A note on all the iPhone coverage
By Ryan Block 
posted Jun 30th 2007 11:54PM
posted Jun 30th 2007 11:54PM
Yeah, we hear ya, we know some of you are sick of it. That's cool, exhaustive coverage of any gadget isn't for everybody, but instead of making a big fuss in comments why not enjoy this beautiful summer weekend? We're not skipping over other news to cover this iPhone stuff -- news is ALWAYS really slow on the weekends, and we've got a major product to cover the hell out of. Still, we'll try posting more stuff to mobile to cut down on the iPhone spam. Thanks for understanding!<3 Engadget
P.S. -See also: iPhone and Apple-free feeds.
Awwww...I love you guys... :)
Was there this much coverage when the PS3, 360 or Wii came out?
Not even close to this much coverage. And that was three consoles in total!
Maybe not as much, but to be honest there wasn't as much to cover! This isn't a game console, this is a device running a whole new mobile operating system.
There wasnt as much hype over the PS3, 360 and Wii. The consoles are targeted to gamers and if you went to Joystiq or 1Up when the consoles were release they had extensive coverage. Anyone will enjoy and iPhone whereas only gamers will enjoy the consoles.
No.
I appreciate you coming out to say that you acknowledge this at least, Ryan. I'm sick of the news too; and realize news is sometimes slow on weekends- so I guess the choice was iPhone or nothing. I think the whole deal is that people heard a lot about the iPhone pre-launch; and now that it's out- it's all flooding together into one huge iPhone storm of news in the minds of those of us unimpressed with the device.
I'll be playing around with my new Sprint Moto Q, for a few days; and by the time I get done molesting it, the iPhase should be over with.
Chris
Yeah but Apple didn't make any of those!
Sorry to bust your bubble, but the mobile phone industry dwarfs the game industry. Not to mention, the iPhone happens to be the most highly anticipated consumer electronic device in history. Deal with it or move on.
I just checked by clicking the link for the iPhone tag and for the month of June alone there is over 7 pages of iPhone entries with 15 entries per page. Thats over 105 entries a month so thats 3.5 iPhone stories a day.
Can someone tell me what's so special about the iPhone? My SonyEricsson looks almost exactly the same, have a touch screen that I use to call with and so on. I just can't see what's so special with the iPhone?
@Carbonize
there r still some iphone posts that is not 'iphone' tagged check 'em also :D
We
...love you too, Engadgy... :)
Will you marry us?
well said Nando, well said...
You guys dont have to apologize. If you dont want to read about the iPhone dont go to any tech blog for the next few days...
I agree, no need to apologise. People need to learn to just deal with it and stop complaining on every single iPhone article.
@Common Core 2 Duo
I did (or rather, am about to). I am leaving Sprint with a year left on my contract. The sale of my phone will cover the cancellation fee.
You know I really want to see a poll of how many people took the cancellation fee ( termination fee ) and jumped ship to AT&T. Would be interesting to see.
I don't see what's smart about this phone, you can view youtube videos and it has google maps built in. Ummmmmmmm ....yeaaaaaa
haha you are so stupid.
You're such a big bully!
Thanks for thinking of us non-iPhone lovers
"instead of making a big fuss in comments why not enjoy this beautiful summer weekend?"
lol, this reminded me of the bravia balls commercial for some reason..
http://www.bravia-advert.com/commercial/braviacommhigh.html
I'm actually enjoying all the iPhone coverage. Please keep it up. :)
12 of the 15 stories on the front page are iPhone....please
I waited in line for about 3 hours on the 29th. Sadly, the last 8GB model went to the guy in front of me, so I had to go home and order one online. So in the mean time, I kinda like reading about all this stuff, as silly as that may be.
More iPhone coverage please. I'm reading every bit of it.
As for the "im sick of iPhone coverage" gumps. You were given an iPhone free version of Engadget but you are all so pathetic that you would rather comment about how much you hate the phone on every single post. I feel sorry for you.
I'm not getting an iPhone but i appreciate it because this is the healthy competition needed to make all the other cell phone makers step up their games.
"I'm not getting an iPhone but i appreciate it because this is the healthy competition needed to make all the other cell phone makers step up their games."
You're still missing the point.
The reason haters exist is because the iPhone doesn't really *do anything* that other phones don't already do, yet still it's being treated like the second coming of Christ. In fact, it is actually slower and less functional than many phones already on the market at much lower prices.
The fact that people like you think it's going to force other manufacturers to "step up" is part of what's wrong with the cell phone industry in this country. Our standards are apparently quite low, and we're apparently demanding even less from our new marquee products than we do from the phones we already have. We're going backwards, and we're celebrating it. That's what the rest of the industry is going to learn from this - that rather than useful features, network speed and quality, we all apparently want non-replaceable batteries, non-upgradable memory, 2G network speed and no voice dialing. Great. And that's why some people are a little annoyed at all this coverage.
You know, people wonder why our phones are about 5 years behind the phones in Asia. This is part of the reason why right here. We're stuck on brand loyalty and gimmicks instead of functionality, and that's only being reinforced by the iPhone. The Razr set us back a good 2 years with its tiny screen and its "thinness" that every manufacturer had to copy above all else, and now we're going to be stuck with phones that have unprotected touch screens but are otherwise slow, proprietary and non-upgradeable. Meanwhile, other countries around the world continue to push cell phone technology forward while we fall further behind.
@Jeff
Well said, and I completely agree with you.
I'm having trouble understanding how people like Jeff here can't see how the iPhone is a huge leap forward in mobile technology. Not in terms of the underlying specifications, but in terms of actually being usable. I'm a software engineer and complete gadget geek. I had an lg hsdpa/media phone... I never use it for more than making calls. Navigating the interface to get it to do anything is just a pain in the ass, a completely frustrating experience. I'm smart, I can figure out how to make it work, but like any creative, smart engineer, I'm also lazy.
The reason the iPhone is such a huge leap forward... it's the interface stupid. No one has ever made a mass market device with a multi-simultanious touch, gesture recognizing interface that actually works. The interface enables you to manipulate your information in new ways that weren't possible before. This was obvious to me the second I saw the iphone keynote in January. This is as big a leap forward, and as much a paradigm shift as the mouse. When I saw it, the first thing I though, damn, I want that on my laptop!
OK THE IPHONE IS GARBAGE!
But you 2 are still here on the iphone pages picking at it and inflating the comments section pressed to fight.
What you are not getting is i like the iPhone because i believe it will get other companies to make better products to top it.
We all know the iPhone isn't perfect but It has battery life, screen size and resolution, a real web browser and 8GBs of built in storage. I have the Sprint PPC 6700 now and those 4 iPhone features alone added to my 6700 would make me happy.
Maybe HTC will see the hype iPhone receives and take the few things it is doing right and improve upon them thats all i'm saying
I'm with voisine. I don't have an iPhone but I played with it in the store for about ten minutes. After that I went and looked at the Sync. OMG that phone was so boring, not out-speced, just boring. I am positive I would have thought differently if I looked at it first. That made me realize just how much the menu system in phones sucks.
Thanks V but the Shift is a UMPC with a 7" screen why are you bringing that up? I'm not willing to carry a purse to hold that thing.
The Advantage looks nice how thick is it? Is it thicker than my 6700? Running Windows mobile means i still can't get HTML web surfing? Is it stable? My current and past Windows mobile devices are not. I say the jury is still out on the advantage.
Oh yeah and i live in the USA neither of those HTC products are available here and even if they were I cant do GSM in my area. I've had T-mobile and Cingular phones and the coverage is sub par where i live/work/travel.
@ Jeff
"That's what the rest of the industry is going to learn from this - that rather than useful features, network speed and quality, we all apparently want non-replaceable batteries, non-upgradable memory, 2G network speed and no voice dialing. Great. And that's why some people are a little annoyed at all this coverage."
1) Non-Replaceable Batteries - I doubt many, if any, companies will copy this. It's an Apple trademark that's been around since the iPod.
2) Non-Upgradeable memory - It's a phone, not a PC. And if by memory, you meant disk space, then I think 8 GB is enough. My current phone has 1MB of disk space and somehow I made it by.
3) 2G Network Speed - As mentioned before, EDGE is a 3G standard. Also, it's not widely adopted in AT&T's infrastructure, so why would they make a product that's compatible with even less people than it already would be with availability on one carrier?
4) No Voice Dialing - Only douchebags use voice dialing. I feel bad for your co-workers, family, and friends if you're actually tacky enough to use it around them. The lack of voice dialing weighs more into the demographic (early 20 year olds); none of whom use voice dialing.
And those of us concerned about what the latest innovation in cellphone technology is in Asia? Last I checked, it was the ability to project video from your phone onto the wall. Man, no wonder the iPhone sucks so badly! No video projection! Forget government bans on stem-cell research, that's nothing compared to what Apple's doing. They have the RESPONSIBILITY to push technology forward since every other cellphone company is INCAPABLE of creating technology that SELLS!! But no, instead, they choose to improve on what's already available! How DARE they! God forbid I can make conference calls with the push of a button! I downloaded a hack for my Sony X5000 smartphone that makes conference phones in only 5 scroll wheel turns and 3 button presses, and it cost me 50 Dollars less than an iPhone! Also, everyone knows visual voicemail has been out since cell-phones were invented. Hell, my 5lb Nokia phone from the 1980s had visual voicemail AND a multi-touch screen. There is absolutely NOTHING NEW WITH THIS PHONE!! AURUGGGH ENGADGET IZ TEH SUCKS!!
voisine I understand where you coming from, but what makes me mad is the very fact that the UI is so intuitive, yet the hardware is not very special at all (I would to two SD slots over 8gb on board memory any day of the week).
It would be fantastic if Apple would sell their Interface to other manufacturers and compete with windows mobile, But instead they think everyone should mindless drones that only buy products from apple. Hell, even Gates is not so vain to think everyone needs a windows pc and that they should pay a ridiculous markup for it simply because it has a windows logo on it. Maybe if Apple would sell their operating system apart from their computers they would not have such a measly market share, and then if MS actually had some real competition for their market share they would release an operating system thats wouldn't be such crap (relatively speaking).
@Dismal
First comment on engadget that ever made me laugh out loud. Please let me know when Ben & Jerrys starts selling their ice cream at Baskin Robins and when BMW starts designing the interiors of Ford trucks. Thanks.
I happen to like the whole multi touch set-up.
The iPhones OS seems smoother than Windows Mobile.
Oh yeah and the UI looks great.
Add that to the to the list of things HTC doesen't have.
@ John.
That is a seriously bad analogy. As far as ice cream goes, the way Apple sells software is like Ben & Jerry's saying "You can buy a tub of our ice cream, but only if you buy a Ben & Jerry's refrigerator to keep it in! Oh and by the way, you can't keep Baskin Robins' ice cream in there, sorry."
Apple does limit its market share by making software proprietary... while Windows does generally suck, Joe Public can walk into his nearest electrical store, buy any PC he likes and know that it's going to run XP or Vista or whatever.
I'm not complaining though. I love Apple's hardware and software and am a proud owner of a Black Macbook. However if Apple were to open up and let OS X be used on other machines, there's bound to be massive increases in support for the platform. Whether this would be worth the likely compromise in security is another matter :P
hey.. the engadget logo looks cute. :p
Here's a plan...If the haters here see "i" anything...you can roll your scroll wheel three times and then you wont see it anymore.
QUIT WHINING!
If you dont like what they're printing read somewhere else or start your own magazine.
STOP PLAYING WITH MY HEART!
boo to the haters.. we're lucky to get more than 3 posts during the weekend. the iphone is worthy of the coverage, keep it comin. doesn't even stack up to the release of another gaming system, you guys are doing great
What exactly is the point of Engadget Mobile if you don't post news on like... mobile devices (such as cell phones) there... You post at one, not both.
I don't even know why Engadget Mobile exists if you are just going to post it at the normal Engadget anyway.
Most of our features/unique content is going on the front page. News is getting crossposted. The rest of the non-iPhone/non-front-page mobile news is still going up over there!
I noticed that the comment count is not the same on both sites. Why not just use the engadget mobile database, and pull the items with a flag marked as "general" or "main" to show those items on the main site as well (instead of cross-posting)?
I'm suggesting that because the other site may lose traffic since those wanting attention will post in the more popular location (thus the location having the most replies). You can also off-load resources to the other server that way.
I'd rather read one site for my gadget news than have to wade through posts on two sites, thankyouverymuch.
you have the stomach to call those news?
Please for the love of god, enough with all this iPhone bulls**t. We don't need any more articles about this wonderfully over-hyped and under-featured device.
What is that phrase: "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything." Well, "If you don't have anything else to report on [other than the iPhone], please, just don't report anything."
You guys have been ridiculous lately. While I am glad you are acknowledging that maybe you have reported the crap out of this piece of plastic, you have still lost a large chunk of respect in my book.
At this point if you're still complaining after Engadget has repediatly offered feeds without iPhone stuff and apologized for the news then you need to pull your head out of your arse and get over it.
Sorry Ryan - it's your blog, you have the right to publish whatever you want - BUT, your apology in short is: We're sorry we're going to flood what was a general tech blog with a near crazed obsession with a single product, and we know a lot of you are tired of it - but so what?
Not exceptionally sincere.
Just a thought - when your *customers* are telling you they're tired of it, maybe you might want to listen?
Anyway, your counter argument about the Wii and XBox and so on is specious. The Wii, for example, represented a major change in gaming both in terms of technology AND in terms of market penetration. It's STILL sold out in many places - almost eight MONTHS after it's introduction. And now it's being opened up for developers.
The XBox 360 is different because for the first time, Microsoft is introducting tools to allow the average hobbyist to write games.
It's a *phone*. A nice phone, but in the end - it's just a frigging phone - and not even one of the more interesting ones out there. If you actually took the time to cover some of the other phones out there to this degree, you'd see this.
The ONLY thing that makes the iPhone special is the name 'Apple' associated with it. I sincerely doubt that if this phone had been made by Microsoft it would have gotten 1/2 the airtime - and I'm also equally sure you'd have been obsessing with what was WRONG with it rather than what was great about it.
The public seems to agree because Apple couldn't even sell out their stock on their first day. If the feeding frenzy was as great as you (and others) made it out to be, I had half expected people to be rioting in the streets after the crowd of millions couldn't get their iPhones on the first day. Heck, even RIMs stock went up a record 22% the same day the iPhone came out. Read the clues guys.
But in the end - here's the best evidence to date that perhaps you've gone over the deep end on this one...
The very fact that in the last week, you've had to
- come up with a way for people to NOT read your site (and how screwed up is that? a guy creates a blog and then has to find a way to get people to read it without reading it?)
- TWICE remind people that this 'out' exists (which SHOULD tell you that it's not working)
- and finally - publish a half-assed apology.
Have you EVER had to do that before? I've never seen it here before. Not even on things like the Mac mini or new MacBooks.
Maybe it's time to start that 12-step program to recovery with the first step: Admitting that Engadget has a problem.
Oh and maybe looking at some of your iPhone articles and ask yourself: do you REALLY want your reputation in journalism to come down to 'I wrote an article about which swear words are in the iPhone prediction dictionary' and 'fat guy has a Zune tattoo'? I know I wouldn't.
But hey, if you want to become the Fox News of gadget journalism - have fun. :) We'll sit back and enjoy laughing at it all. My only complaint is that I miss having a place to read *interesting* articles on new tech and gadgets.
Cheers.
Perhaps you've heard of the vocal minority? There is a number of people complaining about the coverage, and probably plenty who want it to go back to normal -- and it will.
Meanwhile, we continue to experience record traffic, and there's not a ton of news out there but iPhone stuff right now, so it's clear why people are coming to Engadget in droves.
Simply: *some* vocal customers are telling us to cut out the coverage, and orders of magnitude more are flooding the site to read all the iPhone news.
Welcome to the extremely vocal minority!
Wow, can't let that one go.
Engadget's 'customers' are the advertisers, not you. You are the PRODUCT being sold to those customers.
So anything that drives mass page-impressions is all that matters to such a 'business'.
BSW -- absolutely positively wrong. The readers are Engadget's customers, not the advertisers. We have an extremely strict separation between advertising and editorial.
you sir are an idiot. The reason RIMM went up 20% was because they reported earnings. And iPhone did not sell out b/c apple knew a lot of people were going to buy it. So they spent the better half of June stockpiling them. So instead of releasing a few early/mid june. They released their entire stock on June 29th.
Ryan - About half of your total page hits are from me - trying to read the Engadget front page for news about non-iPhone products and happenings. You know, before those stories got pushed off the main page.
Point is, Jeff DOES have a point - albeit highly critical of you on a personal level. There are huge stories that Engadget kinda "brushes" over or ignores completely, then we get whole blog posts about the word "fuck" being in the iPhone's dictionary. Yes, the iPhone is fantastic, yadda yadda yadda, but it's not the 21st century's printing press. It's a phone that does things that other phones do - we really didn't need two weeks of 90% iPhone articles. I mean, how much can REALLY be said about one product? How much can be said that has some weight to it?
The iPhone coverage *really* does feel like Paris Hilton coverage. Lots of people read about it and buy magazines that have Paris on the front cover - but let's face it, it's not news. US Weekly decided not to write any more about Paris, because they came to their senses. We're not asking for that dramatic of a reaction to our pleas for help, but we are asking for a reduction in content so we can see the worthwhile content. If something major comes up about the iPhone, tell us! (This does not include 17 videos of launch day or 10 entries saying how Engadget thinks it's cool or how many you guys got.)
Ryan-
You misunderstand the business-customer relationship. None of your readers pay anything, your advertisers do. That creates a profit-motive and is all I'm saying. I'm sorry if that infers a motive for bias, but it is what it is: the defacto ad-based business model. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact of market economics.
Network television, for example. We'll say over rabbit-ears for simplicity. Why is it profitable to develop programming to attract the largest number of viewers who pay nothing? Because the number of viewers drives their advertising rates. Scary-accurate analogy.
Same applies for cable-tv once you make it past the subscription fee to Cox (or whoever) to subsidize the commercial-free stations and public-service fees (for C-SPAN and local gov't broadcasts)
I suppose I'll speak for the "vocal majority" when I say that as a person who will likely not own an iPhone for at least a few years, it's great to read about it. Frankly, I don't care about you trolls and your Linux-Palm OS dual boot super-smart phones complete with air conditioning and rocket launcher. You've made your points about the iPhone, why you hate it, why Engadget sucks because it's pro-iPhone, etc. It's time to move on. The reason why the iPhone is so interesting to me is that despite the fact that I've read time and time again why the iPhone sucks on these comment boards, I'm still intrigued by it. To top it off, people who have actually used the iPhone (what a concept) are happy with it and even say it lives up to expectations. How can you argue with that?
To Ryan, you don't need to apologize. I have an Engadget RSS feed on my homepage that I check regularly for iPhone news. I appreciate the work you all put into your articles and hope that these haters don't discourage you.
Everyone's pretty much saying it people (all outlets). Readers are showing up in DROVES to read iPhone updates. Here I bought an iPhone, I'm HAPPY, but not overly giddy (anymore). I just wanted to use it, and now I can, and its f-ing great.
That said, Engadget's been posting some interesting perspectives and information that I wasn't thinking about until I read it. Good stuff! Am I interested in the new iRiver right now? No, can't say I am, but the story is there. Next week? Maybe. Right now, its a strange time for everyone. I question whether any cell carrier has EVER taken on this many new customers all at once. I mean, really. This has to be some type of precedent. It will be interesting when we get the REAL numbers. This has passed the point where it is PURELY about the iPhone's "gadget pedigree". The story has become about the rollout of a gadget that enthralled a nation (merits or not). It's got some cache to it. Let's hope Apple doesn't sit on its laurels.
On a sad note, I was cleaning up my podcasts, and listened to the last podcast of DigitalBill (Bill Douthett, 9.26.2006 show), of the Wizards of Technology podcast. He passed away last September. I was listening to him talk about the introduction of the Nokia N95, when he commented on it being "maybe a little too late" (a great device that would do even better if it started at $499 like the iPhone), he said this, just before asking, "Where's my iPhone?" That ran chills down my spine. It also helps to lend to the remarkeable 9 month incubation period people have attributed to this rollout from mainstream analyst reports to product launch. It's been an amazing ride.
"It's a *phone*. A nice phone, but in the end - it's just a frigging phone"
It is not "just a phone". It would be if you could pick it up and start dialing away but you can't. You have to choose the phone program from several other options to make a call. No phone requires more than simply unlocking the keypad or sliding/flipping it open to make a call. That is why the iPhone is not "just a phone".
"It's a *phone*. A nice phone, but in the end - it's just a frigging phone - and not even one of the more interesting ones out there." - Jeff Lewis
Ah, Jeff, now I see. The iPhone nothing more than a phone, and a mediocre one at best - which is why the media and consumers are completely obsessed with it, right? Please.
The irrational blather from the chronic Apple haters is funny, if not sad.
The iPhone is not just a phone - it's an entirely new mobile platform. It will change everything, and your comment will look even more ridiculous 5 years from now than it does now (which is pretty ridiculous already).
Go play with your Origami or something and spare us your idiotic diatribe.
yah, i can't believe that so many people are complaining about EXTRA posts. i say, MORE PLEASE.
i was amazed at the constant attention that engadget has received over the weekend. i mean, it really seemed like Ryan and co. worked nonstop to provide the readers with the material that was demanded. in one word -
thanks
I totally agree. I have no real interest in the iPhone (it looks great, but I'll stick w/ my N95, thank you) - however, I think this is one of the most important steps in phone technology (if for nothing other than design & "flash") & Engadget would be negligent not to cover it.
PS3, Wii not covered enough? PS3's a flop Wii is what it is (which is great, but not a cultural paradigm like the iPhone).
I say thanks for the coverage. Now, can I have my free iPhone please?
awwww... it sucks that gadgie has to make his very first(?) appearance to try to appease the readers.
Umm, don't you guys (read; haters) think that its time to make a new tech blog, say, engadget2.0 :)haha..
I concur with my Engadget hommies: it's a slow news weekend, and it's nice enough outside that you have no excuse to be glued to your monitors unless you're looking for iPhone news to the max. To all my Canadian hommies, it's Canada Day! Go get a 2-4 and drink yourself silly, have a BBQ, light some fireworks (hopefully before consuming the 2-4). To my Hong Kong hommies, it's the 10th anniversary of your... well, not quite independence... but still, go drink some rice wine, play some Mahjong, and watch the beautiful fireworks display above Victoria Harbour (the finale is apparently a huge display showing the Chinese characters for unity, pretty cool, eh?)
(Oh, and sorry in advance if I offend any HKers with my rice wine and mahjong comment. I really have no idea what you guys do for fun.)
No - it's past enough. Enough from all the Apple fanboy sites (which are unreadable) and more than enough from Engadget. You guys are supposed to be less influenced by the hype than the others. What happened to your freakin' objectivity?
When 60% of your posts have 'iPhone' in the title - you should have taken a big look at your selves days ago.
And for those of us (like me) living in a foreign country with no chance of an iPhone for a few years (yup, Japan) - we don't give a rodent's posterior anymore.
"major product to cover the hell out"
Sure ya... major... Hey I'm going for a jog. Then I'm going to grab a tall glass of CHERRY KOOL AID. You guys should try the cherry flavor.
yeah... you're right... It's not major. Its not being covered on TV, Radio, and.. oh hey, the internet. You sir, are a retard. If they had the internet back when the first car rolled off the assembly line, do you think there wouldn't be a ton of coverage? Surrrreeeee... the "horseless carriage" did the same thing as a horse and buggy, but.... and I'm just guessing here.... the automobile changed transportation forever. Same thing here moron. If you disagree thats fine, but just watch how phones evolve over the next year or so.
To Ryan and Engadget,
No need to apologize to anyone. Tech blog + New Tech thing = coverage. The more innovative the tech thing is, the more coverage! Keep up the great work!!!! ;)
I understand that the iPhone is a new gadget for some to play with.. But you didn't do this type of coverage for anything else. Even the Xbox 360 and PS3 didn't get this kind of coverage. Plus, don't you have a page called "Engadget Mobile" to cover things like this. I mean.. yesterday you didn't post a damn thing on Engadget worth reading. That's sad.
We know the iPhone is out.. Enough now!
It seems Engadget had more iphone "news" than appleinsider and macrumors :)
and they didn't even get any iPhones for free to review...
like a hooker who forgot to get the cash and is in trouble with his/her pimp
All I can say is that when zune 2.0 comes out, I want non-stop, wall-to-wall coverage, and no bitching and "M$"ing from all the people who are so happy about the iPhone coverage of late......
Please stop giving Apple free marketing for their technically inferior device... ok apple fanboys you can start slinging your mud now.
Do the complainers not realise. Their complaining will do nothing and the iPhone coverage will be minimal by the end of the week. Just put on your big girl panties and suck it up for a few more days.
Exactly. Thank you.
Even the "No iphone" pages are flooded with iPhone coverage..
Heck, the NO APPLE pages still have iCrap all over them. While I understand (yet don't really care) that the iPhone is the iThing of the iMoment, frankly, iCouldCareLess. I use engadget for finding out what's new out there, not to keep track of the Paris Hilton of the cell phone industry.
Do the people complaining about the complainers not realize their complaining will do nothing and the complaining will be minimal by the end of the week. Just put on your big girl panties and suck it up for a few more days.
I went to the no-iPhone feed. The second post was "guess how many iPhones we have".
The worst thing was there was no option (f) for "who gives a f..."
Seriously though, the censored feed is a good idea, as long as it works. :)
I need everything about iPhone.including spam....thank u.
I just want to add, that to many viewers on this site it does seem the Engadget has gone way over board in it's coverage of Apple products.
And posting a weak "sorry" for flooding this site with so much hype about the iphone for the past few days rings hollow.
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Kinda like Ryan Block is telling us:
You'll get over it.
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Keep on keepin' on! iPhone is one of the ultimate gadgets, it's time is now, engadget covers gadgets, the news is flying, it all makes sense. Soon enough we will have amazing other gadgets to talk about like, er, new ipods!
No, you're right. Many phones do more. Many phones also have crappy interfaces. If I want to change a bluetooth setting on my phone from any menu, I just hit end-menu-9-6. That is the simple way that many don't even know about. Most people would just hit "Back" until the main menu, scroll over to "Settings", scroll down to "Bluetooth". That just gets them to the Bluetooth settings menu in around 8 or more button presses. With the iPhone, it is just home-settings to change the majority of the settings in just 3-4 presses. How can you argue against that?
Yea Yea, Still bloody nauseating
I wonder how much it cost to implement "Multi-Touch". From what i can tell, multi-touch is only used for resizing things. what a useless gimmick. so it's the same as any other smartphone but sorrier and more expensive.
"beautiful summer weekend"?!?
You clearly haven't seen the weather in the UK!
Keep the coverage coming, I am actually enjoying it due to the lack of iPhone in the UK!
Spot on Iain!
Actually there has been some news in the phone area this weekend that hasn't been covered, and that is the latest news on the OpenMoko project, hey Ryan how about a little featurette on this help keep the iPhone hateboi's a little happier? ;)
http://www.openmoko.com/
It took me a while to get the spam joke with the mascot.
but yet look how many of you are talking about the Aibo successor.
Ryan - just because you're getting more hits doesn't mean you're doing the right thing. If you're happy with yourselves because you're getting hits from people looking for iPhone coverage, it means you've sold your soul. A lot of those people probably aren't your loyal readers. If you'd like to alienate your normal readers by spamming engadget with overhyped iPhone stories in favor of getting more one-time hits, that's your choice.
Honestly, it's just a fracking phone. There's nothing revolutionary about it, besides the fact that it's the first one with an Apple logo on it. Yeah, it's pretty nice, but it also has flaws - making it not much better than anything else out there. It definitely isn't worth the hype. What happened to real gadget stories? Video card news? Computer hardware? Did you guys even realize that the ATI 2900's got a huge performance boost with the latest drivers, putting them into competition with Nvidia (finally)? I'd say that's just as important as the iPhone. Or how about the upcoming Intel price cuts? You guys don't have any real news lately, just hype about various things or offbeat stories that don't have much to do with electronics.
"Honestly, it's just a fracking phone. "
Honestly, that's a pretty stupid statement. I don't think anything is just a phone when in its default state you can't call someone. I can take any phone and, presuming the keypad is unlocked, dial a phone number. You can't do that with the iPhone. It is just as easy to listen to music or watch a video or surf the internet as it is to make a phone call.
Funny how Engadget is still trying to claim the iPhone is such a big deal...yet the phone still hasn't sold out across the country. Shrug, that's not a big deal. For all the hype, unless Apple moves 1 million units this weekend, then the launch is nothing special.
All of you iPhone news haters need to get a grip. But you can't help yourselves can you.
I, for one, welcome our new multi-touchy feely overlords... oh wait.. wrong news website.
Engadget, of course you have to massively cover the most important gadget launch in 2007 - if not even in the millenium! You're doing one Hell of a good job. Who would we turn to if we didn't have you? Keep it up.
And no, I'm not an AppleFanBoy. In fact, I'm not even getting an iPhone. But that doesn't make the launch any less important or relevant.
I'm of two minds - it's certainly nice that there's new content appearing over the weekend (weekends always seem very slow) but it does feel as the iPhone has had more than its fair share of coverage. As much as people like to describe it as revolutionary and 'a cultural paradigm', that's just the hype speaking, it really isn't; it's just a shiney unproven product with an Apple logo on it.
What I think we need is not fewer iPhone stories, but more of this level of coverage for other cool devices out there; keep things balanced. How about some articles on the wonders of the Japanese mobile scene - many of their handsets blow the iPhone out of the water. Before you say they're unavailable outside Japan so won't interest folks, well the iPhone is not yet available outside North America.
I have been an avid Engadget reader for several years now, and this is the first time I feel the need to write something. The number of posts for the iPhone is just crazy. And more and more of them are about nothing of any real news anyway.
I don't want to read the iPhone-free Engadget, as I am interested in the iPhone, much as I am interested in most of other items you write about. But this recent flood is just crazy, and frankly not of the standard that we have all come to expect from Engadget.
You guys wrote about the iLoser sitting in a queue for days on end, and reading the Engadget main page today makes me think you guys were there with him.
I am not actually trying to cause friction here, I love Engadget, and I will still read it on a daily basis. What I do suggest though is that instead of having an iPhone-free page, you have a specific Engadget-iPhone page (like Engadget Mobile) for all the people who want to live and breath every iPhone nonsense they can. That way the rest of us can read the normal Engadget web page, and also the odd iPhone related post.
agreed... i dont want to view the non iphone feed because i do like to see a bit about the iphone will never own one myself as long as they are above 199 and require cingular/att but the flood of posts here has been pretty bad. half of the "articles" posted here should never have been posted and you wouldn't be seeing as much backlash had they never been posted.
I'd like to see a post with pictures of EVERY SINGLE MENU from the Wii, 360, and PS3 since you've already done it with the ihone.
wait...wait...the whaPhone? Was there some new car phone released? It'd have to be pretty awsome to beat my Radio Shack Bag phone...