PlayStation 3 Slim review
Even before Sony's big unveil earlier this month at Cologne GamesCom, it felt like we already knew the PlayStation 3 Slim quite intimately. A leak from back in May gave us a glimpse of every angle of the hardware's exterior, and even the final retail box. At that point, we didn't know what to make of it, and the change in logo font definitely threw us off. Three months, thirty seconds of video, and a dash of legal paperwork later, and we're looking at that very same leaked device, now taking up space adjacent to our hefty 60GB "Classic" model from launch day. Unquestionably, it's smaller and lighter, but how else has Sony's Blu-ray-playing console evolved -- or regressed -- over these past few years? Read on to find out!
Volumetrically, the 120GB PS3 Slim takes up approximately 33 percent less space than its counterpart, and at 7.05 pounds it's about 36 percent lighter, too. Let's be honest, a 11 pound console was absolutely ridiculous, and we welcome the console now joining its competitors in a more reasonable weight class -- though it's far from the utterly dramatic size reduction we saw in the PS2 slimline. You can pick up a stand for $24, a bit steep since it should just come bundled, but even without the console sits vertically with what appears to be relatively good stability. Connectivity-wise, we're looking at the same setup as the most recent PS3 iterations, including just two USB 2.0 ports and 802.11b/g -- no Draft-N, which is a shame.
The good news about the BD-ROM drive? It still keeps your discs safe in the event the console gets moved about -- and if you've ever accidentally tapped your Xbox 360 the wrong way and found that slotted copy of Fallout 3 has now been rendered unusable by scratches, you know exactly how appreciated this feature is. The bad news? It's still just 2x speed, and none of this changes the fundamental use of PS3, meaning all those hassles of installing games while your Xbox 360-owning friends get to jump right in are still there. The AC cord has lost its ground pin and is actually the exact same, quasi-standardized cable that works with the PS2 and many laptop batteries, and just like the PS2 fat-to-slimline transition, the physical on-off switch on the backside has been made redundant and subsequently ousted.
Just above the disc drive on the front, the PlayStation logo can no longer twist to stay upright when the console stands vertically. We're sure not everyone bothered to realign it, but how much cost was really saved by cutting out the option? It's also experienced an inverse "Pleasantville" moment, whereby all its color has been removed in favor of an all-white design. The onetime touch sensitive panels for power and eject have been replaced with physical, matte buttons, ones that actually click when pressed, surrounded by a highly glossy surface. We actually really dig the new buttons and having some physical feedback when we're wanting to swap discs. Directly under that is a front-facing panel that can be removed to access the hard drive (more on that later).
Of course, the big debate here is gonna be the matte body. The Engadget staff is largely divided over the "toy-like" new form factor vs. the lustrous, fingerprint- and dust-loving predecessor, so much so that we're not gonna give a verdict one way or the other here. It does match the slimline PS2 quite nicely, and good thing it does since you'll have to keep one around if you were planning to play anything from the previous generation of games. The front panel and the sides of the body are still glossy, and even without the more mark-resistant material, you're still gonna leave smudges if you're too hands-on with the thing.
Not every feature made the transition to Slim, but gauging the severity of the cuts depends on how far back in the PS3 classic's timeline you want to go. The only aspect missing from its direct antecedent is the ability to install a third-party platform like Linux or OtherOS. It's a niche feature, sure, and we really can't imagine the average consumer is gonna care or even know that the feature's been ousted -- and if you're the sort of person that does, there should be plenty of used consoles in the market for years to come.
Go further back in the PS3's life cycle, however, and you begin to see just how much Sony's stricken from the hardware since its November 2006 debut. Two additional USB 2.0 ports, flash memory readers, and SACD playback have all met an untimely fate over these last years, but none of them sting quite as much as the loss of PlayStation 2 backwards compatibility. Sony can talk all they want about how people aren't looking at the past, but legacy support is something we've come to expect from our game consoles, and truth be told, the PS2 has one of the most impressive lineups in history of the industry (no offense meant, TurboGrafx-16 fanatics). We get it, Sony, you still haven't figured out how to emulate the PS2 on Cell and you don't want to waste the money / effort on throwing more chips inside the chassis when only a small portion of your audience will ever use it (sound familiar?), but why not give us a second, slightly more expensive model that does play (and upscales!) our old favorites instead of pushing those dedicated fans into seeking used systems from GameStop or eBay?
Where the Slim and its 45nm Cell processor really shine is in the electrical efficiency department. While the results won't be as drastic as when compared with the newer "fat" models, Sony's cut power consumption nearly in half since its initial, 90nm CPU iterations. The results are pretty universal across all applications, with the lone exception being a statistical tie when the models are plugged in and idle. Also reduced is the noise of the machine, and in repeat tests, we stand by our initial results: it's about 2 to 3 decibels quieter on average during gameplay, and up to 10 decibels quieter while watching Blu-ray movies -- nothing to write home about while running missions in Infamous, but during the quieter, more suspenseful moments of Watchmen, there wasn't any loud whirring noises this time to ruin the mood. And regardless, any iteration of the PS3 is gonna be remarkably quieter than the Xbox 360.
The actual temperature hasn't seemed to fluctuate, at least in our experiences: when placed side-by-side on the same shelf under near-identical situations, both consoles hovered at around 106 degrees Fahrenheit when running Folding@Home or playing a Blu-ray disc. Kind of a bummer, but with our electricity bill now marginally lower, guess we can't complain too much here.
At this point, we've probably swapped the Slim's hard drive over a dozen times. It's a quick and painless process as you can see in the video below, but to quickly recap: undo the panel on the bottom front of the console, take out the blue screw, slide off the front-right panel, and pull out the metal enclosure. You can replace with any 2.5-inch Serial ATA of your choosing -- a practice Sony not only supports but encourages, so no worries about voiding the warranty for 1TB of space. If you're swapping for brand new drive, you'll need to manually download the system software update via computer, transfer to disc or a USB drive into a folder called PS3 > UPDATE, and then insert when prompted on screen. Full details and pertinent links can be found on Sony's support site.
See more video at our hub!
Unfortunately for those upgrading hardware, you can't simply take the HDD from your classic system, insert it into the Slim, and have it work -- even with the same firmware update on both drives (2.80), it just won't recognize it. At all. You'll need to use a combination of the PS3 Backup Utility and manually transferring files to external storage if you want to save everything -- sure, it gets the job done, but that's a pretty big hassle for what should be a fairly straightforward plug-and-play job.
We're actually a bit surprised by the results here, so we checked over these a few times. It seems that the PS3 Slim's Blu-ray player is actually a tiny bit slower than our 60GB PS3 classic from 2006, albeit not by much. As you can see from the chart, the time between inserting the disc (listening for that last little "click" sound) and having it register in the menu was pretty much the same ten seconds each time, but once you click on the disc and actually launch into the movie, the time it takes to get to a non-loading screen was seconds quicker on the classic. Not a drastic difference, but after so many years to improve the BD technology, you think they'd bother to add something with a little more pep here, and certainly not deliver something with less.
That handy little chart from Sony Japan was spot-on, the PS3 Slim now bitstreams lossless TrueHD and DTS-HD MA audio. Just to be sure, we ran the console through a HD audio receiver -- in this case a Denon AVR-590 -- and popped in Watchmen Extended Edition. After selecting bitstream from Video Settings > BD/DVD Audio Output Format, the audio output at DTS-HD MA, and "The Times They Are A-Changin'" never sounded better. Frankly, it's not a difference that a majority of consumers are gonna care about, but if you're a home theater fanatic, you'll be more than appreciative.
Connecting directly to a 32-inch BRAVIA L-Series TV via HDMI gave us the option to utilize BRAVIA Sync and manage the system using our TV remote. Once enabled (via System Settings > Control for HDMI), we were able to do some basic tasks like navigate the XMB menu and control video playback, but other than that, there isn't a lot to see here -- sure, you can turn off both the display and the PS3 with the power button, but you can't use the same method for turning the pair back on, and browsing the PS Store comes quickly to a grinding halt once you realize there's no way to go back in the menus. It's a neat feature, but given the limitations, it's pretty pointless since you'll still need the DualShock 3 handy. Like TrueHD / DTS-HD, this feature only works on the Slim hardware and won't be coming to classic in the future.
Looking past any potential aversion to matte, anyone picking up a PlayStation 3 Slim is getting a significantly better product than an early or even mid adopter. Sony really has come through with a smaller, lighter, quieter, and more energy-efficient piece of hardware, and at $300, even if your sole interest is a Blu-ray player, it's a hard value to beat. More than anything, it's that price point that's sure to draw comparisons to the now-$300 120GB Xbox 360 Elite, and someone buying their first current-gen system now has a much more compelling reason to pick Sony than they did less than 30 days ago.
It's not all sunshine, though, as Blu-ray has taken an inexplicable performance hit that makes it slower at playing movies than its first-generation ancestor. That said, all signs point to an extension in the traditional four-year console cycle, which might make it a prime opportunity to cajole "Wii60" owners to lay down their arms and give PS3 a chance. Just don't forget to keep your PS2 handy.
Hardware

The good news about the BD-ROM drive? It still keeps your discs safe in the event the console gets moved about -- and if you've ever accidentally tapped your Xbox 360 the wrong way and found that slotted copy of Fallout 3 has now been rendered unusable by scratches, you know exactly how appreciated this feature is. The bad news? It's still just 2x speed, and none of this changes the fundamental use of PS3, meaning all those hassles of installing games while your Xbox 360-owning friends get to jump right in are still there. The AC cord has lost its ground pin and is actually the exact same, quasi-standardized cable that works with the PS2 and many laptop batteries, and just like the PS2 fat-to-slimline transition, the physical on-off switch on the backside has been made redundant and subsequently ousted.

Of course, the big debate here is gonna be the matte body. The Engadget staff is largely divided over the "toy-like" new form factor vs. the lustrous, fingerprint- and dust-loving predecessor, so much so that we're not gonna give a verdict one way or the other here. It does match the slimline PS2 quite nicely, and good thing it does since you'll have to keep one around if you were planning to play anything from the previous generation of games. The front panel and the sides of the body are still glossy, and even without the more mark-resistant material, you're still gonna leave smudges if you're too hands-on with the thing.
What's missing
![]() 120GB PS3 Slim
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![]() 160GB PS3
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![]() 80GB PS3
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| Product code | CECH-2000A | CECH-Pxx | CECH-Kxx / CECH-Lxx |
| Price | $299.99 | $399.99 | $299.99 |
| Color | Matte Black | Piano Black (Glossy) | Piano Black (Glossy) |
| HDD | 120GB 2.5-inch SATA | 160GB 2.5-inch SATA | 80GB 2.5-inch SATA |
| Dimensions | 11.42 x 2.56 x 11.42 in. | 12.75 x 3.86 x 10.8 in. | 12.75 x 3.86 x 10.8 in. |
| Weight | 7.05 lb. | 11 lb. | 11 lb. |
| Power | 250W | 280W | 280W |
| Vertical Stand | Optional ($24) | Not necessary | Not necessary |
| Compatibility | PSOne | PSOne, Linux | PSOne, Linux |
| PS2 compat? | No | No | No |
| BRAVIA Sync (HDMI-CEC) | Yes | No | No |
| Bundle | Wireless DualShock 3 controller | Wireless DualShock 3 controller, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, PAIN downloadable game voucher | Wireless DualShock 3 controller |
Read more about this chart here.
Not every feature made the transition to Slim, but gauging the severity of the cuts depends on how far back in the PS3 classic's timeline you want to go. The only aspect missing from its direct antecedent is the ability to install a third-party platform like Linux or OtherOS. It's a niche feature, sure, and we really can't imagine the average consumer is gonna care or even know that the feature's been ousted -- and if you're the sort of person that does, there should be plenty of used consoles in the market for years to come.
Go further back in the PS3's life cycle, however, and you begin to see just how much Sony's stricken from the hardware since its November 2006 debut. Two additional USB 2.0 ports, flash memory readers, and SACD playback have all met an untimely fate over these last years, but none of them sting quite as much as the loss of PlayStation 2 backwards compatibility. Sony can talk all they want about how people aren't looking at the past, but legacy support is something we've come to expect from our game consoles, and truth be told, the PS2 has one of the most impressive lineups in history of the industry (no offense meant, TurboGrafx-16 fanatics). We get it, Sony, you still haven't figured out how to emulate the PS2 on Cell and you don't want to waste the money / effort on throwing more chips inside the chassis when only a small portion of your audience will ever use it (sound familiar?), but why not give us a second, slightly more expensive model that does play (and upscales!) our old favorites instead of pushing those dedicated fans into seeking used systems from GameStop or eBay?
Noise, heat, and power consumption
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Current (ampere)
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Power (watt)
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60GB PS3 Classic
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PS3 Slim
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60GB PS3 Classic
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PS3 Slim
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| Plugged in / powered off | 0.05 | 0.06 | 2 | 1 |
| Browsing XMB | 1.44 | 0.7 | 170 | 79 |
| Downloading from PS Store | 1.49 | 0.7 | 175 | 81 |
| Installing LittleBigPlanet | 1.40 | 0.64 | 162 | 74 |
| Playing LittleBigPlanet | 1.54 | 0.78 | 181 | 89 |
| Playing Killzone 2 | 1.67 | 0.86 | 196 | 100 |
| Watching a Blu-ray | 1.44 | 0.68 | 167 | 75 |
The actual temperature hasn't seemed to fluctuate, at least in our experiences: when placed side-by-side on the same shelf under near-identical situations, both consoles hovered at around 106 degrees Fahrenheit when running Folding@Home or playing a Blu-ray disc. Kind of a bummer, but with our electricity bill now marginally lower, guess we can't complain too much here.
Swapping the HDD

See more video at our hub!
Unfortunately for those upgrading hardware, you can't simply take the HDD from your classic system, insert it into the Slim, and have it work -- even with the same firmware update on both drives (2.80), it just won't recognize it. At all. You'll need to use a combination of the PS3 Backup Utility and manually transferring files to external storage if you want to save everything -- sure, it gets the job done, but that's a pretty big hassle for what should be a fairly straightforward plug-and-play job.
Blu-ray playback
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Disc-to-XMB
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Click-to-video
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60GB PS3 Classic
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PS3 Slim
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60GB PS3 Classic
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PS3 Slim
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| Watchmen |
9.6
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10
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23
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27
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| The International |
10
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10
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31
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35
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| Air Force One |
9
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9.9
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30
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32
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| Nightmare Before Xmas |
10
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10
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25
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35
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TrueHD / DTS-HD MA audio

BRAVIA Sync

Wrap-up

It's not all sunshine, though, as Blu-ray has taken an inexplicable performance hit that makes it slower at playing movies than its first-generation ancestor. That said, all signs point to an extension in the traditional four-year console cycle, which might make it a prime opportunity to cajole "Wii60" owners to lay down their arms and give PS3 a chance. Just don't forget to keep your PS2 handy.


































Darn.
In honor of the subject, they should release a slimmed up this review to good, meh, or bad.
For those on the fence with a couple of hundred to spare, this seems like a wise choice. I made a big deal about backwards compatibility before I bought my PS3, but the only PS2 game I ever played on it were Shadow of the Colossus and God of War. Other than that, it's a feature that I easily could have lived without.
If you buy it, get it for LittleBigPlanet, Uncharted (1 & 2), and MGS4, but don't expect an Xbox Live level of fun or community.
-PS3/XBOX360/Wii (lol) owner.
The only exclusive I've really enjoyed on the PS3 is Uncharted.
MGS4 was a huge disappointment to me MGS3 is still the best. :)
You know that's what I was thinking. I don't have any PS2 games and will probably not play them anyay. $299 is a terrific price. Can't wait to sell grandma.
Yeah, I'm a PISSWIIXTY user too for at least the next few weeks:
Just selling my original old faithful 60Gb for the Slim & getting rid of the wii because I'm not a 5 year old (my nephew loves his) or a 655 year old woman (my mum loves her Wii Fit!)
Still got 2 360s - original premium still going strong from day-1 release & an elite but nowadays I use them for rock band/guitar hero & the PS3 for everything else
Welcome to the world of gaming in the late oughts.
I played GoW2 on my PS3 (60 Gig Classic). The game came with a widescreen mode and looked great upscaled, and (eventually) rumble was available. I also played a lot of FFXII.
@Zax
The reason I like console gaming is because it's relatively cheap. Gaming computers cost a fortune relatively, and every new title has higher and higher system requirements so PC gaming requires relgular upgrades. That's all well and good if you want the best of the best and have the money, but I'm a gamer on a budget, so I went with a console.
Sure you can avoid gaming all together and spend $0, but if you are willing to pay to play, then console gaming is relatively economical.
@DirtyVegas
You can get $300 for your Grandma? I only got $150 for mine :(
I'm the opposite, I bought a 60gb PS3 thinking that backward compatibility was no big deal but I might as well have it just in case (60gb and 80gb were the same price at the time and I didn't need the extra storage for anything), but I ended up using it a lot. I suppose I could technically hook up a PS2 to the same TV, but I like to keep my entertainment center clean and the bottom line is that I wouldn't. It's just nice to have that ability handy for when I need it, and I would definitely miss it if I traded my system for a slim one.
or InFamous!
Fail on multiple levels. Please go and never come back, troglodyte.
475, what?
Nice music on the video. Very nerd pornish
Yeah, Shazam couldn't pick it up.. what was that song playing in the vid?
Looks great but i wouldn't change my FAT ps3 with 4 usb, and ps2 compatible.
Heck yeah! I still haven't had any issues with my launch day 60gb!
Sorry in advance if this winds up being a double post:
Heck yeah! I've still got my launch day 60gb model... haven't had any problems!
Same here. I thought about swapping my fat 20GB (upgraded to 160GB) for a Slim for the bitstreaming and lower power/etc.. but... Loss of PS2 I could almost live with, loss of SACD is a complete deal-breaker.
My PS3 is NTFS not FAT.
I agree (and I have one too), but do you really use 4 usb ports? .... really?
@badison
I actually do often use more than 2 usb ports, mainly when i have friends over and we play rockband which can use all four at times. Also good so i can charge my controllers while playing games. So yes, 4 usb ports is quite useful.
ps3 price cut xbox 360 price cut = win for the gamers you remember them right the ones that actually use it to play video games like god of war or gears of war this is great news and maybe now the developers will make some great games.
Let the competition began !!
nicknackpattywack, I am one of those winners you mention. I never made it to the second Generation consoles (PS2, Xbox)...and I thought for sure I wouldn't be getting down with the current generation of systems...that was until a few weeks ago when my girlfriend decided we should have an Xbox 360. Had we seen a price drop coming, we would have waited for the Elite...but I was quite pleased with our purchase. Then came the PS3 Slim...how could I resist. And with tons of older games which I never played (now even cheaper used), i'm on top of the world. The Wii will come when we have a decent space for the active games.
@ Chocolate
Give the Wii a wide berth. Check out Sonys motion control offering, or MSs' Natal before you do the Wii. I have a Wii and it is jolly good fun for the first little while, and then you realise that waggling sticks really is the same as pressing buttons. And then you realise that pressing buttons is actually more fun. And then you realise that you've bought a console, a balance board, a plastic gun holder, additional motion plus thingies, a controller charger, additional wiimotes and controllers etc for something that plays games with as much panache as PS1 games. One of the reasons I got the Nintendo was because it was a Nintendo, and I had never owned one, so I wanted to be able to get to know Mario and friends. That was a mistake. If you like the fast paced action games of the 360/PS3, don't look back at the Wii. You're not missing much, certainly not worth the overall cost. Actually I have mine chipped and have approx 100 games for it. Arguably 3 aren't complete shit.
Darn? Because you lost something in not being first? You look like an idiot either way.
:'(
Thank you for the power figures. I'm still wondering if it uses less power than the Xbox360 to play a DVD?
Who cares? PS3 plays DVDs better than 360. The upscaling is far better on PS3.
Surely PQ comes before Power Consumption?
Who cares? PS3 plays DVDs better than 360. The upscaling is far better on PS3.
wow you are so smart how did you know that?
I'm asking because I care. My family won't ever notice the picture quality difference.
Given that, I'd prefer to use the unit that produces less heat.
Cityzen,
I can tell you this:
1) It's quieter when playing a DVD
2) Not sure if it's (less heat) but i would trust a ps3 to last much longer and not break because of heat over the 360..
My question isn't about what unit is more likely to overheat.
It's purely about power consumption. In the summer time, the power used by a gadget is more than just the watts used by the gadget, since now you also need to cool your living room down by running the A/C more.
I suppose the real answer is just to use a dedicated DVD player (which consumes under 20 watts).
Jeez dude, its got 45nm processor technology. Less heat & Less power....
Go get one.
I am assuming you want a games console too?
Otherwise, get a DVD player for about £100 less.
"anyone picking up a PlayStation 3 Slim is getting a significantlly better product than an early or even mid adopter."
Not to start people freaking, but what exactly was significantly better?. I'm not saying it isn't a great product (It seems to be) I just don't see the significantly better reasoning compared to our launch units.
I don't see it either. My shelf doesn't care if its slim. And blu-ray movies take a performance hit? It's the main reason i bought an early one.
Yea, I don't understand how slower blu-ray and less features make a significantly better product.Just significantly more affordable.
Reduction in power consumption is significant enough for me to consider selling my launch 60GB unit for the Slim.
"Kind of a bummer, but with our electricity bill now marginally lower, guess we can't complain too much here"
They didn't seem to agree that there was a significant difference there. You seriously would loose money on getting rid of your current PS3 and then getting a new one because you may save a little on the electric bill? That just doesn't seem like a good idea.
I thought the same thing after reading that statement. I couldn't figure out what I missed in the review that was better than classic versions. Smaller size and less power consumption is "okay" but definitely not a factor for me to get rid of my classic version.
It uses about 90 watts less for most operations, that's quite a lot, but to put it in perspective...
IF you played your PS3 6 hours a day, that would be about 6 CENTS a day, or about $1.80/mo with current electricity prices. You could save the same amount by replacing a couple of light bulbs with curly ones....
ive been saying this since the first article they posted...other than size and power consumption, they did absolutely nothing to improve it over and early or middle run unit
@duke
Good improvement? TrueHD / DTS-HD MA audio - http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/21/ps3-slim-bitsreams-dolby-truehd-and-dts-hd-ma-audio-at-last/
If you're trying to get the best quality surround sound set up, then the slim seems to be a significant improvement (which most people won't care about according to this review? Still sounds like a nice improvement).
@badison
The older models can decode those tracks internally and send the audio over via LPCM. Bitstreaming allows the PS3 to send those tracks over undecoded and then your receiver decodes them. But the resulting sound that plays from your speakers is identical in either situation.
Vidikron, your comment is not correct in saying the resulting sound is the same. It depends heavily on the decoding of the actual sound track. The ps3 might do a decent job, but most home theater receivers should still do a better job of decoding the information. It is the same for upscaling video as well, you can have the ps3 do the work or your tv, receiver, or separate upscaler do the work. It just all depends on the quality of the processors and decoders. I hope this makes sense.
As I sit and look at a 1 year and 2 month old OS3 40 GB unit that died at 1 year and 1 week of age, why would I want to give Sony another dime of my $$??? I'm seriously evaluating if I want to even deal with the BS of having to send it to them so they can send me someone else's refurbished POS. Sony needs to get over it's self and make these consoles servicable.
Don't cry! Now I feel bad. :'(
I'm still happy with my 80GB "Classic" that plays PS2 games. Something is just satifying about being able to play God of War and MGS4 on the same machine.
I never had a PS2, so I was never able to play the original God of War games, and it's kind of sad that if I buy a PS3 now I can't usee it to play those games before God of War 3 comes out.
You mean 60GB?
@Andir3.0
No, he means 80GB. I have the same model (80GBs) and it is backwards compatible.
Besides, where did you "learn" that the 60GB model plays PS2 games?
No, Andir, he means 80GB. I have one of those too. It can play most PS2 games, but doesn't have as much PS2 hardware built in as the 20 and 60, so a few games have glitches or don't work right.
In Europe the 80 GB version never had BC, only on the US (I think).
On EU, we only got the 60 GB version that had BC.
"and at $300, even if your sole interest is a Blu-ray player, it's a hard value to beat."
That statement is outdated by a few years isn't it? You can get BD players for half that now, so tho get a PS3 includes wanting the console functionality.
But now for only $300 you can get one of the best blu-ray players on the market that is also perfect for streaming media from your compluter and playing games. Still think classic is better due to PS2 games, but if I didn't already own a PS3 I'd be pretty happy with the slim.
And for cheaper than the PS3, those BD players will work with a universal remote. I would have preferred Sony put an IR receiver in the Slim than adding Bravia Sync.
Don't forget that this Blu-Ray player will almost assuredly come out with updates to match any new Blu-Ray features, useful or not.
I REALLY want to justify getting one of these babies but until it's hacked so I can use it as some kind of media device for HD films and such I just can't see it happening. I don't play enough games or have a use for the BluRay.
Anyone out there had any success in unlocking the true potential? MKV playback is all I ask for really and I presume it will do some sort NAS type thing?
BTW - I know some people will say get an X-Box but the one and only game I like is WipeOut so it's a no go there.
Ta
Oh don't be daft, you can already playback HD content on your PS3. Ever heard of ps3mediaserver?
@ ezhangin
Well clearly not!?
So will this allow me to copy MKV files to the PS3's hard drive and playback through my projector (or TV - same thing)
More investigation is needed me thinks!
Thanks for your input.
You can convert and mkv file to m2ts in less than 2minutes (TsMuxer), so if you have waited several hour downloading a movie two minutes converting shouldn’t bother you.
neg. ps3MediaServer just encodes on the fly from MKV to mp4 using your PC. You could encode and then store on your ps3 of course, but it's still quite a hassle.
woops. I stand corrected by Daki. I am only familiar with using xbox through ps3mediaserver and some of my friends experiences with it. Daki's way sounds much better.
I hate mkv... Seems like a totally superfluous format that people have for some reason picked up.
MKVTOVOB repackages MKV's to be playable on the PS3 in just a few minutes.
I meant to say MKV2VOB
Big thanks to all - your knowledge is very much appreciated!
Cheers
You can use PS3 Media Server to save transcoded streams to the PS3 as well, though you need to cap the bitrate to something reasonable
Where are the US bundles at?!?
Yeah I'm pretty tempted right now to pick one up but what would/will(possibly) push me over the edge no questions asked would be a PS3 slim FFXIII bundle for $300.
WOW! I'm so glad I cancelled my order!!
Same here!! F*CK that SH*T! The logo doesn't turn!? Who do they think they are!? When I buy the verticle stand and put it up I want to be able to know it's a Playstation!!
Screw PS2 compatibility... give a vertical logo!
I like my stood-in-line-on-launch-day 60 gig and my 80 gig too much, both of which are PS2 compatable. I end up playing PS2 games and using the consoles as an upconverting DVD player more than for PS3 gaming/Blu-ray, unless whatever comes in the mail from Netflix.
Haven't used my 360 or Wii in months. Right now I'm playing Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance and watching Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger.
ROFL.
This never gets old.
Good review. Glad to see the HDD swap is easy.
I'm impressed with sony's price drop, I might be picking a PS3 soon, but if I do I'm going to try and pick up an older one. It really bothers me that Sony keeps on cutting features from the ps3. i might never use the linux functionality, but it just being available was one of the things I always respected about the PS3, and I wouldn't feel right paying $300 for an inferior version of a console.
Slower blu-ray isn't a deal breaker but it really doesn't make sense, or speak strongly of sony or blu-ray.
is funny, i would buy a new Ps3 now if they had Ps2 emulation for a few games i played but never owned.
It also annoys me they took the feature/option out, i would pay an extra fee for it.
That's a huge decrease of power-usage.
Great job by Sony there..
yeah...i'm planning on selling my fat 80gb model (not BC) for this...just for energy savings!
Does anyone remember that video of a guy buying a PS3 Slim in some shady store in Thailand? Everyone thought it was a fake, but in hindsight it looks like he had the real thing months before it was even announced. Any follow up? Sony should fire someone over that...
yhhh but i think it not thailand it was philippine i thinl
The fact that the PS3 Slim came out doesn't change anything about that old video. For all anyone knows, the thing in the video could've been a cheap DVD player stuffed into a KIRF case.
this baby is back on the block
sadly i just sold my ps3 and bought xbox 360 60gb
wrong timing
It's okay Duke, I forgive. It was my first and last "first". It wasn't the experience I had hoped and even felt dirty almost. Must go shower off.
So now that this thing is in the wild, have any "audio nerds" actually tested the bitstream setting vs the LPCM setting to see if the PS3 actually DOES garble the LPCM? How long 'til that test shows up?
When the writer says 'so no worries about voiding the warranty for 1TB of space' in reference to upgrading the HDD - The only 1TB 2.5" HDD that I know of is 12.5mm thick. Is he saying that it can fit 12.5mm drives or was he getting carried away? I read on another website that they had checked and only a 9.5mm drive can fit into the slim - but they seem to be the ones saying anything with any certainty (everyone else is speculating).
i also would like to know if it's the 12.5 or 9.5 mm drives. i'm planning on purchasing the slim and the first thing i'll go is swap out the hdd. any info would be appreciated!
It's so frustrating that people have been ripping the device apart yet have yet to confirm something as simple as the hard drive space - it's probably the only reason any normal folk would ever need to take a screwdriver to a PS3! Someone must know!?!
It's 9.5mm
Damn. That's what I feared!
I love my 360 and have never had problems with it.
That said, if I were shopping for a console now, I would definitely consider the PS3 for two reasons: BluRay (which I admittedly wouldn't use much), and the lack of RRODs. Or is it "RRsOD?"
Hmm, still, I like my XBLA...it would be tough. Good job, Sony!
Well, there is a GamesCom and a Games Con.
One is in Cologne, the other it Leipzig!
Take that!
The Playstation 3 font is the same as the Spider-Man 3 font... I noticed it right away, maybe it was a marketing ploy... i dont know, but thank god they finally changed it.
It isn't even possible to move the HDD between two classic PS3s, so hearing you can't do it to the slim is no surprise.
Is the optical drive in the slim PS3 based on a laptop drive or a desktop drive? That would explain the slower speed compared to the previous generation (which was a desktop drive). I wonder what would be the reliability of this drive, as laptop drives have much lower MTBF.
According to some other article where they took the machine apart, the drive is a completely proprietary Sony part.
What's the name of the jazzy porn music that played while you were fondling the PS3?
Got mine yesterday! Loving it so far, but have to say I'm disappointed in the media streaming compared to the 360. On more than a few files, the picture has been inexplicably washed out where they played perfectly on the 360. Also noticing a lot more artifacting on lower quality files. And the time to start playing seems to be much longer on the PS3. Fast forwarding and rewind is also sluggish compared to the 360.
Looks like the PS3 will be taking over disc-based media playback (since the tray on the 360 is now giving me trouble) and the 360 will keep the streaming media playback. Guess which one will be used more?
Well, now the long wait till GT5.