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The Daily Grind: National pride?

One of the things that gets some of us about PvP hype are the claims that "you'll be saving your nation/faction/etc!" Tobold, however, joined the "meh" camp the other day with an excellent post about Nationalism in MMORPGs. To give my personal example, if the Scryers and the Aldor in World of Warcraft started going at it in the middle of Shattrath, the only thing that would interest me about any "faction fighting" would be if my side could take control of Scryer's rise in the end. (I hate the drop off the Aldor tier; it means instant death if you miss the elevator.) Beyond that, as long as the bank and flight path NPCs are unharmed, and the portals are still open, I could honestly care less. While some of our staff admit to feeling a connection with the Horde or the Alliance, it almost always seems to come down to the people we know in the end. Tobold posits that this is due to the Dunbar number -- we're just not wired to trust an entire nation worth of people. Also, as he points out, there's always the fact that no matter how bad you trash things, it always respawns eventually; there is just no permanent damage to a site or a "nation" in these battles.

Today we thought we'd spin off this concept and ask what your thoughts were on it -- do you think it's possible to really have a game developer get you energized about defending a "nation" or does it also come back to the people you know too? Is it less about defending NPCs/any given location, or is it more about having fun kicking the other side's butt? Do you really care if your city if being attacked when you know that eventually control will be returned to your side? Is there really any such thing as a national pride in MMOs for you?