Vista SP1, SP1 toilet paper hit japan

The Japanese are hyping Vista SP1's impending release, but a roll of toilet paper printed with highlighted features is kind of uncalled for. You kind of have to feel a little bad for Vista -- it just keeps getting crapped on these days.

[Thanks, kaztm]

[fred @ Mar 16th 2008 1:24PM]

Nice flaimbait, Block.

If only we could give stories a Lowest Rank.

[mushrooshi @ Mar 16th 2008 5:03PM]

Ryan Block and Nilay Patel are my favorite bloggers here IMO.

[JD @ Mar 16th 2008 5:57PM]

Let me guess Mushrooshi- you like Apple/hate microsoft, right?

[CraigJ @ Mar 16th 2008 9:26PM]

Anyone who gets worked up over this post loves their respective OS just a little too much.

[Liam @ Mar 16th 2008 1:18PM]

Obvious, but lolsome nonetheless.

[Blackstar @ Mar 16th 2008 6:02PM]

So, what if it wants to update in the middle of a wipe? O.o

[CUBSWILLWIN @ Mar 16th 2008 7:21PM]

" REFORMATTING ARSE. PLEASE WAIT...
SECURITY WALL UPDATE ATTACHED. CLEANSING MECHANISM TERMINATED. PLEASE STANDBY... " then all of a sudden the toilet paper turns blue with the shame of a BSOD
:P

[slowerpig81 @ Mar 16th 2008 10:04PM]

ROFL!

[Homeboy @ Mar 16th 2008 1:20PM]

If I buy 24 rolls, will I get a discount coupon for the Mac toilet roll holder??

[asphixiated @ Mar 16th 2008 1:20PM]

does the toilet paper fix my low "transfer" speeds? *nudge nudge

[MikeG @ Mar 16th 2008 9:12PM]

Haha, oh that's totally lol, took me a second after I read it.

[dukemang @ Mar 16th 2008 1:22PM]

That's awesome. Finally a way I can actually learn about the "features" of Vista.

[Adam @ Mar 16th 2008 1:23PM]

"You kind of have to feel a little bad for Vista -- it just keeps getting crapped on these days."
HAHA!!!
But japan is a bit silly...

[MemphisNET @ Mar 16th 2008 1:26PM]

I always laugh when people say ''XP is the best, Vista blows'' without anything to back it up - especially when they're the same people who wouldn't touch XP for the first 2-3years of its life.

[Dimlight @ Mar 16th 2008 1:56PM]

You know, maybe people said that because XP was unstable, buggy, resource hungry and poorly supported until around the time SP2 came out - I personally didn't adopt XP until several years after its release.

Now it's well supported, industry standard and computer technology has caught up enough to make sure it's not system hungry on most computers, something Vista has yet to do.

In 3 or 4 years time, it probably won't have those problems. For now, it's still pretty rubbish.

[tha-don @ Mar 16th 2008 2:07PM]

xp ran awesome for me right off the bat. vista also runs very good for me right now....but then again, i know how to use it. oh well, to each their own. and if people complaining about somethin just because they don't know how to use it gives them somethin to do, then more power to em.

[Dimlight @ Mar 16th 2008 2:53PM]

I disagree entirely XP was fine upon release. Poor driver support, driver conflicts (handled those issues a lot), crashed a lot, security holes, and again, very resource hungry, especially when computer manufacturers were installing it on PCs with 128MB of RAM and crap like that.

And as for not knowing how to use it, if it's been released for a week, anyone who works in support hasn't excatly had 5 years to learn about it have they? Support gets better as a product matures. And a lot of OEMs (I know, I worked for one) didn't develop drivers until it was released, which meant a 6 month wait before you can copy your music onto your mobile phone. Remember all those web pages that looked like this?: http://sonyericsson.com/vista

Anyone who adopted Vista early was a dork; it was expensive, made your machine go slower and heaps of stuff didn't run on it! Early adopters should KNOW and ACCEPT that, and it's only because of knowing that I'm not one of those people.

[MemphisNET @ Mar 16th 2008 3:15PM]

Well I'm a dork then : A dork who checked to see if all my software/hardware was supported - and was. I've been running Vista Ultimate since day 1. I was able to get an OEM copy, not a retail - and I did not pay much because of connections. Not everyone has that opportunity of course.

My point is how quickly people forget. I work in IT and previously in sales. It's the hardcore (or wannabe) computer geeks that claim (insert any product here) is junk because they don't know enough about it. Those who are NOT hardcore users are then forced to believe it.

What did I tell my Vista buyers? If you're starting fresh - don't worry, because you're not going to experience the ''problems'' that are out there. If you have a back-catalog of legacy hardware and software to support, yea, you should wait, or do a lot of research first. Today, if you're starting mostly fresh, you'd be hard pressed to have any initial problems unless the system itself has a hardware defect.

The most opinionated or usually the least informed or least qualified on the subject. This is not a stab at anyone here who has a different opinion, you're welcome to it.

[tha-don @ Mar 16th 2008 3:22PM]

i was referrin to vista itself not sp1. if you turn off all the features you don't need, then vista runs fine. if vista doesn't support drivers that you need for your computer, then you shouldn't be trying to run vista on that computer. the only reason i have vista though is cause it came on the laptop i bought, not because i chose it.

i'm sure some people had trouble with xp when it first came out, but i was using it since beta stages, and once the final version came out, it ran very nicely for me. i never had problems with driver conflicts or anything like that with it n if i did it was always an easy fix. i believe i had more than 128mb of ram though even back then so i can't really comment on it's resource hungriness.

and yes, i am a dork. i've accepted that n moved on. also i don't really care if people like windows or not, i just like startin beef n givin people somethin to be angry about. :)

[Zorque @ Mar 16th 2008 5:07PM]

I know, I've been using Vista for quite some time now, and the only issue I've had, or seen anyone else have for that matter, was my little brother's USB-based guitar. Even though it said it was Vista compatible, it wasn't, so I just set up a dual-booting XP/Vista system for him. Took about 20 minutes (for some reason, XP actually installed much faster than usual), and everything was fine. If people would just use the upgrade advisor like I did, we'd have a lot fewer complaints.

[CraigJ @ Mar 16th 2008 5:27PM]

@Mwmphis: "If you're starting fresh - don't worry, because you're not going to experience the ''problems'' that are out there."

I started "fresh" and had no real problems on one system (Dell Optiplex) and hat lots of problems on another (Dell Laptop) I have been using commercial OS's since 1985, or there abouts, DOS, Windows 3, WFW, Windows 95, 98, Me, NT 3.51, NT 4.0, 2000, XP and Vista, not to mention 4 or 5 different flavors of UNIX (SCO, Sun, BSD, AIX, etx.). With the exception of Me, Vista is the worst Windows experience I've ever encountered, given the state of the art (I.E. you can't really compare Window 3.1 to Vista). Vista doesn't do anything for the user that XP doesn't do, and it does it slower, using more resources, and in a seemingly arbitrarily different manner than XP/2000. Is Vista that bad? No, not really. Is it any better than XP? No, not really. Is it worth the extra costs to get the same level of performance from Vista that you can get from XP? No, it's not. I've ordered the last 2 machines for my house with XP, and I can tell you that I am a happier camper for it. XP doesn't get in my way like Vista does. I spend about 12 hours a day on my various systems, and I can tell you flat out that I will not be getting any more Vista machines. If need be I'll just build my own and install XP. I'll look at upgrades in the future if Microsoft gets it right with SP2 or Windows 7.

[Boss @ Mar 16th 2008 5:44PM]

Only reason I haven't switched to Vista yet is because frankly I see no need to at this point except for the aesthetic improvements, which I really do like. Also being a gamer it has obviously been proving high end gaming performance takes a performance hit in Vista. Every game running on both platforms ran slower in terms of fps in Vista. Now being that my computer is mid-range and I don't have $700 to buy the top of the line SLI video cards I think I can benefit from all the performance and FPS I can get with one 8800 GT as I don't want my games being choppy. I also like the super fast boot up times and fast performance I have right now (after tweaking xp), which would be slowed somewhat if I installed vista, even though I exceed all requirements. (Core Duo overclocked at 3.2ghz,8800gt, 3gb ram,etc) Why upgrade now? Theres nothing wrong with Vista, I think It's great and have it on my secondary PC , but as of right now theres not too much reason to upgrade. So please don't shove it down peoples throats like it's the second coming.

[Dimlight @ Mar 16th 2008 5:59PM]

My laptop came with Vista, which munches through RAM, hard drive space, has badly configured security options, not all of my hardware is compatible, uses 10GB of my hard drive and isn't neccessary. It does nothing to improve my overall experience, costs more, is slower... Why would I want it? Why on earth?

[ScareyJ @ Mar 16th 2008 6:45PM]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_and_safety_features_new_to_Windows_Vista

The security enhances and changes alone are worth the upgrade to Vista; much more thorough and evolved than a simple Mac commercial would lead you to believe.

[CraigJ @ Mar 16th 2008 9:32PM]

@scareyj: Windows asking the user "if they really want to" every time it thinks there *might* be a problem is not good security. As someone mentioned above, to get Vista to run well, turn that stuff off. What is the point paying for additional features that I'm just going to turn off anyway?

[Chaj @ Mar 16th 2008 1:30PM]

I'd be concerned w/ using that toilet paper... It might be incompatible w/ my ass after taking a dump which would really leave me SOL.

[James Ollier @ Mar 16th 2008 9:36PM]

Yeah you might end up with the "Red Ring of Death" lol

[David @ Mar 17th 2008 1:06AM]

aHAHAHAHA james you just made my week

[cybereality @ Mar 17th 2008 1:00AM]

Comedy Gold!

[Wisam @ Mar 16th 2008 1:35PM]

You deserve it Vista.

[Raheem @ Mar 16th 2008 1:38PM]

Hey, aren't we still awaiting YOUR operating system to be released?

[MEAT! @ Mar 16th 2008 2:52PM]

Nice false dilemma there, Raheem. Obviously the only possible choices are to love Vista or to make a new, superior OS.

[Raheem @ Mar 16th 2008 5:00PM]

I knew someone like you, MEAT! would look past the humour and try to create some kind of consumer issue.

[ethana2 @ Mar 16th 2008 5:28PM]

Raheem, Ubuntu Hardy will be out /very/ soon. I'm using it now.

...I don't 'wait'. I alpha test.

[Raheem @ Mar 17th 2008 6:24AM]

Don't get it.

[Neebs @ Mar 16th 2008 1:42PM]

"You kind of have to feel a little bad for Vista -- it just keeps getting crapped on these days."

I know, Ryan, and it doesn't deserve it all.

[ijyt @ Mar 16th 2008 1:44PM]

That was a terrible joke.

[holycow @ Mar 16th 2008 1:47PM]

hey Ryan i was just wondering if you ever found that kid who never got the XBOX360 ?

[FT @ Mar 16th 2008 9:44PM]

Finally...you can really shove Vista up your candy ass!!!

[danny @ Mar 16th 2008 2:01PM]

Fitting...

[gaforces @ Mar 16th 2008 1:59PM]

A roll of TP wants to access your anus, Allow|Cancel?

[awjinahn @ Mar 17th 2008 7:28AM]

hahahaa

[silverblackvoid @ Mar 16th 2008 2:08PM]

you're my hero Evan!

[Chris Macdonald @ Mar 16th 2008 6:40PM]

who tf is evan..?

[Tiptup300 @ Mar 16th 2008 2:17PM]

This is real news. Wow judging from the various (3) ipod "news" stories yesterday and today this, It's starting to seam a bit like Engadget has little something for apple products. Probably is nothing.

[freakmarket @ Mar 16th 2008 2:22PM]

Keep in mind this is a blog people ... last time i checked the 1st amendment handed been suspended ... get off Ryan's back people.

Vista is doing fine ... every time we have a new version of windows there is always bugs and mostly LACK of 3rd party support. 3rd party stuff is what got most of the Vista flaming going and that's finally been taking care of for the most part.

Most people i know who use Vista actually like it. SP1 improves over all speed of the o/s a little which is good.

YAWN at all the anti-vista rants. It's here ... it's the number 2 best selling o/s EVER coming in right behind XP.

[Raheem @ Mar 16th 2008 2:46PM]

Your constitution is no good on the internets. Specifically because I'm from the United Kingdom, and Block is guilty of Vistacide. I sentence him to two years in Her Majesty's Sex Dungeon.

[ScareyJ @ Mar 16th 2008 4:22PM]

"Keep in mind this is a blog people ... last time i checked the 1st amendment handed been suspended ... get off Ryan's back people."

Thats the great thing about the first amendment ... it not only protects Ryan but ALSO the people who don't like his comments.

[Sukhminder @ Mar 16th 2008 2:29PM]

The story after this one proves your point! A RUMOR of a Airport Express update. Wow!

[Sukhminder @ Mar 17th 2008 4:00AM]

Censorship FTW!