2G iPod touch to have Bluetooth capability unlocked by iPhone OS 3.0
By Nilay Patel 
posted Mar 17th 2009 2:57PM
posted Mar 17th 2009 2:57PM
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This is bluetooth transfer to other device of a non-iPhone/iPod Touch nature , right?
Ha ha ha.
Oh wait, you were serious?
HAHAHAHAHA!
Yes, he said it would work to control and be controlled by other bluetooth devices (like a bluetooth headset or speaker), not sure about file transfers though.
The bluetooth transfer can only happen between two certified iPhone 3.0 (certification is a 50 dollar fee) in an apple certified room. These "Apple transfer rooms" will be located in major cities. To transfer information, 2 people need to walk in in the apple-certified room, give blood samples to verify that the user is a registered apple owner of the certified apple device. Then they can transfer up to 3kb of information, which cannot be anything but a text file. Needless to say, you can't transfer without any mobile signal, because the data is simultaneously sent to the cloud to be checked for any apple binaries or any other licensed code in the apple library.
Oh. I see.
That sound you hear is the sound of the infant Jesus crying his tiny eyes out.
Engadget labeled this article "BREAKING!"
How appropriate... yea, these features are Breaking the bank...
Breaking the bank? Please! You've probably spent more than $10 buying useless fart apps!
Will this allow my to link up with my bluetooth GPS puck on google maps..............GAWD i would be in heaven if it did
The money is ok I guess for the 1st Gen touch (which I have), I bought what I bought like many are saying but do I get it right that 2 Gen touch owners need to pay to unlock a hardware feature on their device, not good. If it's built into the device as hardware that's bad, I remember car manufacturers getting taken to court and losing a few years ago over the very similar scam with some hardware thing (I think it was on board computers locking out non dealer mechanics). The ruling was that the manufacturer has no right to block any piece of the hardware for their own exclusive gain. This would not apply to the iPhone because of the contract but the iPod touch is different.
@ProfessorDex
Strangely I upgraded the OS on my ATT Tilt twice, from 5.0 to 6.0 and 6.0 to 6.1 and it didn't cost me a dime. Also of interesting note, IF I wanted to install a fart app it probably wouldn't cost anything either nor would I have to get it straight from HTC or ATT for a nominal fee.
I'm really surprised Apples upgrade offerings haven't been put under new marketing product called iNickelnDime.
@kal326
Congratulations pumpkin! Would you like a medal or a chest to pin it on?
Seriously, no one is forcing you to pay for the upgrade so it's really simple, you want to be cheap and not spend the money, don't.......but then please don't whine and moan that device X can be upgraded for free through so and so.
so $9.95 to unlock a piece of kit you already paid for.
..."a piece of kit" you already paid for and apparently thought was worth the money at the time. How, exactly, is this a problem? Unless you want to admit that it's schoolyard foolishness: "but, but, but...HE got it for free, why can't I?"
@kal326: "Strangely I upgraded the OS on my ATT Tilt twice, from 5.0 to 6.0 and 6.0 to 6.1 and it didn't cost me a dime."
The AT&T Tilt was released as AT&T's first Windows Mobile 6 device. It was never available with Windows Mobile 5. After the initial launch of the Tilt, HTC released an updated ROM which included some improvements, but it was still Windows Mobile 6. They later released (last August?) another ROM update which upgraded the device from Windows Mobile 6.0 to Windows Mobile 6.1.
One word... GeoPort.
In case you hadn't noticed: it's about the software stupid! Software doesn't write itself. if you can't afford it, then I suggest you get off your fat zune tattoed ass and start using the Nike+ to get fit, get enough energy, and get A JOB!
Apple is notorious for taking existing hardware, not cutting edge hardware, and writing good code to make it fly. Why do you think vista Areo requires the latest GC to do what a shitty mac mini does with it's window manager? Because with M$ your lining a lazy software writer and hardware makers pockets. if you want the latest hardware that's buggy and implemented like crap, hacked, possibly free third party software, stick to WinMo, but if you want something works and works really damn well and cool, then you have to pay for it. Period.
Steve jobs looks much better in that picture. :)
@Pauskin
Maybe I was thinking of an upgrade on my 8125.
@dyanisis
Why not worked with the white iMacs for wireless N unless you upgraded to Leopard. $1.95 or something like that to "unlock" aka provide the updated driver for it on Tiger.
Davel:
Sarbanes-Oxley is all well and good as an arguement, but Apple is citing it for the wrong reasons:
Wireless N: The wireless (or Airport Extreme) card in the Macbooks was already capable of N-Draft, and it was only a software update that prevented it from being used. It's not false advertising, and Apple is just trying to get some extra money
Bluetooth on the Touch: Same thing, it is already being used (paring with the Nike+ whatever you want to call it), it's only updating the firmware to enable some extra features that use the chip.
@steveorevo
You just murdered the English language. Congratulations. (yes i know this isn't twitter)
I think some of us (Apple Phanbouys) are missing the point. For the record I don't own an iPhone, but if I did I wouldn't want to pay for software to use the hardware that I already paid for. That's like buying a laptop with bluetooth capabilities but not being able to use it until you buy drivers for it, or like buying a car with bluetooth capabilities but you have to buy a dongle to use it, or like buying a phone with.....
I sure hope the bluetooth capability covers the use of any Bluetooth GPS module to navigate the maps
Can someone please tell me why apple is so stubborn about this bluetooth issue? what is the big deal? at the very least this feature facilitates all kinds of cool stuff that will only increase the popularity of the device. I want to tether the unit to a 3G mobile device. and I would like to use an external keyboard, etc.
Have i missed something? Is this some machiavellian plot to force me to buy an Iphone so I can surf at high speeds away from the already ubiquitous wifi...
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Id like some to tell me why apple is so uptight about bluetooth particlarly in the ipod.
is the internt to keep me from using my 3g phone to attach to the internet when away from hot spots??
are they trying to FORCE be to buy an I phone??
and I loved using external keyboards with my palms back in the day...
am I the only one that finds these threads a little difficult to follw... anyway, would someone pls tell me wht apple is so stubborn about enabling its products with bluetooth?
are they trying to force me to buy an I phone inorder to surf when I am out of range of a wifi signal??
and I would love to use and exeternal keyboard. I quit carrying around laptops as comminuication devices a long time ago...
Easier to swallow? You shouldn't have to pay for it, period. This is stuff that should have been there from day one.
amen
i think this is the only comment* i dually agree with you =]
*by you that is =]
If you were happy to buy the device without these features then you cannot claim they should have been there from the start - its called progress and you have the choice of whether the extra features are worth it for you.
I just recently switched from iPhone to iPod Touch so i'm not thrilled to be spending $10 but if it gets me A2DP which I didn't think was even possible then I will be happy with the purchase.
It has been there since day one. Apple is just now giving you the pleasure to pay to unlock it.
Oh yea, total bullshit.
Agreed. I'll wait for a hacked update to come out just like I did with the last one.
Paying for every new piece of shit seems to be the new revolutionary model...
-Would you like to buy a virtual hat for your virtual dog? $0.99
Would you like to buy a gun for your firefight? $0.99
WTF man!
@iGoon#2:
Have you ever heard of "not buying"? You know, that's actually your right. You don't have to pay for anything... you don't get it, mind you... I know, it's a revolutionary concept that Apple invented a few thousand years ago.
Now stop complaining, and let other people spend their hard-earned cash on a virtual dog shirt.
"should" ..... This is Apple we're talking about. Were you serious when you said "should?" "Could, for a price" sounds more realistic.
@snife
Are you serious? Should M$ charge for each SP? Should Apple charge for 10.5.2, 10.5.3, 10.5.4, etc? Software and hardware vendors regularly release FREE updates that make existing hardware and software better, more useful and more stable.
I agree 100% with iLoveApple, 2.0 and 3.0 should be FREE upgrades since they are relatively minor tweeks/upgrades and not full-blown OS overhauls (like XP->Vista or 10.4->10.5).
@ Bondsbw
STFU!
How would you like to browse a "free" web site only to be hit with a pop-up every 10 seconds asking you to buy something and you have to say NO just to continue?!
Those "free" apps are going to have nothing but adds in them...
Remember the HORROR of shareware?
"Would you like to take a moment to register me?"
"Would you like to take a moment to register me?"
"Would you like to take a moment to register me?"
"Would you like to take a moment to register me?"
"Would you like to take a moment to register me?"
"Would you like to take a moment to register me?"
Yeah, Everything should be free once you buy something from a company. I mean, it just makes sense!
By phrasing it as "unlocking" the bluetooth, Apple is essentially tricking you into paying for a bluetooth driver for the Touch.
Thinking about the virtual dog... Perhaps they give you the virtual dog crap free, but you have to pay $.99 for a virtual baggie, and if you don't scoop the virtual grass, well, there's a virtual fine.
@Damo
Service Packs are different - they contain some new setup features but its mostly fixes for problems. To me Windows 7 just seems like the way Vista should have been and they are going to charge for that - the point is that I purchased Vista knowing what it did, I cannot complain that it didn't have features I wanted but it never claimed to have, however, i'm not a big fan of comparing everything with Microsoft.
The point is OS 3.0 has new features - you have the choice if you want them, you have the choice of whether they are worth $10 to you and if paying means that development of the OS proceeds at a faster pace then its worth it to me. To me, its like complaining that you have to buy a solitaire app for the iPhone because you really want Solitaire, you could argue it should have had it from the start, but it didn't so you have the choice to buy it if you want; its the same with the new features in OS 3.0.
@iGoon#2: "How would you like to browse a "free" web site only to be hit with a pop-up every 10 seconds asking you to buy something and you have to say NO just to continue?!
"Those "free" apps are going to have nothing but adds in them..."
What on earth have you been smoking? For starters, I'm pretty certain I read that these in-app purchases won't apply to free apps. Second, why are you planning to buy free apps that pester you every ten seconds? It's entirely possible to not install them.
@iLoveApple
If you look at all the updates coming with 3.0, its amazing how many of them should have been in the original iPhone 1.0. MMS, copy & paste, Bluetooth transferring, voice memos, etc. Apple's philosophy is that they limit what features a product has, then release them later on for a "nominal fee."
An operating system is different. When you buy Mac OS X or Windows 7, the product you buy will always have those features. The iPhone OS is a constant refresh in what features are on it. And the whole Bluetooth hardware unlocking thing, psh, Apple knew from the gecko that they were going to unlock it later on.
In today's market, its all about money and profit. Apple charges a cost, thus, it trickles down to the consumers. Welcome to 2009.
It may be that Apple is legally required to charge you to enable the iPod Touch's Bluetooth features.
Google "Sarbanes-Oxley ipod touch".
Dell does it with their PowerEdge servers. They are all RAID ready on the motherboard, and if you need RAID after not getting it, they ship you a 2c plastic "dongle" that goes onto the motherboard to "enable" it.
Would anyone be happy if copy/paste was $10 to 'unlock'?
"This is stuff that should have been there from day one."
Let's see if the Redmond trolls scream about having to pay for Windows 7 from Vista to get, you know, stuff that should have been there from day one.
My bet: no, they won't. Because only Apple is capable of raising their ire.
@Quix: Bullshit! I won't be paying for Win7 exactly because of that. As decent of an OS it finally is, most of the stuff in it should've been done in Vista, which I didn't buy actually so I wouldn't even be paying "twice" for this stuff, but I still won't be paying for Win7. I understand why people are praising Win7, and at the same time I'm amazed at the number of people who forget that the only reason Win7 looks good is because Vista for such a POS. And now on too Apple...
Fucking bullshit! You know what? I could understand paying for some of this stuff - the new pay features, push, modular maps. But copy-paste!... Took them 2 years to come up with those gestures?! Bullshit! They delayed it because of security issues? Bullshit! And bluetooth - I'm suppose to pay Apple to uncripple their hardware, for which I already payed!?! How would you like it if car manufacturers demanded extra pay to activate the Tachometer?
Moreover, I could swallow these $10 bucks a bit easier if it was required of iPhone users as well. But shafting ipod touch users just 'cause they didn't want to doll out a thousand or more dollars for a two year contract - that's messed up. Apple makes enough money on those devices as it is. Heck, given the current economy they could've called it their way of contributing to consumer confidence and spending. That would've earned them a lot of good will that they lost thanks to their shenanigans over the past several months (at least). But of course it's Apple, they couldn't give a rat's ass about their customers.
Despite many great features of ipod touch I'm starting to regret buying it. I just hate the thought of giving money to Apple.
The way I look at it is that at least you don't have to buy a new iPod Touch to get the bluetooth features - they could easily have released the iPod Touch G3 with bluetooth and not unlocked the G2 and nobody would have been any the wiser.
Let the tethering commence?
Tethering what? It is an ipod touch, not the phone. The phone can bridge the cellular connection to the wifi and act as a wifi hotspot but what would be the point of tethering something to a touch? Anyway, the tethering apps have all been banned so (once again) you need to hack your Apple device to get it to do something other devices have been doing for years.
neodorian,
The idea is to tether the touch to a phone(with bluetooth) to get internet on the touch. You have it backwards.
50 bucks on the impossibility of that for each one you bet on a yes. I'll cover it up to the cost of iPod Touch plus the 10 USD of the "upgrade"
i have been able to tether my ipod touch since it came out.. with my sprint Mogul. hell iv tethered my laptop to my phone for a moneth straight with no problems .
its called WMWIFIROUTER..this is nothing new. if ur phone has wifi then tether away. i guess if u must use BT then this will come in handy.. But screw you APPLE. ill be waiting for the hack to upgrade to all the features thats been out for years on other devices.
Neeko:
That'll work if you're carrying around a WinMob device. Personally, I'd rather not let one of those anywhere near my pocket. Not to mention the severe impact on battery life that WiFi tethering has. Also, BT is present on almost every dumbphone released since God-knows-when.
Tethering would be by far the most useful application of bluetooth on the ipod touch. I wonder if GPS info from the phone could be used for location-based apps as well?
Oh yay. People with iPod Touches get to pay for yet another upgrade that should be free.
This comes up way too often.
Look... Apple didn't have this feature in the original spec. People bought the devices without the feature. According to accounting rules, Apple is forced to charge for adding features to a non-subscription device. Besides, Apple probably wants to charge to recoup development costs--features don't make themselves.
The iPhone is a subscription device. Apple makes money per month from carriers. The iPod Touch doesn't make money per month, so Apple is obligated to put a price on their updates. From what I understand, the price can be any amount, so Apple did pick the $10 amount.
They didn't exactly give away ilife 09 for free just because you already owned a mac an already had ilife 08. It's an upgrade, it costs money, that's how things work.
What really makes me mad is that I live in Portugal where the iPhone can be bought at full price without the obligation to pay a monthly fee. But iPhone users here in Europe still get the updates for free.
Us Touch users need to pay for it regardless of the country we live in.
@bondsbw
Yes they did. All bluetooth funcionality was available in the original hardware. Apple just locked it down so you couldn't use it. So you're paying to use the hardware that you already payed for. This is no different than Apple charging you to use the the 802.11g capabilities of the old iMac.
Somehow Microsoft let you upgrade to the ability to sync your Zune wirelessly for free.
I agree with bondsbw and Justin Paulson... Apple never said that A2DP was a feature in the iPod touch and people still bought it why would they give the feature for free... Apple is a business and they want to make money, thats the end of it.
@bondsbw
Sorry, but no. This is not a situation where tricky accounting rules "forced" Apple to charge. Not even close. There is no rule in accounting that you can't give away freeware, and there is CERTAINLY no rule that you have to charge for a new feature. There is no GAAP standard that elicits special provisions for subscription-supported vs. non-subscription portable devices. That excuse was made up, and a few websites ran with it. Most of them called bullshit.
What Apple is trying to hide behind is a SarbOx requirement that you may not recognize revenue until a product ships as feature-complete. However, if the features as described on the side of the box all exist when the product is sold, you may recognize revenue. There is not some special provision here for Apple, these rules apply across all
Take the Zune: they added massive new features to it since it's inception. They've given it the ability to purchase songs you hear on the radio, buy songs and sync your library via WiFi, etc. Never had to pay for that...
Take the WM6.1 upgrade: provided free through carriers, it added quite a bit of functionality (per-contact call logs, threaded chat, OS-level GPS support). Not a dime changed hands there either!
So either Microsoft, with a legal and accounting department bigger than all of Apple, is wildly incorrect in this and is committing massive accounting errors every time they roll out a product update on something that is not a subscription product (ie ALL OF THEIR PRODUCTS), or Apple lied to you, and you believed it because they waved their hands around and said "accounting".
@Brad You are totally leaving out the fact that all the iphone owners get all of this for free and always have, yet you make a comparison to winmob and say that 6.1 was free from all carriers which isnt actually true, what about 6.5 is that free? Oh no i forgot 6.5 WONT EVEN RUN on your 6.1 phone.
If you really want to get down to the brass tacks on the subject look at intel, they sell you a 2.66 C2D processor, your buying a processor that could do more but intel limits it to 2.66, you can go and overclock it, so does that mean they are ripping you off, i mean the functionality is there to make it a 3.8ghz C2D and they sold it to you as a 2.66, the fucking pikey bastards.
Of course we can look at it like most other phone companies do which would end up with you buying a whole new device everytime one of these updates comes around. I mean i had a RAZR for 3.5 years and not one time was there an update offered to me by motorola, and if there was you can bet your sweet ass it didn’t have new features or anything new other than fixes to what they managed to fuck up to start with.
To me it’s a decent deal getting a whole slew of new features for 9.99, fortunately i have an iphone so it will be free.
@dillinger - the problem with your comparison is that Intel sells the chip as what it can run at stably with stock cooling. They don't then charge you 10 bucks in order for you to overclock it. You can do that for free. They don't sell you the 2.6 ghz chip and then say, well, if you pay us another 50 bucks it'll run at 3.0 ghz!
Have any of you financial wizards taken note of Apple's stock price today?
@Dillinger
"You are totally leaving out the fact that all the iphone owners get all of this for free and always have..."
Actually, I was very much taking that INTO account. My point wasn't "should they" or "can they" - Apple can do whatever it damn well feels like within the constraints of the law. If they want to make you pay $100 every year to keep your iPod running, that's all well and good as long as they tell you up front.
The entire purpose of my post was to point out that it is not the result of Accounting Rules and Federal Statute that they HAVE to charge for it. @bondsbw repeated a claim that they were "forced" to charge as a result of the way they account for sales on feature-complete devices. That is simply not the case. It IS something that Apple said way back when they first tried charging for feature upgrades, in the case of the Wireless-N stack upgrade.
Whether or not I can upgrade to WM6.5 is as absurd and unrelated as saying "yeah, well I can't upgrade my keyboard to include more keys." It doesn't matter, it's off-topic. My point was showing two devices in similar categories (WM6->6.1 vs iPhone, Zune vs iPod), both of which received substantial, material feature upgrades, and neither of which were charged for. It was a counter-example, not a "someone else does it, they SHOULD too".
Apple can charge whatever they like for whatever they sell. They're selling software - in the form of a firmware patch - and giving it away to other customers. My point is (and it bears repeating): they were not FORCED to, they CHOSE to. Whether or not that has merit is up to you. I don't particularly care.
Bah, my 1G Touch is getting even more expensive ($20, $10, now another $10) with only few additional features. No phone, so MMS is useless. No bluetooth, so A2DP is useless. I guess I'll wait for 3G Touch. =)
Yeah it's called the iPhone.
If you have the 1st Gen Touch (like me) wait 'if you can', Ha, ha me wait i just know that isn't going to happen.
Listen we bought the 1st Gen touch, we are in a nice position for this Christmas, it might be time to have an iPod Christmas again, I like that type of Christmas. On the other hand this SDK thing is making me a bit edgy with my wish list for the 'touch 3Gen'. I was hoping for a bit more than just sodin bluetooth chip (god how many years has that been out). A nice new 300ppi HD 4ich diagonal screen and all kinds of mad gesture navigation and force detection, which isn’t going to happen just yet (well maybe the screen but everything will need up scaling to render properly).
I wouldn’t hold your breath for a revolution at any point soon with the iPhone or the touch, we’ll get a case redesign, more memory and some Voice Over tripe. I do look at my touch some days and just think ‘it’s a little sad just tapping on a sheet of glass’ and it is, I can feel boredom taking me with the whole touch thing, I yearn for dials and buttons and things that don’t keep changing. I bought a Canon G10 camera early in the year and the buttons and metal dials feel and look sweet.
No, cause I have a 1st gen Touch.
What's next? Unpeel the back of iPod Touch's case that turn out to be camera?!?1
Here we go again, $9.95 more for the 2nd-class iPod Touch owner. Last time we were fleeced for this, the Apple accountants explained that the additional cost had not been passed on to 'Touch owners, so they had to be charged retrospectively. Well, maybe, but few were convinced. So what's the excuse now? It can't be the same one, else iPhone owners should be also charged for the development costs, or they've already been charged in their initial purchase price, buy they received nothing for it, until now? And, if development costs are already factored into current iPhone costs, *how much* development - will the hidden fee ever be exhausted?
You mean, "retroactively".
When u buy a 1997 honda, u dont get the hybrid engine upgrade for free in the year 2007...
@paezbak -
Sorry, but that analogy makes about as much sense as garlic flavored Altoids.
When you buy a 1997 honda, it doesn't already have the extra HP and hybrid technology in the engine, and all that's required to unlock it is flipping a switch to turn it on.
No, but if you bought a 2001 VW with a 1.8T it was 150hp. In 2002 it was 180hp. The only difference was software for fueling and more boost. Should all the 150hp buyers get the upgrade for free? NO! They were satisfied with the 150hp on the spec sheet when they bought it. They didn't buy it and go 'gee, I hope VW gives me more HP for free some day...'.
Actually - this is directed @ paezbak :
While that is true - you can't buy something old, like a 97 honda and expect to have the new features of the latest one - you don't have a hybrid engine already developed and sitting in the 1997 Honda - and just waiting for Honda to say its ok for you to use it. You already paid for the 97 Honda and everything that came in it. Shouldn't you, as the owner, have access to whatever you want inside that car you paid for? How would you feel if, 10 years later, Honda said "Surprise! We had a hybrid engine in your car all along - we just thought we'd dick around and not let you use it for 10 years until we thought it was ok to bring it out! -- Now, if you want to use something you already own - you must pay us 10,000 dollars."
Bluetooth isn't software buddy. Its hardware. And if its INSIDE the machine already - it shouldn't need Apple's blessing and 10 more dollars to make it work. Its there - its ready - Apple just decided they didn't want to give it to you when you bought it.
So, while your analogy is clever -- its wrong and totally inaccurate.
I understand the idea that - you bought it with these features - lump it or leave it. For 10 bucks more you add a lot more functionality.
The fact is its a sleazy way to do business. To specifically criple a device that they know will be in demand and then charge more for the device for equipment that it already has to make it functional.
Can't the firmware just be downloaded for free and installed anyway? Or is there some special unlocking ability to which the $10 is needed?
No, that's what I did for 2.0, I ain't paying shit
Call me crazy but i could have sworn most companies give away software patches. Why in the hell would I want to pay for the company to fix the problems that they created in the first place...
yeah, when you upgraded from windows 2000 to xp, it was free... xp to vista was free... vista to windows 7, oh yeah that'll be free??
Winmo 5 to 6, oh yeah that's a free upgrade....
Wimo 6.1 to 6.5 ohh wait you have to buy a new phone....
@xxburt0nxx
win2000,xp,vista,7 are all DIFFERENT products.
but if they were same products, such as:
service packs 1 and 2 were free for xp
servicepacks 1 and 2 for vista will also be free
samsung P2 didnt come with blouetooth connectivity to phone, but they kept updating the software - till they even had blue tooth multiplayer games.
why must ipod touch owners pay for updates in software?
this is a no go for me
might as well as wait for a jailbreak that lets me have these for FREE
No way hosay!
I'm putting my 9.95 towards savings for a Pre.
These features should have been in there from the start on!
I am NOT going to pay so I can pay even more for the apps required to make use of the features. (Apple knows the platform is what drives sales in the app-store. So make the update free and i might spend some dollars in the app-store. Make it 9.95 and i'll spent it on a Pre.)
You are an idiot! You are talking about the iTouch which is NOT a phone and the Pre which IS a phone.
The 9.99 is just for the iTouch!
What? "Should have been there from the start?" When you bought your touch, how many other media players had bluetooth connectivity for gaming, etc.? Did you buy it for that feature? No.
Back when iPods were iPods, big new features were never added through software updates. You got nothing. No option. Here, you're getting the option. If you don't like the price; don't pay it, Apple isn't shafting you. You still have the same player you bought for the same money you paid for it.
If you're one of those people who gets jealous and has to have the latest and greatest then you can pay for it; you're paying the software engineers' wages.
Don't complain that the new version has all these features, as we move towards software (rather than hardware) differentiating products, of course the newer versions are going to get the new software. Just be grateful you're getting the option to catch up at all, rather than having to buy an altogether new device to get those features.
Geez, what a sense of entitlement.
I'm really excited about the Pre, but good luck getting as many software updates (which are, by the way, free on the iPhone, y'know, if you'd bought that instead) from their comparatively smaller dev team.
@-Ed: What the hell is an iTouch??
@cbw87: what about push? wasn't that promised from the start on? now i have to pay extra for it. WT^?!
And yes...lots of other features like bluetooth-peer-to-peer i really don't need. So i don't want to pay for it.
I want my push-functionality like promised without paying any extra's
That one I'll give you as they did sort of promise that. Which sucks.
@Paul
People like you don't seem to understand - even when the information is right in front of them - that the ~$10 charge is for the iPod Touch ONLY... 3.0 software will be free for the iPhone.
@Pina
People like you don't seem to understand - even when the information is right in front of them - where am I talking about an iPhone?
@Paul
Okay then maybe you know better than I do, what good are push notifications on an iPod Touch?
I wonder if this will work with their Keynote Remote app. Thats one of the reasons i got a touch, however being in a secured corporate network environment, I cant get the touch on the network. Would be the hotness...
If you are using a your personal computer hooked up to a projector, you can create an adhoc network so that the touch can connect directly and utilize keynote remote.
ooh i wonder if that means a ps3 remote app is possible now, since it uses bluetooth :o
ooooo, good one. A PS3 app that is a controller and a keyboard. Sony here is you chance...
Oh heck yeah. BT support alone is good enough, but that would be sweet. I think the $10 is well worth it.
Stop whining you cheap-skates. This is great stuff and well worth the $9.95 upgrade fee. If it's not worth the ten bucks to you, don't download it, plain and simple. Or if you're so inclined, go this route instead: Zune.