We aren't trying to lump these two together or anything, but we figured we'd give those of you who opted for Palm's
second set of webOS handsets an opportunity to pool your thoughts in order to make the smartphone landscape an even better place to survey. We personally didn't find too much new to laud on Verizon's Palm-branded twofer compared to the original
Pre and
Pixi, and those of you who were hoping for all new hardware from the company at CES were undoubtedly let down. Still, there's something to be said about a webOS product on America's "largest 3G network," and frankly, we're interested in hearing how you'd change things. Would you have overhauled things more drastically? Expanded the screen size? Bumped the resolution? Enlarged the keys? Go on and tell
Jon exactly what you think in comments below -- who knows, the Pre Plus Plus might just carry your calling card.
Take that goofy background off.
@TonyMontana2367
Palm, try to make your next device a little more manlier. I love the Palm Pre, but it looks way too girly.
Looks like a Unicorn took a dump on it
@TonyMontana2367 goofy? i love it where can i find them!
4.3" WVGA screen
@HerbieDerb
Please put a flying unicorn CPU in there while your doing that.
@TonyMontana2367 SD or micro SD coupled with better build quality. Toss a Snapdragon in there (because we all know webOS needs that to perform all buttery smooth-like) Bigger screen, smaller gesture area to accomodate the screen, throw an on screen keyboard in. Make webOS more responsive to the accelerometer. Throw a better browser into it, preferably Opera or Fennecfox. But for the most part they need to rapidly expand their App Catalog because lord knows an average of 10 new apps a day is lackluster to say the least.
And if the mythical C40 handset doesn't save them, they need to license webOS out. Preferably to HTC.
@anus1220
well after all of that, i would just have to say you might as well say build a new phone.
@anus1220 I think the browser is fine. And it would be kind of weird for a device that is completely built on webkit to not use its own browser. I would also vehemently disagree with the licensing. It would be one thing to farm out production of a Palm spec phone to another manufacturer. But I don't like the idea of licensing it out so HTC can make whatever they want (unless that's not what you meant). Cause that's a freaking disaster waiting to happen. Android-style. Ha.
I do agree with everything else. I understand that every Palm device will probably have a keyboard but I'd love to see a nice onscreen keyboard with no physical one. I'm thinking a Palm device with HD2-esque specs. Even if I kind of like the Pre's screen size, which enables me to easily browse one handed.
@statelypenguin You're absolutely right on the browser bit. I just want to see a different browser because the current one messes up all too often, the checkerboard bugginess etc. And if they were to license it out, I would hope they pull a WP7S by having strict qualifications, like a mandatory gesture area obviously and so on. I would hope they don't have to go there because I do believe webOS has the potential to go far, just not on the Pre or Pixi (or their plus counterparts') hardware. Personally I find the Pre form factor disgusting anyway. It's like the Motorala PEBL (remember that?!) except a slider.
What they need to do with the C40 to succeed is not only provide innovative hardware to match the software, but a truly beautiful form factor. One that makes customers automatically wonder who it's made by and then the name Palm will start popping back into people's heads with respect like they had ages ago. If they do decide to go the slate route they need something better than the arrow to navigate around words though, they need something to rival the iPhone's magnifying glass feature (which I personally find incredibly useful and beautifully implemented).
And while I'm rambling I'd like to add how atrocious scrolling is compared to the iPhone. It makes me jealous every time i see my brother scroll!
MicroSD
...that is all
@camroncake Make it GSM and have it unlocked.
1. 800 x 400 screen
2. software keyboard only (thinner and simpler hardware, also allowing faster international keyboard support)
3. microsd
4. WORLDWIDE LAUNCH
5. Simpler ads, functionality based.
@HerbieDerb I concur, please do something about the browser if you can't change it and make a total overhaul at least fix the bugginess. Next will be the storage capability, please allow MicroSD, its so convenient to use. And perhaps a new change to Palm WebOS 1.4.. just saying. I think palm pre pixi plus this is still a good device it just need to do some changes. Reactions: http://bit.ly/palm-pre-pixi-plus-examined-again
HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO ASK FOR AN UNLOCKED GSM VERSION ON AMAZON??????????????????????????
@anus1220 i agree with almost everything you said, but i don't think they need a new browser. the current one gets a 92 on the acid3 test, one more update, and its golden
@TonyMontana2367
Come to AT&T
@Cynical Hippie
I agree, the round edges and the soap bar shape don't work for me. It really does look like a girls phone.
I'd also change the keys, the layout is ok, but i just don't like the feel and size of them.
@Supply8
Im not the one building the phone. Mail some of your pixie dust to them and theyll put in your CPU.
@Cynical Hippie Its magically delicious.
@Cynical Hippie I don't think Palm should have to compensate for your insecurity in your sexuality.
@camroncake I agree, oh and better battery life and done. This phone is the best phone on the market, period.
@jcar302 I love the rounded edges. It slips in and out of my front shirt pocket with great ease.
@anus1220 I can honestly say I have had 0 issues wit the browser and it scrolls oerfectly fine for me. The webos browser works perfectly I find and the response to the accelerometer is actually faster than iphone 3GS from all the tests I've seen. And there IS a virtual keyboard that works pretty darn well available through homebrew.
@anus1220 I can honestly say I have had 0 issues wit the browser and it scrolls oerfectly fine for me. The webos browser works perfectly I find and the response to the accelerometer is actually faster than iphone 3GS from all the tests I've seen. And there IS a virtual keyboard that works pretty darn well available through homebrew.
@doutorpiranha Add more battery to that and possibly try the double-slider (add landscape keyboard for web input while leaving portrait for the number pad) format for people with fat fingers.
@HerbieDerb
change that to a 4.3 WXGA screen...
Release for sprint please?
@doutorpiranha
Good hardware keyboard! The rest you nailed.
@anus1220 While I do agree with the large touchscreen + virtual keyboard sentiments, the speed problems are by and large fixed by the overclock kernel.
@weedalin
Catching up on old news?
@futurerheza it is along with every other wifi supporting thing out there
Man it seem like all the proprietary software (while uniform and controlled). But the open platform will have his day. These two phone need more support behind them then they already have.
Can they quit making these stupid exclusive deals with carriers?
They can't just follow the iphone model, they need to out-compete by being available on all carriers and allowing for lower pricing - like what HTC is doing with the Desire.
If you want the Pre to grow aim for the mass market!
Palm pre plus: gimme 1GHz processer, more RAM and i'll be perfectooo,
@applehateboy
how many things do you keep open on it at a time!!? I would say the amount of ram is suitable.
haha looks like katamari
@robertvega81
Its Habbo Hotel!
Nothing. Palm made it's last stand before. This is a last grab effort at best. If I was a stockholder, I would be bailing with a penny per stock profit because this is effectively dead.
Since they are not selling it anywhere apart from USA(Plus), and they are reeling under losses, how about selling it elsewhere? Like India?
@ashvala And Canada. And not on Bell.
@ashvala Release Worldwide Unlocked on GSM.. that's all that I need to get a Palm Pre Plus. Add more memory n call it Palm Pre++..
it's laggy!
BlackBerry style keyboard!
@LADodgersFan88
how about just evolve into a blackberry?! bwahahahaha, no but seriously ive only had the chance to play with one once at a sprint (retailer) store and i had a horrible experience with it. nobody knew any real information about the phone. i sorta just threw in the towel. id love to give it a real 'sporting try' and see if its something i could use...
@nicholiservia I can't help you with the CPU since even the PRE still needs a better CPU but the Pixi Plus has WiFi
Bring it to Sprint already for my mom and bro....
at the very least put it on sprint: better build + 16 GB internal
but i'm pretty sure palm's-a cookin-a something up
to be released for sprint this summer
but seriously, sd card slot is a must for either version (regular or plus)
Just something with equal specs when compared to the Nexus One (processor, RAM, screen resolution).
Also, not related to the Plus models, but I would also like to see a GSM model.
@roessnakhan Not related? I waited a whole year without contract for the gsm and never came. I really like my iPhone, mainly because it does what garnet did on such a polished way. But with so many new gadgets i wasn't going to any longer
@Coober Im pretty sure AT&T is getting one in like April