PS3 2.20 update to offer portable copy of Blu-ray films to PSP?
By Thomas Ricker 
posted Mar 24th 2008 2:07AM
posted Mar 24th 2008 2:07AM
If PCWorld is correct, then it looks like Sony's pending, PS3 2.20 firmware will have at least one little surprise for movie buffs. As if the inclusion of Blu-ray's BD-Live interactivity and the removal of the 2GB DivX and WMV file-size cap wasn't enough, PCWorld says that you can also expect the introduction of portable copy. With it, users will be able to copy a PSP formatted (and DRM'd) version of the film directly to their PSP -- no UMD required. Right, just like we saw demonstrated live back at CES in January.Update: There's a rumor that Sony's portable copy would transcode any Blu-ray film into a PSP version. That's not how we understand it. The firmware update would just allow the PS3 to "see" the portable copy already burned into some Blu-ray discs and then make it available for transfer to your PSP. Think Digital Copy for Sony's gear, not Apple's.
Update 2: Sony just pinged us to say that Portable Copy won't be coming with the 2.20 release -- bummer. We'll be waiting, guys.
[Via QJ.net]
amen to that.
I'ts suprising, but, not so unexpected that Sony is basically dropping its support of UMD.
Now that flash memory is cheaper (4 GB for $50) and Solid State drives are slowly working their way down the foodchain from PC's to laptops to game systems, I expect to see the next generation of handhelds with no less than 20GB of Flash memory - no moving parts - and better battery life.
The next PSP should be SSD drive based and should feature primarily downloadable media.
@Flashpoint:
Well, if Sony was going to wait 5+ years for the next PSP to come out, or wanted it to cost more than the PS3, then I might be inclined to agree with you.
I can't be the only one that thinks this is a load of bull? We should be able to do this anyway, on as many players as we like. I should be able to rip a blu ray disk bought from sony and put it on my iPod, or have the ability to rip DVD's in itunes and use them on my PSP. This would be perfectly legal in the UK and feasible if everyone wasn't so frikkin short sighted and greedy.
I'm going to get low ranked aren't I... :(
@fanman
The problem is when you say (since we’re all into social networking these days), “hey Face Book or My Space friend, check this out. I’ll send it to you”. Listen, I’m all for “fare use” and if Sony wants to imbed (with out additional cost) a PSP version of a flick on a single Blue-Ray Disc for me to transfer to the PSP for portable viewing, then I’m all for it. Really it’s the new generation equivalent of what they should have done with UMDs and that is BUY A DVD ($19.99) AND IN THE SAME BOX YOU GET THE SAME MOVIE INCLUDED ON UMD! UMD would have survived using this model! But that’s yesterday’s news. Now hurry up and start embedding those PSP flicks into the Blue-Ray package!
"BUY A DVD ($19.99) AND IN THE SAME BOX YOU GET THE SAME MOVIE INCLUDED ON UMD!"
That would be a bad idea for Sony. The amount of people that have PSP's compared to the amount of people that buy DVD's is insane. There would be millions of people that have no use for their UMD so they would just give it to a friend.
Nice!
Portable Movies? = Nice!
Cost of memory sticks to hold data? = Not so nice!
Well I bought my 4gb pro duo for only 39.99. I think that's nice.
Flash memory is actually pretty cheap now.
But no matter how cheap it is, for some ppl it is still expensive b/c it has a Sony brand on it.
Yeah the 8gb MS is 89.99 now.
Personally I like San Disk's Memory Stick Duos. I've never had a problem with them in any device (one Sony DSLR, one Sony PS3, two Sony PSPs, two Sony Vaio laptops and one non-Sony built in multi-card reader in a Sager laptop). They are often cheaper and when Sony sticks have been low in supply, instead of paying more for importing, San Disk has been a-plenty.
Cheapest 8GB MS Pro Duo from Newegg: $85.99
Cheapest 8GB SDHC from Newegg: $27.99
Realizing that you're getting ripped off by Sony: Priceless
Sure you're getting ripped off a bit for the proprietary technology, but it's still not *expensive* in any absolute sense. You can get a 4GB stick for 40 bucks shipped. It may not be nearly as cheap as SD, but SD "won" the format war, so of course it's not going to cost as much. 10 bucks a gig for fast, re-writable, portable memory would have been a pipe dream even a year after the PSP launched. I wish the PSP used SD, don't get me wrong, but to act like it's some big burden to shell out for a memory stick? Give me a break.
I don't understand the removal of the file size cap. PS3 can currently play DivX files that are burned to a dual-layer dvd that are up to 8GB in size and it can play any sized file over DLNA (network). You cannot play files larger than 2GB via hard drive, but thats only because it only supports FAT32... are they gonna support NTFS or what?
Pfft, you nerd! :)
ext4 or zfs, please.
Goodness, at least use something documented.
...so If I have a PS3 running Ubuntu and a PSP running debian, where does this put me?
The PS3 is not Windows based, so I highly doubt this. However as you've said the PS3 can support large files than 2GB (so can FAT32 btw) so I believe this was just an arbitrary limit placed early on for who knows why.
Isn't 4GB the max file size for FAT32?
Anyway, that's quite an interesting thought with zfs or ntfs. The problem is that whatever filesystem that they end up using will need to be "universal", and be used easily on either a PC or MAC. The problem does not apply to just the PSP/PS3, but all other media devices. How would they get around the 4GB limit but yet keep it simple for the (non-geek) consumer?
2^32 = 4 294 967 296
Yeah, its a 4GB cap on FAT32, and I don't remember whether 2-4GB files are supported via hard drive. My point still stands though... you can play DivX files that are over 2GB currently (by disc or network), so its unclear as to what cap they are actually removing.
There was a cap on the internal hard-drive. Also PS3 is likely using a linux fs, but it can already support multiple fs (wow, just like Linux), so I don't see an issue.
There was a cap on the internal hard-drive. Also PS3 is likely using a linux fs, but it can already support multiple fs (wow, just like Linux), so I don't see an issue.
There was a cap on the internal hard-drive. Also PS3 is likely using a linux fs, but it can already support multiple fs (wow, just like Linux), so I don't see an issue.
There was a cap on the internal hard-drive. Also PS3 is likely using a linux fs, but it can already support multiple fs (wow, just like Linux), so I don't see an issue.
Sony should announce the PSP2 at E3 2009, sans UMD drive, plus 64 GB minimum flash drive.
(And if we're lucky, a nice OLED screen!)
Oh, and while we're wishing for ridiculous things that will never happen (well, not for a reasonable price anyways) - God, can you please drop Adriana Lima off in my bed?
KTHXBYE
amen prateeko!
WOW honestly I spent the same amount for all the systems. The PS3 one system since most games are single player and fun that way; the 360 with HD and Wifi adapter also do not need more controllers since most games are fun single but XBL monthly fees; the Wii only fun with other ppl and had to buy the Wifi adapter extra Wiimotes and nunchucks.
I only with the 360 since it has the games in my preference and the least bugs. So it's more worthwhile investing in the 360 for now.
Ahh yes, how I desire the day when a PSP costs 2 grand...
Did anyone understand Jamesology?
I didn't understand the part where he had to buy wifi for his Wii.
That pic looks really nice?
Photo, Photoshop, or Cel-shading creativity?
As for this, GO PIRATES!
Blender + GIMP.
As for pirates-- pick a side, dang you!
Good to hear, but doesn't this only apply to Blu-ray movies that have the feature built in (and thus probably excludes 99% of the flicks out there)?
Not all BD movies?
I'm fairly sure it would have to be a part of the Blu-ray disc itself, as the only other possible way with current discs would be for the PS3 to rip and encode the Blu-ray movie for the PSP and I don't see that happening. Sadly Blu-ray specs for this kind of stuff were not finished before production begun. However there are still numerous ways to get the movies onto the PSP.
What I would like to see is streaming of DVDs and BDs over Remote Play. Then I wouldn't have to resort to illegal means of converting/downloading a movie in another format that I already own.
This is the kind of thing that would bring me back to using my PSP for movies.
... that is, if I had a PS3.
wow, that's some pretty monster functionality to include in a free update. Nice. Way to value-add, Sony. 8^)
Sweet, now all I need is a psp, and a ps3!
I have a PS3 but frankly think the PSP is outdated even when they made it thinner.
What's the point.
Movie - 3 months - DVD - 6 months - Blue-ray
no one will want to watch a 9 month old movie on the go
Excuse? you...HUH?
I think you need to pay attention on Tuesdays.
@ Eric
Do movies have use-by-dates?
Shit I've hundreds of old DVDs on my shelves, I could have really caught something bad by watching on of them, and think of the rats?
Silliest logic ever.
It can't be a surprise if people know about it, unless you were the baddies to spoil the surprise... shame on you Engadget.
Now if they installed the update and something completely unannounced or unexpected happened, then that would be a surprise, even more of one of Sony didn't know about either! :)
Sony has done so many things wrong lately, its just hard for me to believe they could something this right!
I would suppose it will work with any PMP that supports that standard, with PSP being the first one.
Yes, it is pretty cool.
Now that would be a great Bluray selling feature if other manufactrers were allowed to include the spec (think Ipod, Creative... essentially all video devices).