Daring Fireball Live at Macworld with Panic's Sasser

Like many on the Mac web, we at TUAW are fans of John Gruber's Daring Fireball. Now, thanks to Macworld Magazine, we can all hear Gruber at a session he ran at Macworld, together with his guest Cabel Sasser of Panic. As nearly always with Gruber, it's an interesting session with on the fly commentary about the iPhone (which is perforce a little underinformed), discussion about Panic and independent Mac development: definitely worth a listen (caution: the language is a little rough some times).

[Edit: Fixed Sasser's name]