Life and death of Microsoft Kin: the inside story
Since our piece on Wednesday, we've had more trusted sources step forward to fill in some blanks and clarify the story behind the amazingly swift fall from grace that Microsoft's Kin phones have experienced since their launch just a few weeks ago. It's a fascinating tale, and we wanted to share everything we've learned.
Project Pink -- the initiative that would ultimately become Kin -- began life under the direction of free-spirited exec J Allard even before Microsoft had acquired Danger in early 2008, though the company knew full well that it would ultimately need Danger's cloud computing expertise to execute on the vision. As it turns out, Danger's intellectual property was more important to Microsoft than its manpower, which might go a long way toward explaining stories we've heard in the past of Danger's Palo Alto headquarters looking like a ghost town not long after the purchase. Initially, both ODMs and carriers were tripping over each other for the opportunity to be involved and launch the product; ultimately, Sharp and Verizon were selected as the headline partners. Knowing Allard and his track record, the vision was probably grandiose and easy to fall in love with -- and needless to say, no one had been quoting a mid-2010 launch back then.
So with Danger filling in the last piece of the puzzle, Allard and his team got underway, completely separate from the Windows Phone (née Windows Mobile) team led by senior vice president Andy Lees. Bear in mind this was before the so-called "reboot" that led to the Windows Phone 7 that we know today; at that point, Microsoft was still cranking on an older vision that would ultimately be scrapped. Whether the initial plan in Pink's earliest days was to use Danger's legacy Java-based platform is unclear, but apparently, that plan ultimately evolved: Allard's intention had still been to avoid Windows Mobile's underpinnings, but he'd wanted to pull together bits and pieces from across the company -- presumably mostly from Zune, which was his baby -- to create a new Kin platform that suited the product's needs, not to share a platform with anything in Lees' department.
To get anywhere, a project inside Microsoft needs an executive sponsor, and for Pink, Allard had been that guy from day one. It was his baby. Of course, Allard was a visionary, an idea man; Lees -- like most Microsoft execs -- is a no-nonsense numbers guy, and to put it bluntly, he didn't like that Pink existed. To quote our sources, Lees was "jealous," and he was likely concerned that Kin was pulling mindshare (and presumably resources) from Windows Mobile's roadmap. With enough pressure, Lees ended up getting his way; Pink fell under his charge and Allard was forced into the background.
Having Lees in control changed everything, if for no other reason than he didn't care about the project at all. This was right around the time that Windows Phone 7 was rebooting, and Pink didn't fit in his game plan; to him, it was little more than a contractual obligation to Verizon, a delivery deadline that needed to be met. Pink -- Allard's vision of it, anyhow -- was re-scoped, retooled, and forced onto a more standardized core that better fit in with the Windows Phone roadmap, which in turn pushed back the release date. Ironically, because they had to branch off so early, Kin would ultimately end up with an operating system that shares very little with the release version of Windows Phone 7 anyway.
At some point prior to launch, the Kin team knew it was screwed. We've confirmed that Verizon did, in fact, pull the rug out from under them -- the planned data pricing had changed and become much more expensive, which was supposed to be one of Kin's top selling points. Voices on the team about huge, critical missing features like an app store fell on deaf ears, ostensibly because Lees just wanted to get the product out the door to meet the contract and wash his hands of it. The departures of Allard and Bach -- which our sources would not blame on Kin, at least not alone -- were just what Lees needed to finish Kin off, and that's exactly what he did earlier this week. We're told that Kin has sold fewer than 10,000 units in total, and the future of its support -- planned software updates and the like -- rests largely in Verizon's hands, since it's the one and only carrier that will ever have offered it.
While it's hard to argue that Kin is an awful product, the saddest part of the story is that many of the people responsible for it knew it was -- they were largely victims of political circumstance, forced to release a phone that was practically raw in the middle. Though Microsoft's official stance is that the group is being integrated with the Windows Phone 7 team, it's a major culture clash -- the two groups operated completely independently from one another -- and unofficially, Lees' intention is to keep them out of the first release. In other words, many, if not most Kin staffers are literally twiddling their thumbs at their desks, and it's unclear who will get to keep their jobs in the long term. No decisions have yet been made about what elements of Kin will find their way into future Windows Phone releases; though Kin One and Kin Two were fatally flawed, there's no arguing that they'd brought some really great concepts to the table (notably the Kin Studio) that it'd be tragic to see fall through the cracks of a Microsoft conference room.
Project Pink -- the initiative that would ultimately become Kin -- began life under the direction of free-spirited exec J Allard even before Microsoft had acquired Danger in early 2008, though the company knew full well that it would ultimately need Danger's cloud computing expertise to execute on the vision. As it turns out, Danger's intellectual property was more important to Microsoft than its manpower, which might go a long way toward explaining stories we've heard in the past of Danger's Palo Alto headquarters looking like a ghost town not long after the purchase. Initially, both ODMs and carriers were tripping over each other for the opportunity to be involved and launch the product; ultimately, Sharp and Verizon were selected as the headline partners. Knowing Allard and his track record, the vision was probably grandiose and easy to fall in love with -- and needless to say, no one had been quoting a mid-2010 launch back then.
So with Danger filling in the last piece of the puzzle, Allard and his team got underway, completely separate from the Windows Phone (née Windows Mobile) team led by senior vice president Andy Lees. Bear in mind this was before the so-called "reboot" that led to the Windows Phone 7 that we know today; at that point, Microsoft was still cranking on an older vision that would ultimately be scrapped. Whether the initial plan in Pink's earliest days was to use Danger's legacy Java-based platform is unclear, but apparently, that plan ultimately evolved: Allard's intention had still been to avoid Windows Mobile's underpinnings, but he'd wanted to pull together bits and pieces from across the company -- presumably mostly from Zune, which was his baby -- to create a new Kin platform that suited the product's needs, not to share a platform with anything in Lees' department.
To get anywhere, a project inside Microsoft needs an executive sponsor, and for Pink, Allard had been that guy from day one. It was his baby. Of course, Allard was a visionary, an idea man; Lees -- like most Microsoft execs -- is a no-nonsense numbers guy, and to put it bluntly, he didn't like that Pink existed. To quote our sources, Lees was "jealous," and he was likely concerned that Kin was pulling mindshare (and presumably resources) from Windows Mobile's roadmap. With enough pressure, Lees ended up getting his way; Pink fell under his charge and Allard was forced into the background.
Having Lees in control changed everything, if for no other reason than he didn't care about the project at all. |
At some point prior to launch, the Kin team knew it was screwed. We've confirmed that Verizon did, in fact, pull the rug out from under them -- the planned data pricing had changed and become much more expensive, which was supposed to be one of Kin's top selling points. Voices on the team about huge, critical missing features like an app store fell on deaf ears, ostensibly because Lees just wanted to get the product out the door to meet the contract and wash his hands of it. The departures of Allard and Bach -- which our sources would not blame on Kin, at least not alone -- were just what Lees needed to finish Kin off, and that's exactly what he did earlier this week. We're told that Kin has sold fewer than 10,000 units in total, and the future of its support -- planned software updates and the like -- rests largely in Verizon's hands, since it's the one and only carrier that will ever have offered it.
While it's hard to argue that Kin is an awful product, the saddest part of the story is that many of the people responsible for it knew it was -- they were largely victims of political circumstance, forced to release a phone that was practically raw in the middle. Though Microsoft's official stance is that the group is being integrated with the Windows Phone 7 team, it's a major culture clash -- the two groups operated completely independently from one another -- and unofficially, Lees' intention is to keep them out of the first release. In other words, many, if not most Kin staffers are literally twiddling their thumbs at their desks, and it's unclear who will get to keep their jobs in the long term. No decisions have yet been made about what elements of Kin will find their way into future Windows Phone releases; though Kin One and Kin Two were fatally flawed, there's no arguing that they'd brought some really great concepts to the table (notably the Kin Studio) that it'd be tragic to see fall through the cracks of a Microsoft conference room.


























Poor thing.
@bob1000
Indeed. This could have been something very, very different and even good if it was executed better -- and finished earlier.
The competition outclassed it consistently at release.
@bob1000
Stupid concept, followed with lame marketing and poor execution = FAIL.
@statickeith What the? That's the resolution of my 4630z. Is this really possible?
@N900 Check out the link. Its up on Gizmodo.
@statickeith That HD3 thing is a months-old fan mockup. Not real.
@statickeith
it's not real: http://www.wmexperts.com/wp7-rumor-htc-hd3
@mosammey Could be. But its existence or non-existence isnt confirmed. So IF they make this device and IF WP7 is a good OS, it might just be a killer
@statickeith
fake. just looking at the specs makes u scream fake. And anyway if MS really want WP7 to succeed they need some really good 3.7 inch phones. Anything above 4 inches is not for the average consumer.
and yeah i know.. thats what she said. so just save it.
@bob1000
You read the whole thing in a minute? Oh wait, you probably wanted to be first, poor thing...
who cares how good the phone is with that ugly front end on it?
every bit as lame as kin
they should call the phone Oblivion
@bob1000 The Kin is dead, long live the Kin...ect
@d0mth0ma5 www.kinrip.com
@statickeith eh, 4.5'' is a bit too big, IMO. 4.3 is the limit, 4.0 is the best screen size.
@bob1000
i fucking hate politics in the workplace, especially when asshats like Lees are more interested in stoking their ego, then a good product actually be released by their company. "if a good product gets released by my company, and my name isn't attached to it, its a win for MS, but more importantly a lose for me" can't stand people like this.
@simbadogg
Amen. I was thinking the same thing. I've seen kindergarteners be more mature and less moronic.
@bob1000
It's kind of sad, especially that ugly square monstrosity of a phone. Let us all listen to the "Life and Death" theme from lost as we read the story of the death of kin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hre5fkdq-0
To live and die, to try and fail. But life will go on, and so will microsofts phone ambitions.
Never liked the Kin but I don't like what Verizon did either so I hold them responsible too. They pretty much got their panties in a bunch, and jacked up the data price. That pretty much shot it in the face while it was on life support.
@bob1000 Totally agreed. look at something like the LG rugby series on AT&T. AT&T has is right on dumbphone date pricing. as it stands the kin is a dumbphone and should be treated as such. As tech geeks we don't compare the netbooks to the 17" desktop replacements. and from a hardware standpoint it outperforms the 3gS, if this phone relaesed a year ago (or even in time for Christmas 2009), with at least a $15 drop in monthly fees, its a complete success. As a current HD2 user, I could see myself purchasing one of these phones last fall.
@d0mth0ma5 I'm not sure it is dead because on Kin's twitter account they posted that they wont be launching it in europe but will continue to sell the kin in the U.S. and will continue to support Verizon.
@Plazmic Flame
I think that's a huge point. A device like this needed to be offered at a lower monthly price point. Plain and simple. Even if it was amazing the target demographic (tweeners) typically don't have the capital (or parents who want) to commit to an $80-100/month plan.
I'll say it again. Had this phone been introduced with a $10/month data plan it would have worked. Despite the deficiencies the Kin does serve a particular demographic. Most of the major deficiencies are things that could have been solved with software updates. The core concept was perfectly fine.
It's really no different than Lexus designing a car for 16 YO's. They could include all the features. They could have every component that a 16 YO would want but still ultimately fail because not many 16 YO kids can afford $40-60k cars.
@Indefinite Implosion
imho Apple is just a one man show. I dont think its gonna be the same company after Steve Jobs. But MS on the other hand did survive after Bill Gates. Granted the Kin was a failure, but the past year has been gr8 for MS. Just look at W7, Office 2010, Kinect and the soon to arrive WP7.
@ssguy
True very true. It is alarming to note that the same brilliant folks at Apple who designed the iPod, iPhone and iPad were designing beige boxes before Steve Jobs rejoined Apple. So once he leaves, things are gonna downhill (and so is the stock) coz even though there are other brilliant folks at Apple, nobody has Jobs vision - they cant, coz you have to be born with it.
@bjsguess Think about it tho I'm sure verizon did that on purpose, wouldn't u be pissed you signed on to a project because of the person behind it and his track record, come release time you find out not only has he been sidelined but he's been shoehorned out of the project altogether and you wind up with some piece of shit phone some other jackass made.
@bob1000 This Lees guy needs to be fired. NOW.
@bob1000 Fascinating. Pardon my French, but this is just f***ed up office politic BS, man. Given the stuff that I think Kin, even in its current hamstrung form, executed well on, I would have liked to see what Allard's fully realized, properly executed vision would have been.
@bob1000
Honestly, is Microsoft really better off having a fractured smartphone lineup, not only with multiple devices but multiple platforms? Part of the reason for Apple's success its its focus. There is only ONE iPhone (well okay, maybe a few more, but you get the point). Instead of wasting time by having separate teams design completely different phones, they can focus on producing ONE really good phone. Personally I would rather see Windows Phone 7 succeed than see both Kin and Windows Phone 7 fail.
@ssguy Actually, I have a HD2 and from the frustration of not being able to updare to WP7 I called HTC, the rep actually went ahead and tolled me that HTC was working on a different version of the HD2 for the WP7, so lets not call it a fake just yet, I have a case number and the copied email to prove it. About your comment on 3.7 inch screens friend please, you just say that because you don't own a 4.3 inch screen phone it's experience changing. The average user wants a screen where your fingers don't type the wrong key because the buttons are too small, they want a phone that they can use to watch movies, and show their pictures. For all the reasons above a 4.3 to 4.5 inch AMOLED would be the perfect form factor for the average user. regardless I don't think it makes sense to say this size fits all moto anyway, That's is why I think WP7 will be able to surpass the competition, better platform, large variety of phones, great business and word processor solutions, awesome gaming, cloud storage for media, and app store. I am unsure if all this can be put together. I still think that even though the kin is gone the kin studio app its an excellent idea for WP7 though.
@tybert7 damn good call on the music
@hypo3400
I dunno... There was totally a market for a feature phone with social networking. I totally see Allard's vision and it could have been a huge success... Again, Teenagers and even most College students can't afford 80$/month cell phone plans. If it would have been released earlier (like Allard planned to) Verizon wouldn't have jacked the data plan and made the thing fail... I don't blame Verizon too much. If you're stood up for a full year or even more, I would be pissed at the Asshole (Lees) that caused the holdup and would have balked too...
@Indefinite Implosion
I can't really agree on that, it took Apple three years+ to add folders.
I guess you could say that it supports new ideas so much that it completely ignores the old ones.
@bob1000 It was deformed at birth. Better to let it die quickly than have it live a worthless, painful life.
@Indefinite Implosion "THAT is why Apple is becoming more and more successful, because they encourage, not stifle, new ideas and products."
Don't worry, Microsoft got the message:
http://news.cnet.com/2300-13860_3-10003932.html
@ssguy
You have limited thinking here. Phones are becoming about one thing : convergence.
In ordet for all the media possibilities, screens by default will have to grow, to provide thee best user experience.
Your comment is stupid..."..not for the average consumer..." That's what they said about computers.
And people have already.proven they will carry slightly larger phones; just look to the past when those monster phones were everywhere, and THEY could only make calls.
@bob1000
I guess Windows Phone 7 is now officially "The Next Of Kin"
@bob1000
The problem with starting dumbed-down from the beginning is it becomes increasing difficult to add more things in the future. However, if you take a fully developed super smart phone, it is easier to dumb it down and change features accordingly for various devices. They took a backwards approach to this. If they had taken a finished Windows Phone 7 and made an "Essentials" version of Windows Phone 7 called for basic phones like "Kin", there would have probably been drasticly different results.
@TinWard Went to that link... All I read was "Hurp der durpity convergient synergy dur durp this is something people will pay for! Durp herpity dynamic immersive cloud convergent quality everyone will have a webcam by 2012, so let's make it required."
Someone please tell me this some kind of dry, unfunny joke.
@tybert7 "...microsofts phone ambitions."
Now THAT'S sad.
Poor little Kin. It was such a cute phone.
@TheMichaelJackson Good Night. Sweet Prince. 2010 - 2010.
@TheMichaelJackson
http://kinrip.com/
@TheMichaelJackson
If they put some sort of fruity logo on it then it could sell millions.
This looked like a fail from the start, It's as simple as that.
@One Love Not if it had a cheap data plan.
@One Love
The Kin was a great concept, but ultimately priced too high. Costs more than a Curve and has the same data plan to boot with less capabilities. As a feature phone this would of been a hit (not everyone wants a smartphone), and packing a Tegra it certainly wasn't a gimp.
I hope the Kin Studio is integrated into WP7, that would be lovely as well as the Spot.
If only they put this into releasing WP7 sooner.
Someone needs to kick Andy Lees in the balls
@cesium
Yeah, I'm with you, whats wrong with Microsoft, how the afford to lose great talent like J. Allard and Robbie Bach and keep morrons like Ballmer and Lees.
I just dont get it.
Where are you Bill?
@cesium
Why? Allard has produced a string of failures.
@Alex
I'd hardly consider the Xbox a failure. And it was almost entirely J Allard's doing. Also, while the Zune hasn't had iPod-level success (and really, what else has?), it's sold moderately well and is very well designed and implemented.
@cesium Seriously. That was the first thing I thought after reading the article.