Intel launches six-core Xeon 7400, your bank account shudders
By Tim Stevens 
posted Sep 16th 2008 10:42AM
posted Sep 16th 2008 10:42AM
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Too expensive to buy..!!!!
your right
Hmm, I am trying to work out a way of getting my company to pay for this. I think its time for a new Graphics Workstation! I'm thinking 4 of these with 32GB of RAM and 5TB RAID 5? Just got to get it past my boss! Anyone know some good tutorials on forging signatures? ;-)
any chance of shoehorning these into a recent mac pro? :D
@devil666
You DO realize you're talking about a mac, right? You'll have to wait at least 8 months before it can go in a NEW mac pro. About a year later, they'll release their own version of this processor to work with the older mac pros like yours, but it will cost 30% more than fair market value.
(that is, if the 8800gt was any indication of how apple works :P)
does having more cores help with more simultaneous apps running?
All depends on the OS and if the programs you're running take advantage of it. In todays world not much but later on these things will kill anything out...
Yes, it will.
Yes it will. The OS is able to run each process at the same time by scheduling them to run on different processors.
But actually, the fact that Chrome and IE8 run each tab on a separate process doesn't change anything. The way it is done nowadays is giving each tab its own thread, which makes it just as parallelizable.
Only if the apps are actually doing something. If you have Word, Excel, FireFox etc open but just sitting there then they won't be utilizing much of any cores. Check your task manager, you'll notice that most programs don't use much CPU unless you're interacting with the program. Other apps like encoders etc will use tons of CPU while processing. The extra cores will certainly help in these cases and your UI will be much more snappy.
Well when you consider that the Xeon 7300 is still $1,000-$1300 the 7400 isn't all that bad considering the nearly 50% increase at a lower clock speed. Then again the 7300 was designed for 4-way servers, so the consumer price point comparison is kinda moot. I can't think of too many home users with a 4-way quad core desktop.
heh heh "4 way" heh heh
@ Platinum_Skeet @ Sep 16th 2008 2:33PM
"Intel used the "i" before apple did.. Check out their old processors..."
Damn it, it's just an "i."
Samuel, wtf are you babbling about?
I have a Tyan S4980 motherboard. That's four quad-core sockets on a single board. And is sits right behind me here in my living room.
Shingoshi
At $2729 you know it's built to power NASA computers.
Regardless, great news, because:
New processor >>> Quad-core gets cheaper >>> Xtreme gets cheaper >>> Maxed out Area51-x17 becomes more affordable.
Alienware=Overpriced...
Yeah, it is. Like the first iPhone, and the first iPod....etc
But it has the WOW factor. The illuminated keyboard, the skull shaped casing... the Alien logo... Engraved name on case....etc
And when you consider the m17x is the only laptop with Core-2-Extreme processor AND Dual 8800 GTX... it is unique. And it's in this distinguished individuality where the price tag rises.
TareX: don't kid yourself. It's an Alienware, it doesn't have a wow factor anymore. Your money is better spent elsewhere, say at Voodoo or Falcon-NW.
you lost me at the skull shaped casing. i hate the alienware cases. gimme a nzxt tempest or antec 900 anyday. honestly, if i ever bought an alienware tower, i would buy a case from newegg to throw the parts in. that being said, ill stick to my home built rig.
laptops a different story, but then again i dont use a laptop for gaming so the 2x 8800gtx doesnt interest me
Speaking of the iphone. Has Apple tried to file a copyright infringement against Intel for the use of the 'i' and the glossy effects in the logo?
Better yet get a Sager from someplace like http://www.pctorque.com/ It's the exact same machine as alienware without the fancy paint job and price markup.
Dude I'd seriously check out avadirect if I were you or just learn to DIY...
Intel used the "i" before apple did.. Check out their old processors...
Believe me I know all about Sager notebooks.
Sure you'll get:
- A Quad instead of an Extreme processor.
- Dual 9800M GTX instead of Dual 8800M GTX
- And you'll save around 300$
But the Sager notebooks have the worst exterior designs hands down. After a certain level of performance (Dual 8800mGTX SLI + Extreme processor), the outer components mean more to me. Sager could be a bit better on the inside, but it's a LOT uglier on the outside.
..... recalculated it.
You save $550 with Sager.... (and get a Quad, and dual 9800m GTX)... that's a lot of money.
Yeah when it comes to desktops I DIY my laptops I get through avadirect... Yeah alienwares cosmetic looks at time are sweet but I want the performance and price value over anything else...
at $2729 , not oriented at all.
They only have a few of these and obviously don't want to sell them.so yet another paper launch.The real product will show up in 6 moths.
Then I will ramp up the wattage of my outdoor light bulb to tempt one of these moths into my clutches.
OW! OOH! EECH! HOLY COW THAT'S EXPENSIVE!!! What the heck, Intel?! Even power users are only used to sub-$1000 processors.
^^^ Ditto. This man speaks sense. These processors have a legit (too legit to quit...it's hammer time!) purpose. Perhaps you gamers/hackers/code monkeys think it's over priced...but think of the scope of the computer world. It won't save you money to build a gaming rig with this. Or a media center. Or hell...even a small domain server for your business...but when you're dropping millions on your server infrastructure you save money where you can...and there's a lot of money to be saved when you work in those numbers.
dang....replied to the wrong post. I meant the dude below me. Cheers andrew.
I don't know what you're talking about pfromg. They're going to sell a boatload of these. Ever heard of server virtualization? Might want to read up on it. A four socket * 6 core server (24 cores total) and 256GB RAM could easily run 40:1 or 50:1 consolidation ratios under VMWare ESX 3.5.
Think about it this way. Say your company needs 200 servers. Would you want to buy 200 * $5000 servers for $1 million, or 5 * $40,000 servers for $200,000?
Now imagine your company needs 5000 windows servers, like mine does.
$2729 for a cpu.
This is what intel will do if AMD cant catch up again.
I was saying the same thing.....it have begun :( intel are once again jacking up its price due to lack of competition....AMD we need you!!!
...and these are absolutely not meant for use in your gaming desktop machine. Xeon chips are for servers and pro level workstations. If it doesn't have "Core" branding, it's not meant for playing Call of Duty.
Even if tough use the "it's for servers argument" it's way to expensive if you know quad cores are almost given away for free compared to this. Not one company is right in its mind to spend so much more for so little more...unless it's tax funded one muahahaha.
Thanks engadget for not being able to edit your comment.
sadly its weblos incs fault, so you're stuck with it
well, the xeon's never been a consumer chip has it? My understanding was that it was a high end workstation CPU
but still, holy shit
Can anyone say a 12 Core Mac Pro for North of $10,000
a 12 Core Mac Pro for North of $10,000
:D
Is this CPU built on new Nehalem platform or not? Are we going to see 6core i7 then? or maybe 7 core so it will be more confusing for customers ;) Core i7 7C 7400 with 2.7GHz...
You really need to study CPUs these days.
It is not a Nehalem. There will be 6 and 8 core i7s.
How long until they start putting these in dual processor boards? Dodeca-Core Mac Pro anyone? Just in time for Snow Leopard and CS 4.
Are they going to call the desktop version of this the Core 2 Sex?
What's a bank account?
time to use that off-shore account
Hum! isn't a Skulltrail and 2 quads cheaper?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?ISList=13-121-330-S01%2c13-121-330-S02%2c13-121-330-S03%2c13-121-330-S04%2c13-121-330-S05&S7ImageFlag=1&Item=N82E16813121330&Depa=0&WaterMark=1&Description=Intel%20BOXD5400XS%20D5400XS%20Extended%20ATX%20Motherboard%20-%20Retail
and faster (8 cores)?
Since everyone here seems to be getting confused, here's some info on this cpu:
This is a socket 604 cpu, NOT 775 (which is the standard intel socket for consumer cpu's) or 771 (standard 2way intel server cpu's) which means it will work in 4 cpu motherboards ONLY. This is NOT a desktop cpu and will never ever be in a consumer desktop. Ever.
To everyone who is complaining about the price, please take note that this isn't for your average joe, its only designed for companies that need a massive amount of computing power in a single server. For the rest of us, go get a skulltrail setup and be happy, you will never see this cpu outside of a datacenter.
What happened to Moore's Law? I was expecting an 8 core to be next, not 6...
What does this have to do with Moore's Law?
12 core Mac Pro anyone?
Pffff just goes to show the difference between a blog written by amateurs and real tech sites. Misinforming the public by complaining this CPU is expensive for consumers just proves the ignorance behind people who write at Engadget and other blogs. If instead of regurgitating the press release your writters actually did some work, a little trip to Intel.com would show you this is NOT a consumer CPU. As someone pointed out before, these CPUs don't even use the same socket as consumer oriented products. Not only that, the Xeon brand has been used for the longest time (probably before many writters here knew what a CPU was) to refer to Intel's server products. The price is high, just like any Intel or AMD CPUs for this market (hint: check the prices on 8-way Phenom CPUs to see it is no a problem with this specific chip). So Engadget writters if you really want to be respected as an information authority, at least check your information before posting, if not you are no better than the average amateur poster from the Web 2.0 era.
Uhh, dude, it says "not exactly consumer-oriented" right there in the post.
web-browsing on a single-core is clearly so 2003 and totally unbearably slow!
6 Core Chip will make a great computer. Hosting servers will charge more money if they decide to use these processors.
http://www.ecompuplus.com
WHAT!!! 6 CORES!! I just got my freaking 4 Core Chip and now they release a SIX core!
$#%@^%#!!!!!
sounds nice im buying it