Engadget Podcast 202 - 06.26.2010

You know, people loved the last commercial-free Engadget podcast we did, last week. And they said we couldn't replicate its success for yet another week, so deep in the throes of summer. Well, we're here to tell you that we've done it again: a-NOTHER commercial-free rock block of Engadgety bliss: wrapping up the week with a distinct brand of humor, polish, and forward-thinking insight that only the Engadget Podcasters can deliver. Oh, and one more thing: it's free. Hear different.

Hosts: Joshua Topolsky, Nilay Patel, Paul Miller
Producer: Trent Wolbe
Music: jumpcatchmushroom - Bulletproof

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00:01:38 - The Engadget Show - 010: Jimmy Fallon, Kudo Tsunoda, Microsoft Kinect, iPhone 4, Samsung Captivate, Droid X
00:04:00 - iPhone 4 review
00:04:25 - First iPhone 4 units being delivered
00:04:35 - iPhone 4 launch day line watch (update: Woz in action)
00:04:50 - Poll: is your iPhone 4 retina display seeing yellow spots? (update: losing bars in the hand?)
00:05:08 - iPhone 4's yellow spot issue goes away with a bit of time?
00:06:07 - Some iPhone 4 models dropping calls when held left-handed, including ours (Update: Apple responds)
00:08:10 - The Jimmy Fallon Test: is the iPhone 4 dropping fewer calls?
00:11:00 - iPhone 4 antenna woes contextualized by dude in the know
00:15:42 - Apple responds to iPhone 4 reception issues: you're holding the phone the wrong way
00:20:00 - Apple: white iPhone 4 not available until second half of July, 'more challenging to manufacture than expected'
00:27:20 - Hey Apple, you're holding it wrong
00:30:00 - Okay, you've got an iPhone 4 -- now what?
00:35:29 - Gyroscope gunning on the iPhone 4 with Eliminate: Gun Range (video)
00:45:00 - iOS 4 apps: the best of what's new and updated (live updates!)
00:48:25 - Motorola Droid X for Verizon official: July 15 for $200
00:49:40 - Live from Verizon's Motorola Droid X event!
00:52:55 - Motorola Droid X first (official) hands-on and unboxing! Update: video!
00:55:00 - Droid X vs. iPhone 4... hang out!
01:02:05 - Android 2.2 coming to Droid in 'late July,' Droid X in 'late August?'
01:02:25 - Android 2.2 Froyo source code available today

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[SolidSnake Posted Jun 26th 2010 1:15PM]

Could you guys upload the extra part at the end too?

[BenHemesath Posted Jun 26th 2010 1:20PM]

@SolidSnake
Hey SolidSnake.. Are you by any chance playing in the 'Battle of Both Worlds' tonight..?

[dedparrot Posted Jun 26th 2010 1:42PM]

@BenHemesath

I was wondering the same thing. Seeing awesome TF2 players is going to be.....er.....awesome!

[SolidSnake Posted Jun 26th 2010 1:59PM]

Hahaha. If you guys have steam accounts, add me: aromgbod

[TjK Posted Jun 26th 2010 3:44PM]

"...ya know, People say they love retina display..."

[maty Posted Jun 26th 2010 1:47PM]

Another Applecast from Engadget! 75% of it today!

Still, good work nonetheless! Listening on my Dell Streak :)

[Edobe Posted Jun 26th 2010 4:50PM]

@maty yes these applecasts are pretty entertaining. Especially the part were they claim not to be apple biased.

[E30 Kid Posted Jun 26th 2010 11:12PM]

@Edobe
It's funny when you claim that they are apple biased.

[Edobe Posted Jun 27th 2010 4:10AM]

@E30 Kid when did I say that XD

[derp Posted Jun 26th 2010 2:00PM]

Apple: Hold Different.

[good grief Posted Jun 26th 2010 2:04PM]

RSS?

[MowDownJoe Posted Jun 26th 2010 2:33PM]

@good grief Oh, you poor, ignorant fool. They NEVER update their RSS!

[andysexton Posted Jun 26th 2010 5:10PM]

@good grief Still not there. The mobile podcast last week took forever to get on the feed as well.

[drAndrew Posted Jun 27th 2010 12:07AM]

@good grief

Seriously, I can't listen to the podcast on Android without the RSS

Btw Engadget, mention Google Listen for podcasts on Android when someone asks

[MagnetMan Posted Jun 26th 2010 2:29PM]

Josh raises a good point regarding the lack of games on the Anrdoid smartphone. I think it's worth noting that the upcoming Unity 3D 3.0, a development platform behind a LOT of iPhone/iPad games, is being released for Android soon, which will allow developers to port their games and develop new games across both platforms simultaneously.

[MagnetMan Posted Jun 26th 2010 2:42PM]

@MagnetMan

Sorry, it's not being 'released' for android, but will be supporting android. Anyway, here's a link to the official press release:
http://unity3d.com/company/news/unity-unveils-3rd-generation-platform-press.html

[gschier Posted Jun 26th 2010 3:09PM]

@MagnetMan I sure hope android gets some better games soon. It's got all this good hardware and nothing to use it for.

[MagnetMan Posted Jun 26th 2010 3:18PM]

@gschier

Trust me, it's guaranteed. Unity 3D is the most licensed game creation engine for the iPhone and the engine behind many PC, Wii, XBox games as well. This is a big deal for the state of android gaming.

Though not really related to what I said above, watch this fun demo reel:
http://unity3d.com/gallery/

[The Advanced Kind Posted Jun 26th 2010 2:32PM]

It's interesting that whenever someone criticizes Engadget for sugar-coating the bad news about Apple, they get labeled as a crazy conspiracist.

I wonder how many of the main editors are strictly OSX users - further, I wonder whether being a strictly OSX user would result in an inherent bias towards Apple products. Just because you don't realize that you have a bias doesn't mean that you don't have one.

[DrTrent Posted Jun 28th 2010 12:47PM]

@The Advanced Kind

The writers of Engadget have opinions. No different than any other human being. Get over it.

[jagowar Posted Jun 28th 2010 2:43PM]

@The Advanced Kind agreed..... I thought it was kinda funny how josh went on a rant against the guy for the apple coverage when all he needs to do is look at the history and the number of apple posts compared to anything else. I don't have the numbers but subjectively I would bet apple has atleast 2x the number of postings compared to anything else (wp7 included which josh says they "blew out").

The bias is there (even if you don't mean for it to be there).

[jagowar Posted Jun 28th 2010 2:51PM]

@The Advanced Kind Also just look at the show notes for this podcast.... 15 posts on the iphone and 4 droid X posts (one post comparing them both) and 2 froyo posts.

You really want to claim one of those devices is being covered more than the other? And if you go back further almost every other podcast is like this.

Now I'm not saying its a bad thing to like the iproducts but don't say these products are getting equal coverage and rant against those that point this out.

[MagnetMan Posted Jun 26th 2010 2:38PM]

I disagree regarding the premise that apple chose the resolution 960x640 to leapfrog the competition.

It's more likely a decision to avoid fragmenting the market, as it's easier to pixel double to keep the UI and apps consistent.

Also, the gyroscope is not an apple innovation (though it wasn't stated as such), and a feature coming inevitable to the latest smartphones. Kudos to apple for getting it first and implementing APIs to take advantage of it.

[CJisohsocool Posted Jun 26th 2010 2:49PM]

Err. So is the iPhone 4's screen a warmer color or a colder color? Im confused lol

[MagnetMan Posted Jun 26th 2010 3:01PM]

To speak to the point in the podcast regarding android OS releases:

Google has already committed to yearly releases, and many of the OS features can be swapped out and replaced independently of the core OS. In this way, the browser, keyboard, APIs, etc, can be updated independently, which is a strategy that has worked well with PCs for quite some time.

The idea of a solitary OS running on many different system has been shown to work quite effectively with the desktop computer, and Android seems to be like this for the handset.

Android having to run on different hardware and specs, is a challenge that Apple does not have with a tightly controlled platform. However, the android engineering decisions seem to have surmounted many of the challenges with this scenario, and development can continue without worry of obsolescence.

[MagnetMan Posted Jun 26th 2010 3:16PM]

I think the problem with an iPad sized 'retina' display, is moving such a significant number of pixels with a mobile processor. In fact this is likely true with the pixel density of any modern phone (eg. Nexus One/MotoDroid).

At the iPhone4's 326ppi for a 9.7" screen is, the resolution would be 2529x1897 . Even at the Droids 265ppi, the resolution would be 2056x1542 .

Most desktop GPUs can't run resolutions like that at interactive rates.

[seesaw12 Posted Jun 26th 2010 4:47PM]

A 30 dollar piece of rubber that does nothing for your iPhone is acceptable but a 50 dollar HDMI cable that allows HD viewing on any HDMI input device is insane?

REALLY!?!

[safe travels Posted Jun 27th 2010 9:16AM]

@seesaw12
when did they say it was acceptable? get a grip.

[Matt314 Posted Jun 26th 2010 6:04PM]

Just btw: This reception problem is a big deal. The problem I have with this is that Engadget is mitigating this problem! Ya sure all phones have sensitive spots, but they are not located on the spot you are inevitably going to hold and they are not going to completely kill the reception just with your hand!

Apple is usually pretty good with quality, they f* up this time and, as always, they are not taking responsibility. Stop making this into a non-issue....

[mobilehavoc Posted Jun 26th 2010 7:11PM]

Please update your damn RSS, how hard can that be for a tech blog?

[EmotiveIcon Posted Jun 27th 2010 11:07AM]

+1

[Daki Posted Jun 27th 2010 5:03AM]

Come one!!, learn to update the rss link when you add a new episode.

[franchise Posted Jun 27th 2010 8:20AM]

You can download it to your phone by clicking the link provided. You don't need rss for Android.

[arbeck77 Posted Jun 27th 2010 11:35AM]

@franchise This is true. However, if you use google listen to queue up all your podcasts, the rss is needed.

[franchise Posted Jun 27th 2010 11:45AM]

I use Listen too, but I'm not so lazy that opening another app to listen to a podcast is a problem for me. Much better to complain about it instead I'm sure! :P

[arbeck77 Posted Jun 27th 2010 12:51PM]

@franchise I'm not too lazy either. But when it's every week I have to do it, it's kind of an issue.

[Invader Par Posted Jun 27th 2010 2:06PM]

Best intro ever!

[qwerty2k Posted Jun 27th 2010 2:18PM]

Why does it take so long for the podcast to appear on iTunes, the latest episode still isn't on there :(

[jonbruc Posted Jun 27th 2010 5:14PM]

@qwerty2k yea, I'm sorry I can't just be sitting in front of my computer when you Ustream the show, but I prefer getting a podcast the same week its taped.

[dav227 Posted Jun 27th 2010 9:21PM]

I'm also waiting for the iTunes upload. Is it always delayed this long?

[MrRadman11 Posted Jun 28th 2010 1:12AM]

Great podcast. I want the engadget app to have multitasking support for ios4 though. That would be awesome.

[Ivan006 Posted Jun 28th 2010 11:46AM]

Man, this was probably the funniest podcasts I've heard in a while. The whole Steve Jobs imitation near the end was hilarious. Keep up the good work guys.

[Hopper6 Posted Jun 28th 2010 12:50PM]

We did with the iPhone 4, and now you can watch HD porn on the iPod Touch with this magical screen