Palm crafting GSM versions of the Pre Plus and Pixi Plus?
By Chris Ziegler 
posted January 23rd 2010 10:11AM
posted January 23rd 2010 10:11AM
posted January 23rd 2010 10:11AM
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it will probably go to O2 in UK.
BTW whats the difference between the original palm pre and this pre plus? is it just the expanded internal memory?
@rakeshin The Pre plus also doubles the ram from 256 to 512, which is nice if you like to keep a lot of cards open.
@rakeshin There isn't that much difference. That's a problem for Palm. If the rumors of this article are true then AT&T, or some nonUSA carrier(s), is going to have a hard sell.
Perhaps what's coming is something a little more exciting.
@rakeshin
Honestly? There's a link to the Pre Plus review on every single page!
Get with it!
@Johnny Ive thanks for that. didnt notice :)
@rakeshin
You are welcome :-)
@Freakin Ijit
You don't need to improve on perfection. The added ram and storage is plenty.
@sweet greggo Unfortunately for Palm, that is not true. By all accounts the Pre and Pixi have not been doing very well with sales for Palm. Incrementally "improving" them in a manner that the normal consumer has no clue about simply won't make the grade; Palm has to come out with something EXCITING. Maybe they've got something behind the scenes.
@rakeshin AT&T was spotted in the webOS 1.3.8 server logs. It's coming to AT&T.
I'd prefer Palm sends out Nexus 1 form factor phone, with a bigger screen than the Pre, instead of milking the Pre still...at this point it's just existing, and it's not the star of the show. The Pixi didn't help the excitement at all, either.
Hurry up, Palm.
@JONNNathannn I would probably still have one had the screen been bigger. The .3" difference between the Pre and an iPhone was significant for my eyes. BUT - with a bigger screen (and gesture area) the phone would be slightly larger and thus somewhat awkward in the hand when using the keyboard (which I am sure Palm will NEVER consider getting rid of).
@rakeshin UNA is for North America with US 3G bands. The EU version would say P101UEU and P121UEU, which presumably the SFR version would be.
@ToniCipriani That's a shame. I'm in the UK and I'll be looking to buy a new phone in the next couple of months - I was thinking of getting a pre on O2, but now I know there's a pre plus just waiting round the corner, I really don't want to spend money on an 'old' phone. So I'll probably just get a nexus instead.
Basically, if Palm don't hurry up and announce something for Europe, they're going to lose a potential customer.
@Freakin Ijit
Didn't I see the other day that Palm moved around 2.5 million units of the Pre and Pixi? For a company that is supposed to be dead or dying they seem to be doing okay.
I can't for the life of me understand why people think Palm should have released an entirely new phone only 7 mos after the Pre, yet it's okay for Apple to only release one phone a year. The same phone. Every year.
@rakeshin
The Pre is a slideout version of Palm's dumbphone. And the Pixi is a candybar phone + keyboard of Palm's dumbphone.
@Craig And France is not Europe?
Joking aside, I do agree with you. I'm amongst those who refuse to buy phones from carriers and rather pay full price for an unlocked one. I'd love to get my hands on a completely branding and junk app free and unlocked GSM Pre Plus. Be it in Europe or North American.
Hell I don't understand why Palm didn't go the tri-band UMTS route. Saves them two different SKUs.
@sweet greggo
> Didn't I see the other day that Palm moved around 2.5 million units of
> the Pre and Pixi?...
No, you sure did not!
@Freakin Ijit
You're right, it was an analysts prediction for the first year. I'm still wondering though why some people feel Palm should be releasing a THIRD phone in less than a year when a certain other company gets a pass.
@Craig same here. Waiting for a Palmpre (now plus) in portuga3, since US launch a year ago...
@ToniCipriani There is a GSM version of the Pre here in Mexico with Telcel, if the UNA stands for North America then it must be bound for Mexico again. Just a thought
Drop it like it's hot :D
@snowycoke
THats why it is called the "Palm Punnani"
Palm Pre Double Plus and Palm Pixi Double Plus.
Double plus good.
@Nitesh - 2nd'd, fantastic comment right there.
@Nitesh
next 2P palm pre,3P palm pre plus,4P palm pre plus p(?????)
please come to vodafone
@Nitesh Pre plus plus... rhymes with C++...
Do want.
Don't want.
@Almo that what she said!
Well duh.
$2 and an Internet says that these won't have any US 3G frequencies.
I want something Linux-based, with a capacitive touchscreen, Cortex A8, keyboard, WiFi, not locked down, on GSM, with US 3G frequencies.
For some reason no one wants to produce this.
@starkruzr The Pre is coming to AT&T. It will have 3G frequencies.
@starkruzr UNA = UMTS North America.
sheesh.. whats taking them so long? they could've gotten more sales with a GSM version.. not to mention people in other countries wanting it legally or illegally.. come on Palm! ramp up your world wide distribution!
@pogz ENDORSED
This will follow in palms old style, new improved products will go to alternate carriers, so I doubt O2-UK will get it.
End of the day, the quality of the hardware is rubbish. The design may be desirable to some (incl. me) but if it feels like crap then no thanks!
Okay okay come on Palm, instead of releasing the Pre and Pixi on every network known to mankind, let's see some new hardware
@charlietokowitz F*ck you really. I live in Sweden and we still haven't got the Pre with no sign of launch dates. We had to wait for over a year from the release of the iPhone in the US before we could get it here. The Pre is still only available in 7/50 european countries, I don't know about the rest of the world (probably a even worse situation) but i'd call that FAR from "every network known to mankind". For a country who usually get's the latest and greatest first, you americans are incredibly arrogant.
Are you daft? Given Palm's financial situation, they would be pretty stupid not to try to sell webOS devices to anyone who might be interested, and a large portion of that group is outside the US where they don't have the disease known as CDMA.
@charlietokowitz What kopmis said
Does this mean Nilay is going to hear it from Josh on this week's podcast? Or is it the other way around? I forget.
The keys on the Pre Plus are supposed to be a little bit more pronounced and slightly fuller according to some reviews. There are pics of the standard and the Plus side by side showing that as well.
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/newgallery.aspx?id=40213&img=15
Bring it on, AT&T!
I have a Nexus One and I have to say I really like the Palm Pre Plus! I think its a HOTT little device and I think that the 512 RAM will make a HUGE difference! I know it does on the N1.
I really would carry the Palm Pre Plus around as 2nd device if it were T-Mobile, which I know it wont but still. What if.
Finally!!! I hate CDMA.
I'd love to see webOS run on some decent hardware i,e nexus one or HTC HD2.
@appleboy
Cortex A8 + 512M RAM sounds like decent hardware...
This would be awesome, I nice alternative to Blackberry devices.
it will not go to AT&T as Palm said that the Pre plus and Pixi plue would be exclusive to Verizon.
@Bash2cool What if the exclusivity was only for like 5 months, then it would come to Att later this year :O orrrr because it isnt the same phone... they could get away with it!
Just sell me the phone, not interested in carriers.