Vista SP1, SP1 toilet paper hit japan
By Ryan Block 
posted Mar 16th 2008 1:13PM
posted Mar 16th 2008 1:13PM
[Thanks, kaztm]
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Nice flaimbait, Block.
If only we could give stories a Lowest Rank.
Ryan Block and Nilay Patel are my favorite bloggers here IMO.
Let me guess Mushrooshi- you like Apple/hate microsoft, right?
Anyone who gets worked up over this post loves their respective OS just a little too much.
Obvious, but lolsome nonetheless.
So, what if it wants to update in the middle of a wipe? O.o
" REFORMATTING ARSE. PLEASE WAIT...
SECURITY WALL UPDATE ATTACHED. CLEANSING MECHANISM TERMINATED. PLEASE STANDBY... " then all of a sudden the toilet paper turns blue with the shame of a BSOD
:P
ROFL!
If I buy 24 rolls, will I get a discount coupon for the Mac toilet roll holder??
does the toilet paper fix my low "transfer" speeds? *nudge nudge
Haha, oh that's totally lol, took me a second after I read it.
That's awesome. Finally a way I can actually learn about the "features" of Vista.
"You kind of have to feel a little bad for Vista -- it just keeps getting crapped on these days."
HAHA!!!
But japan is a bit silly...
I always laugh when people say ''XP is the best, Vista blows'' without anything to back it up - especially when they're the same people who wouldn't touch XP for the first 2-3years of its life.
You know, maybe people said that because XP was unstable, buggy, resource hungry and poorly supported until around the time SP2 came out - I personally didn't adopt XP until several years after its release.
Now it's well supported, industry standard and computer technology has caught up enough to make sure it's not system hungry on most computers, something Vista has yet to do.
In 3 or 4 years time, it probably won't have those problems. For now, it's still pretty rubbish.
xp ran awesome for me right off the bat. vista also runs very good for me right now....but then again, i know how to use it. oh well, to each their own. and if people complaining about somethin just because they don't know how to use it gives them somethin to do, then more power to em.
I disagree entirely XP was fine upon release. Poor driver support, driver conflicts (handled those issues a lot), crashed a lot, security holes, and again, very resource hungry, especially when computer manufacturers were installing it on PCs with 128MB of RAM and crap like that.
And as for not knowing how to use it, if it's been released for a week, anyone who works in support hasn't excatly had 5 years to learn about it have they? Support gets better as a product matures. And a lot of OEMs (I know, I worked for one) didn't develop drivers until it was released, which meant a 6 month wait before you can copy your music onto your mobile phone. Remember all those web pages that looked like this?: http://sonyericsson.com/vista
Anyone who adopted Vista early was a dork; it was expensive, made your machine go slower and heaps of stuff didn't run on it! Early adopters should KNOW and ACCEPT that, and it's only because of knowing that I'm not one of those people.
Well I'm a dork then : A dork who checked to see if all my software/hardware was supported - and was. I've been running Vista Ultimate since day 1. I was able to get an OEM copy, not a retail - and I did not pay much because of connections. Not everyone has that opportunity of course.
My point is how quickly people forget. I work in IT and previously in sales. It's the hardcore (or wannabe) computer geeks that claim (insert any product here) is junk because they don't know enough about it. Those who are NOT hardcore users are then forced to believe it.
What did I tell my Vista buyers? If you're starting fresh - don't worry, because you're not going to experience the ''problems'' that are out there. If you have a back-catalog of legacy hardware and software to support, yea, you should wait, or do a lot of research first. Today, if you're starting mostly fresh, you'd be hard pressed to have any initial problems unless the system itself has a hardware defect.
The most opinionated or usually the least informed or least qualified on the subject. This is not a stab at anyone here who has a different opinion, you're welcome to it.
i was referrin to vista itself not sp1. if you turn off all the features you don't need, then vista runs fine. if vista doesn't support drivers that you need for your computer, then you shouldn't be trying to run vista on that computer. the only reason i have vista though is cause it came on the laptop i bought, not because i chose it.
i'm sure some people had trouble with xp when it first came out, but i was using it since beta stages, and once the final version came out, it ran very nicely for me. i never had problems with driver conflicts or anything like that with it n if i did it was always an easy fix. i believe i had more than 128mb of ram though even back then so i can't really comment on it's resource hungriness.
and yes, i am a dork. i've accepted that n moved on. also i don't really care if people like windows or not, i just like startin beef n givin people somethin to be angry about. :)
I know, I've been using Vista for quite some time now, and the only issue I've had, or seen anyone else have for that matter, was my little brother's USB-based guitar. Even though it said it was Vista compatible, it wasn't, so I just set up a dual-booting XP/Vista system for him. Took about 20 minutes (for some reason, XP actually installed much faster than usual), and everything was fine. If people would just use the upgrade advisor like I did, we'd have a lot fewer complaints.
@Mwmphis: "If you're starting fresh - don't worry, because you're not going to experience the ''problems'' that are out there."
I started "fresh" and had no real problems on one system (Dell Optiplex) and hat lots of problems on another (Dell Laptop) I have been using commercial OS's since 1985, or there abouts, DOS, Windows 3, WFW, Windows 95, 98, Me, NT 3.51, NT 4.0, 2000, XP and Vista, not to mention 4 or 5 different flavors of UNIX (SCO, Sun, BSD, AIX, etx.). With the exception of Me, Vista is the worst Windows experience I've ever encountered, given the state of the art (I.E. you can't really compare Window 3.1 to Vista). Vista doesn't do anything for the user that XP doesn't do, and it does it slower, using more resources, and in a seemingly arbitrarily different manner than XP/2000. Is Vista that bad? No, not really. Is it any better than XP? No, not really. Is it worth the extra costs to get the same level of performance from Vista that you can get from XP? No, it's not. I've ordered the last 2 machines for my house with XP, and I can tell you that I am a happier camper for it. XP doesn't get in my way like Vista does. I spend about 12 hours a day on my various systems, and I can tell you flat out that I will not be getting any more Vista machines. If need be I'll just build my own and install XP. I'll look at upgrades in the future if Microsoft gets it right with SP2 or Windows 7.
Only reason I haven't switched to Vista yet is because frankly I see no need to at this point except for the aesthetic improvements, which I really do like. Also being a gamer it has obviously been proving high end gaming performance takes a performance hit in Vista. Every game running on both platforms ran slower in terms of fps in Vista. Now being that my computer is mid-range and I don't have $700 to buy the top of the line SLI video cards I think I can benefit from all the performance and FPS I can get with one 8800 GT as I don't want my games being choppy. I also like the super fast boot up times and fast performance I have right now (after tweaking xp), which would be slowed somewhat if I installed vista, even though I exceed all requirements. (Core Duo overclocked at 3.2ghz,8800gt, 3gb ram,etc) Why upgrade now? Theres nothing wrong with Vista, I think It's great and have it on my secondary PC , but as of right now theres not too much reason to upgrade. So please don't shove it down peoples throats like it's the second coming.
My laptop came with Vista, which munches through RAM, hard drive space, has badly configured security options, not all of my hardware is compatible, uses 10GB of my hard drive and isn't neccessary. It does nothing to improve my overall experience, costs more, is slower... Why would I want it? Why on earth?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_and_safety_features_new_to_Windows_Vista
The security enhances and changes alone are worth the upgrade to Vista; much more thorough and evolved than a simple Mac commercial would lead you to believe.
@scareyj: Windows asking the user "if they really want to" every time it thinks there *might* be a problem is not good security. As someone mentioned above, to get Vista to run well, turn that stuff off. What is the point paying for additional features that I'm just going to turn off anyway?
I'd be concerned w/ using that toilet paper... It might be incompatible w/ my ass after taking a dump which would really leave me SOL.
Yeah you might end up with the "Red Ring of Death" lol
aHAHAHAHA james you just made my week
Comedy Gold!
You deserve it Vista.
Hey, aren't we still awaiting YOUR operating system to be released?
Nice false dilemma there, Raheem. Obviously the only possible choices are to love Vista or to make a new, superior OS.
I knew someone like you, MEAT! would look past the humour and try to create some kind of consumer issue.
Raheem, Ubuntu Hardy will be out /very/ soon. I'm using it now.
...I don't 'wait'. I alpha test.
Don't get it.
"You kind of have to feel a little bad for Vista -- it just keeps getting crapped on these days."
I know, Ryan, and it doesn't deserve it all.
That was a terrible joke.
hey Ryan i was just wondering if you ever found that kid who never got the XBOX360 ?
Finally...you can really shove Vista up your candy ass!!!
Fitting...
A roll of TP wants to access your anus, Allow|Cancel?
hahahaa
you're my hero Evan!
who tf is evan..?
This is real news. Wow judging from the various (3) ipod "news" stories yesterday and today this, It's starting to seam a bit like Engadget has little something for apple products. Probably is nothing.
Keep in mind this is a blog people ... last time i checked the 1st amendment handed been suspended ... get off Ryan's back people.
Vista is doing fine ... every time we have a new version of windows there is always bugs and mostly LACK of 3rd party support. 3rd party stuff is what got most of the Vista flaming going and that's finally been taking care of for the most part.
Most people i know who use Vista actually like it. SP1 improves over all speed of the o/s a little which is good.
YAWN at all the anti-vista rants. It's here ... it's the number 2 best selling o/s EVER coming in right behind XP.
Your constitution is no good on the internets. Specifically because I'm from the United Kingdom, and Block is guilty of Vistacide. I sentence him to two years in Her Majesty's Sex Dungeon.
"Keep in mind this is a blog people ... last time i checked the 1st amendment handed been suspended ... get off Ryan's back people."
Thats the great thing about the first amendment ... it not only protects Ryan but ALSO the people who don't like his comments.
The story after this one proves your point! A RUMOR of a Airport Express update. Wow!
Censorship FTW!
You've never been to a site where the comments / posts are moderated? Please.
Ryan, I can understand deleting comments because they're offensive, but because he commented on the number of negative MS / positive Apple posts? That's a hallmark of Engadget.
While I really think Vista sucks - I think they'd have a better seller if they made some with pictures of Ballmer and his flop sweat on it or if they came out with yernal cakes with his image on it.
Mind you I'm not an MS hater - I just think that Vista was a huge let down which hopefully they won't repeat with Windows 7 - however I think they'll need to replace Ballmer with someone who can actually listen. Everytime anyone wants to discuss any of the issues with Ballmer, he ignores the question and just says - big deal we sold a lot of copies of Vista and that is all that matters.
Quite the great comment indeed!
That was awesome. The best comment ever.
It must be tough being Ryan Block. You just can't win.
Doesn't look like it would be very 'kind to your behind'. Just looks like standard paper. prepare to receive paper-cuts in places you never imagined.
dude, i love you. everybody else is ranting about vista or xp, and you comment on how nice the toilet paper looks. we need more people like you on this earth.
ba-dump chish.
Finally something that Vista does well. Looks like they installed it on the right product. Too bad it would cost $400 a roll due to licensing for the "Ultimate" TP.
You have to wonder how the M$ marketing team thought of this. They were probably in a meeting and one of them said they have to go take a dump and another genius said "Lets put vista on the toilet paper".
I wonder what happens when you get the blue screen of death?
You look for the correct drivers and stop whining?
How many drivers does my ass need?
12... The answer Andrew is 12...
Wow.
Well, I dumped XP for something a little more... Human... about 8 months ago.
And except for a few specific circumstances, I'd recommend everyone else do the same.
ethana2@gmail.com ~the usual, unlimited free support for people looking to migrate.
Wow, that's got to be a new record.
Japanese ingenuity.
At least this way, some people may get some enjoyment out of vista.
The probably pirated copy of Windows in the corner is a nice touch.
finally, a case of good product placement!
Please Engadget, be just a little more biased. Please?
Sorry MS, I wouldn't wipe my *ahem* with that.
12... The answer Andrew is 12...
Man, if only I had thought of that when I was attending the annual Steve Jobs Fan club meeting last week.
I'm guessing that this isn't as weird in Japan...
Hmm nice.. One more step by engadget to be more like gizmodo.. Reporting crap news. I am so close to stop reading this stupid rant of criticize vista whenever u get a chance. I am using Mac OS leopard too ., trust aint any better .. Ryan pls stop!!
I trust you on that. Compiz owns you /all/.
..and firefox3b4 performs better than the latest safari too.
Ubuntu FTW
Are you guys saying that No More Heroes was supposed to be utter crap also, since the devs used toilet paper to promote it also? I just think Japan has some really weird marketing techniques...or they have a shortage of TP.
At least the paper is worth something
How many rolls for the english version?
Are sundays really this slow *YAWN* the vista jokes are getting old.
How about some iPhone/expensive jokes instead ?
A man walks into a phone shop and says to the agent i want the best phone in here but since i use a huge amount minutes and texts every month I'd like it to be free like my last phone.
Well says the agent I have the new Apple iPhone here and it's only available with a large monthly contract of £35, £45 or £75 pounds a month but you will also have to pay £269 for the basic model.
*Oh wait that isn't funny*
LOL sums up my reaction.
Damn Mtirv, I didn't make the toilet paper! Read the post -- the whole joke is based around the fact that Vista gets a really bad rap.
I just arrived here in Japan last night (3 city tour to show local IT how we are doing our Vista deployment) and I will be sure to see if I can find this while I'm here!
it's mean to damn people...
excuse me while I Service Pack 1 myself.
Well Done Sir.....Well Done
ryan, he's an ohio state fan. don't mind him.
@ Ryan
Ha... they love to beat you up don't they? :D
Well they can just take that and cram it up their... Oh, wait... you mean they want to? Japan is Weird, and weird is awesome, so japan = teh Awesome!
Yeah, and let's have a little empathy for Hitler 'cause history has made him out to be such a monster...
Its the Window's users that should feel the sting. You bought a new machine and have supported Gate's organization for years... and this is what he does for you? Sour grapes are certainly in order!
It's a visual joke about Vista SP1. There was an article here a week ago about the Mac Computer Toilet Paper Dispenser. It was just a fun project. Why don't you people laugh it up instead of getting all angry and defensive. Both Apple and Microsoft have to take some abuse from time to time. It should be all in good fun. Is Engadget really that biased against Microsoft? Probably not.
It's not Apple lovers that are giving Vista a bad rap. Even Microsoft-entrenched IT is holding off on installations of Vista. Not necessarily because it's bad, but because they'd probably have to upgrade a lot of hardware to run Vista properly and WinXP is definitely still usable.
Listen, I just wanted to jump in here and say a couple things.
Maybe Vista doesn't suck for you, or you, or you either, but it sucks for a lot of other people.
The real point here is... There's no reason to upgrade to Vista, unless you bought a game specifically for DX10 there's nothing Vista has to offer to a consumer along the lines of productivity.
Yes, it looks good, some of you love Superfetch, but there's no real reason to spend $100 or so dollars for it.
Just my two cents.
you would say the same of a cubs fan wouldn't you?
:)
Seriously? Quit your whining. There are a billion more Apple stories because Apple makes a billion more interesting moves every day. What has Microsoft done lately that is truly worth journalizing? Honestly. Apple products just have more everyday appeal.
haha.
The thing is if you give Vista a chance, it's pretty good. though driver problems are always there as well.
@ Darkest Daze
Wouldn't it be an overabundance of toilet paper?
Dear Bill Gates:
The truth hurts. Especially when you have hemorrhoids. Wipe gently.
Love,
A Recovering Vista User
I wonder if this will fix the "long goodbye" issue?