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Cataclysm Beta: Select guild raid achievement requirements reduced

I admit it. I'm an achievement-holic. I'll repeat the most idiotic, mind-numbing task for hours on end just to earn a handful of achievement points. It doesn't matter that I can't do anything with those points. I want them. I need them. And I know I'm not alone in my obsession -- some people play World of Warcraft just for the achievements. (You know who you are.)

Once Cataclysm launches, there will be a whole new set of achievements just for guilds, only compounding my poor, crippling obsession. A metric ton of them are for completing old instances and raids as a guild, and grabbing those points requires 80 percent guild participation. Under the guidelines laid out earlier in September, that meant you'd need to take along at least 20 guildies to conquer Serpentshrine Cavern (a BC 25-man), even if you could easily complete it with fewer.

Well, for those of us who are obsessed with collecting achievement points, there's good news -- Blizzard just cut the required participation rate for all the old school Burning Crusade raids. On the official forums, blue poster Mumper confirmed that they're treating all old 25-man raids as 10-mans -- instead of needing 20 guildies to take on Lady Vashj and Kil'jaeden, you will now only need 8.

The full blue post is after the break.



Re: Guild achievements for classic dungeons/raids
We just made a change to all of the old 25 player raids that allows guild achievements to be completed as if they were a 10 player raid. This means you will only need 8/10 instead of 20/25.

Get hyped. =)


The change really only applies to Burning Crusade raids like Serpentshrine Cavern, since those are the only 25-man raids currently in the game without a 10-man version. This move follows what Blizzard already did for 40-man raids like Molten Core, which similarly only require eight guild members for the achievement.

The news is especially good news for smaller guilds, who may have a lot of trouble herding a large number of players into an old-school raid that offers little reward beyond achievement points. And since most of these older 25-man and 40-man raids can be run with far fewer than 20 people, the high requirement was nothing but a burden, anyway.


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