videogamesplus a lot for my games, even with shipping from Canada it ends up being 5 to 15* pounds cheaper than buying off the high street
(*sale games)
Disgraceful. They are concentrating too much on their own profits, and less about their aims and beliefs - to bring an affordable console into everyone's lives. It's £20 than a Xbox360 Core over here, so that can't really be true. HD really isn't that great a difference for me, but I am seriously considering the 360 now as the games are actually CHEAPER than the release prices of Wii games over here, and I'll have Halo and Gears of War. How much has Nintendo let us down collectively? - far too much, on practically every detail. How much has Nintendo let down UK and Europe - they've abandoned us.
you guys, Nintendo isn't at fault with pricing in the UK, blame the damn government and the 17.5% VAT
PLUS it's going to rise to about 25% in the future.
That's why we're all poor, tax on food, tax on gadgets, tax on living, screw this.
I wouldn't be suprised if the Wii beats PS3 sales at this price.
Seriously, PS3 isn't that much better
Yeah, what's up with this? I thought the US price was too high, but then everyone else gets screwed even worse. I'm guessing it'll quickly go down. You know, sell a few high-priced units at launch due to all the buzz, then drop the price just in time for Christmas. Makes sense... I just hope they do it. I was very much looking forward to getting one on launch day, but... After games and a second controller and what not, I'm not so sure.
According to conversion rates, after taking of the 17.5% tax in europe, us europeans will be spending $277.34. Personally I think it would still be cheaper to import the console as most websites do ship free when you pay over a certain amount. Even after adding import tax it would still be cheaper.
The XBox 360 (not the core version) seems a little bit more worth it especially when Too Human comes out (whenever that is). Is the Wii too expensive? No. Is it over priced? Yes. But in the end I'll own it just because Nintendo tends to make some fantastic games.
Two things: 1) Engadget, please please please if you're going to convert UK prices to US take the VAT @ 17.5% off BEFORE you do the converstion. That way you get a true comparison between the two and stops the figures from looking so ridiculous.
2) @ Andy Briggs: No, the Wii is NOT £20 less than a 360 as the 360 core REQUIRES you to purchase at least one memory card and a game before being able to play, while the Wii is ready to go out of the box. That makes it, what, £70 at least? More if you actually want to play in Hi-Def as the core pack doesn't include the component cable as far as I know. As for release prices of the Wii games I'm almost certain that the current £49.99 listed by all the on-line stores were placeholders and will be replaced closer to launch with the £34 - £39 range that Nintendo announced today for first party titles. As for abondoning the UK... what utter rubbish. The price is far considering a) it's still the cheapest of the next gen consoles by a LONG way (yes, it's next gen, the R&D spend just went into the controller not the graphics) and b) it's a brand new console that will be experiencing high demand and, even at this price, will probably be in short supply. Don't forget the ONLY reason the PS3 and 360 are sold at a loss is that the demand for these consoles even at the production cost would be too low for either company to justify the investment.
Basically Nintendo delivered exactly what they promised, if they didn't live up to expectations created by wild speculation that's not their fault. They're making solid business decisions and still delivering a cheap next-gen console that promises a different experience from the rest of the market. If you don't want to pay the price they're asking then simply wait until it drops at some point after launch. That way you'll have a wider range of games to choose from, extra time to evaluate the console from real world users, possibly a choice of colours and a chance to compare it to the PS3 as well.
Me? I'll be adding one to the 360 if I can get a pre-order in early enough. It's a fair price, the package is a good one and the costs sound about right. The extra controller IS expensive but I don't have a need for one right away so that can wait for another day. Between Zelda, Gears of War and Guitar Hero 2 this is looking like a very good christmas.
Andy, you are a retard. Nintendo's goal is to make a PROFIT by selling a console at the most profitable price. They aren't in the industry of welfare and there is nothing disgraceful about running an honest business. If the 360 sounds like a better deal to you, then get a 360 and please shut up about it.
I like how the Europeans say they are getting screwed by Nintendo when it is more likely they are getting screwed by their own government's taxes, tariffs, and regulations. Don't blame your shitty government on Nintendo.
way too expensive to buy for us in the UK, but it really is an intresting console.
You cant really compare the Xbox360 core pack to the wii though. You have to factor in all the hidden costs. You cant go online with the 360 without the hard drive ...whereas You dont need one with the wii plus the wii online is free.
so.. premium pack + xbox LIVE = maybe 300 pounds compared to the wii's 180 pounds.
if the wiimote works this is gonna be nintendos comeback console for sure.
Thanks Dave, people just don't realize it. They can't compare dollars to donuts.
Yeah, sorry about that guys. Just a knee jerk reaction. Thanks for the info on the 360...that really does make me think. Probably the Wii is the leader for me, truly I can believe it now! I still stand by my comments saying it isnt so affordable. Think about it. I guess it's produced in Japan and China. Okay, so cheaper over there. But even still, adding the tax (and I think, Wii sports - correct me on that, but I think the Japs don't get in their package and cheaper price) and shipping costs I don't believe the eventual price should be QUITE so high. Hell, I'll still be buying it, don't get me wrong, but an extra £10+ would really be a great enticement and would really give Nintendo the foundations to get the strangle-hold on the market. I suppose in their ultimate wisdom, it was the best thing for the company, and all credit to them looking after #1. The price of the games I hope will come down in time as developing costs come down from the developers learning the new control system. I hoped (and prayed?) that the prices would be £35.99 RRP rather than £39.99, but I suppose it isn't a raise like for Xbox360 and PS3. On reflection, it's actually quite resonably priced, and a good alternative system to the HD (practically pointless HD) consoles, and I suppose Halo and Gears of War will always be a draw, yet Nintendo will always deliver for the innovative and 'intelligent' people. I apologise again, and I hope I haven't caused too much offence, and that this will be my redemption (it's like I'm pleading to a judge!).
Thanks, and all the best guys,
Andy
@Jason: i'd say that one of the things will be the announced instant messenging capability
till yesterday i wanted a wii, but now i'm just angry with nintendo, i wanted (thought it would come down to) wii + wiimote + nunchuk + DVD capability for 200€ but nintendo had other intentions, so i wont buy until prices drop to at least 200€ and DVD playback becomes available (i'm looking your way, firmware hackers)
YAY! We're getting Screwed again!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
No, seriously, we europeans are ALWAYS getting screwed over everything (consoles, PCs, videogames, even GAS (1.28€+ a liter here in france as i speak) for no real reason (S&H costs are no way near covering the price difference). When you guys in the US pay 100$, we pay 100€ (and the exchange rate hovers around 1.25$-->1€)
thanks for having wasted the last 12 seconds of your life reading this
lol, I had decided not to buy when I thought it was gonna be £150 and released on November 19th like in the US.
£180 on December 7th?
I'll get a higher specced MacBook instead mate.
gj Nintendo, you actually managed to turn the greatest come-back in gaming history into a PR disaster only slightly less catastrophic than Sony's.
Fucking morons.
"walk into a store in the US and you will pay $250 + state tax, which is usually 16%"
Wow where do you live? it's only 7.25% tax here in OK. That's just crazy. If you're correct, you're being screwed.
Why does everyone want the black Wii? It's just going to be much bigger than the white one.
"gj Nintendo, you actually managed to turn the greatest come-back in gaming history into a PR disaster only slightly less catastrophic than Sony's.
Fucking morons."
Overreact much?
Guys,check i.g.n. article: 'Wii Titles Region-Encoded' , wow now it sucks...