Palm Centro review

After seeing scores of "leaked" photos of the Centro, and hearing enough internet chatter about the device to make your brain vibrate like a tightly-wound piano string, actually getting our hands on the phone was honestly a bit of a surprise, both bad and good. We're going to break it down piece by piece and hopefully give you a rounded impression of the smartphone crown-chaser (or at least princess-in-waiting).
The design
First off, let's get a few basics out of the way. Yes, the phone is considerably smaller than past Treo devices. Having used a 650, 680, and 750, we can honestly say there is a massive difference between holding this phone in your hands and holding any other Palm device. Is this a good thing? For the most part, yes, though there are drawbacks to its diminutive size, which we'll get to in a moment. But for now, let's talk aesthetics.
The Centro has a rounded, symmetrical design that works without being especially fussy or impressive. We would have liked to see Palm put the real estate to better use with a larger screen and less plastic, but this is certainly a step in the right direction for the company... though a few more steps would have gone a long way.

The major difference beyond the overall width and length is the thickness. The phone is thin, though not as lean as the BlackJack, Q, iPhone, or Pearl (which it most closely relates to in terms of size). No, the fact is this: amongst all of these phones, the Centro is still the fattest, though we couldn't tell you why.

The phone comes in two glossy colors, a cherry red and metallic black (it's actually got silver flecks in it). They're attractive enough, but we continue to take fault with Palm over the gray stripe -- it makes the phone look like a Sony Ericsson from 1999 2001, and serves no purpose as far as we can tell. When Helio designed the Ocean, they used a silver line splitting the sides to create a slimming effect, and if we didn't know better, we'd say that's the impetus for this out-of-place touch.

The screen is a miniature 2-inches, though it looks fantastic at its 320 x 320 resolution and fairly high pixel density. It's impressive for its size, and certainly easy on your eyeballs. We'd again like to congratulate Palm on overcoming the 2-pixel white border surrounding the screen which has plagued the company's devices for as long as we can remember. Kudos.

We know the keyboard is on your mind, so here's the deal: it isn't that great, but it isn't a deal breaker. The phone is designed with the youth market (and women, from what we can tell) in mind, and if that's the case, they should be happy with the full QWERTY of the Centro. The jelly-ish buttons aren't exactly a joyride for us to press, though we've got massive, bear-like claws. The keyboard works; certainly better than T9, and definitely better than no keyboard at all. Still, you'll find yourself backtracking plenty when your nail hits a key next to the letter you meant to press.

The buttons on the "gray stripe" are more standard Treo fare, though their tactile feel on this phone is nonexistent, and we found ourselves re-pressing them constantly. They're too flush, and frankly too big for the purpose they serve. The 4-way rocker is good, however, and should be plenty responsive for anything you'll need it for. This is a good time to nitpick Palm on a design change they made a while back that really rears its ugly head here -- the movement of the "menu" button to the lower right hand corner of the keyboard. Sorry guys, you have to get to drop-down menus too often for it to be relegated to this useless and hard-to-reach corner. Fix please.

Another flaw which Palm's designers don't seem to get is the sunken screen. Look, do you even use your devices? It's a nerve-rattling pain to try and tap the sides of the touchscreen when you've got it buried seemingly four-inches-deep in the phone. The screen needs to be flush with the surface, or near-to -- this is a maddening and obvious problem which the Centro does nothing to correct. In fact, it seems to be amplified here.

Other than that there are no design surprises. All of the side buttons, sound on / off switch, awkward HotSync port, and 2.5mm headphone jack are in exactly the same place as every other Treo.
The OS
You'd think there wasn't much to say here that hasn't already been said, and you would be mostly correct. We won't bore you by detailing our complaints about Palm's aging (aged, rather) OS, but we will point out a few items of interest.

Firstly, this reviewer, having switched to the 750 and its Windows Mobile interface, had quite a shock returning to the Palm OS. We forgot how fast and responsive it can be, and it was a reminder of why we liked Palm to begin with. We know that WM has a lot more bells and whistles, Symbian is kept current, and the iPhone's OS X iteration is fancy as all get-out, but Palm still shines in a lot of ways. The system is fast, has very low loading times for applications, and makes getting most tasks done crushingly simple.

Of course, you know the trade-offs. This is not current software, and it shows. Palm has gone to the trouble of updating the look and functionality of some apps, like the camera and PTunes, yet most remain staid and ancient in appearance. We don't get it -- why not just give the OS a paint job if you can't rebuild it? Our minds are still boggled by the fact that Palm can't even fix the anti-aliasing on highlighted icons. Call us Ed, we know anxious teenagers just dying to skin your UI.

The company has added a few new apps as they've gone along, bundling the aforementioned PTunes, plus Google Maps, as well as a new IM app, On Demand (a kind of one-stop portal), and of course Sprint TV.

Speaking of, Sprint TV is a nice addition, giving you a pretty wide range of channels to view, with solid EV-DO connections -- though the resolution leaves something to be desired.

The IM app is also a plus, with a simple and straightforward interface that doesn't require much time to get comfortable with.
They also include DataViz's DocumentsToGo, a PDF / Word / Excel editor, but you're still stuck with Blazer for web duties, and the rest of Palm's vintage fare for general tasks. It works... but, bleh.
The phone
What can we say? The phone is good, and the sound quality is solid. Palm equipped the Centro with a nice loud earpiece and speaker, and both do their job admirably. One problem of note is that if you lay this phone on its back during a speakerphone call, you lose about 50-percent of your sound. The effect is almost akin to sweeping a resonant filter down on the signal, like the "underwater" effect you hear in your favorite rave anthems. Point being: keep it on its face (hey, you won't have to worry about scratching that screen!).

The 1.3-megapixel camera is nothing to write home about -- in fact, it's terrifically mediocre. The performance on the camera and camcorder apps is also sluggish to the point of annoyance, but we've learned to not expect too much in this department.
Little details -- like the prompt to add a number you've dialed that isn't stored in your contacts, and the "avoid with SMS" feature for incoming calls -- are Palm hallmarks that still feel plenty helpful.
Wrap-up
The real selling point on this device for a lot of people has been its much-touted $99 price point. Of course, you have to keep in mind that the figure takes into account an "instant discount, mail-in rebate, and qualifying two-year Sprint service agreement." Which means the phone isn't nearly as cheap as it sounds. That said, the fact the offer is on the table is a great move for Palm, and should help push a lot of these out the door.
It would be easy to love this phone, but there are too many minor hang-ups that contribute to an overwhelming sense of letdown. Nostalgic affection aside, it doesn't feel like Palm is taking advantage of the opportunities it has right now. Things like its complicated syncing process (particularly with Macs) don't jive with Palm's bid for the "youth market," who undoubtedly are interested in iTunes-like simplicity
Still, brainy teens, casual tinkerers, and young technophiles of all suits will probably be stoked on the wide variety of options for the money. Power users, early adopters, and those seriously jaded by Palm's inability to really deliver something new might want to look elsewhere.













Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
zeromerk @ Oct 13th 2007 11:56PM
Wow, the Palm Centro is just hideous.
karl @ Oct 14th 2007 2:06PM
well...i wouldnt say hideous....just booooooooooringgggggggg
ScOObyDoo @ Oct 14th 2007 12:14AM
It's astounding that a company with resources like this manage to build a phone that does no more than the very first Handspring device did.
There isn't a SINGLE innovation in this device. Not a single feature stands out and says "hey, look at me, I'm different".
Even at a $99 (subsidy price) level there is room for innovation and Palm have just missed every single opportunity. A mediocre device from a mediocre company. From basic design flaws to a limited and outdated OS, it's the phone you'd expect from them in 2003.
They are doomed to follow their Folio.
Phillip Black @ Oct 14th 2007 12:51AM
Hey I'm a well-rounded $99 Palm.
That pops out at me...........
B @ Oct 14th 2007 1:23AM
At first I agreed that Palm needs to do better, but then I remembered that WM smartphones are still, for the most part, stuck at 320x240 and 200 mHz.
craig @ Oct 14th 2007 12:34PM
You overestimate the resources they have. It seems pretty clear that they have virtually none.
B Blomberg @ Oct 14th 2007 5:07PM
That nonsense... Palm excel making smartphones, with the best Personal Information Management (pim) functionality, at the lowest price and that's what really matter, not if they add new almost useless programs - that might be fun, but you always can add as separate low cost programs...
Then is there some "missing features" that actually have BIG negative sides, as WiFi and GPS that eat battery... Or skinny designs, that instead are dramatically wider and don't have touch screens,,,
Finally wrote Engadget.. "Another flaw which Palm's designers don't seem to get is the sunken screen. Look, do you even use your devices?" ..forgetting completely that your face would both activate the touch screens and make it VERY greasy, if it NOT was safely located!
cm @ Oct 14th 2007 12:21AM
This phone looks like a toy. Hire some designers, or just copy apple already.
Constable Odo @ Oct 14th 2007 1:37AM
It was built by Mattel Toys. It was originally marketed as "Baby's First Smartphone". Make phone calls and teethe on it, too. Goo-goo.
Andy @ Oct 14th 2007 12:34AM
Awesome review! It's articles such as these that make me come back to Engadget.
I know that a consistent editorial style is important, but reading "we" so frequently, when it's obviously supposed to read, "I," is tiresome and seems a little dishonest in a hands-on review. I'm not trying to be snotty, I'm just wondering if an exception can be made for reviews to use the word, "I." It would really help the flow. And, not to nitpick, but in the second to last paragraph, please use "jibe," rather than "jive."
Ben @ Oct 14th 2007 6:42PM
It is called the "journalistic we". Google it.
Andy @ Oct 14th 2007 6:58PM
Ben, there's no need to be curt. I have a degree in journalism and I worked as a reporter for a year. I get it. I know what it means. But have you never read a column or an opinion piece where the word "I" is used? Google it. I see this as more of an opinion piece, which wouldn't require it.
kev @ Oct 14th 2007 12:35AM
The reason you'd probably want this is that it's got a smaller profile. That's it. My Treo 650 is all beat up now and needs a replacement.
Wifiguy @ Oct 14th 2007 12:36AM
Palm it's 2007 where's wifi?
peter @ Oct 14th 2007 10:05AM
With ev-do or 3G, you don't really need to have wifi at all. You get the same or faster speeds and are able to cut costs on the phone itself, so you can get a lower price.
grenness @ Oct 14th 2007 10:34AM
Wifiguy, I totally agree.
Peter, you're definately not the first who talks about evdo, edge, gprs/gsm data as a substitute for wifi, but you and everyone else with that point of view forgets all the millions of potential buyers *worldwide* who doesn't have the option of unlimited data subscriptions with their phone companies. Thus, we have to pay per MB down/uploaded, and at home or in the office or elsewhere where we can find free hotspots wifi support would be highly wanted.
And by the way, it just adds to my growing irritation that Palm seems to lag more and more behind the other phone developers in terms of specifications - why, I have to ask.
Jake @ Oct 14th 2007 10:34AM
Wifi is great because 3g and evdo don't work well in my basement but wifi does.
Talon Trax @ Oct 14th 2007 11:31AM
I don't have 3G where I live. WiFi is a requirement on my next phone.
perfectionist @ Oct 14th 2007 3:52PM
peter: faster speeds on 3G than wi-fi? not unless you have dial-up.
topspinserve @ Oct 14th 2007 12:43AM
"there's too many minor hang-ups"
I'm so tired of people making that grammar mistake...
prokanda @ Oct 14th 2007 3:20AM
Shouldn't that be "grammatical"?
jdrock @ Oct 14th 2007 12:43AM
This phone will find a fair-sized audience. But, they can definitely use a UI change in terms of theme. Palm's distinction from WM devices is its simplicity, but the graphic elements are too Win3.1(look at that dot-matrix'y scroll-bar!).
A touch-sensitive thumb-swipe sensor along the upper-right ridge next to the screen, may solve the goofy drop-down menu situ.
ole @ Oct 14th 2007 12:58AM
It would be great to see a head-to-head comparison of the Centro with a 755p. As someone with a 650 that wants to upgrade, this would be great. And no I'm not interested in Windows - too slow.
Michael @ Oct 15th 2007 12:18PM
Hey, well, I hate to break it to you (and the rest of the readers) but the Centro and the 755p are pretty much the exact same phone. In fact, the only difference is the form factor and the battery life (which is lower on the Centro -- 4.2 vs 3.5).
In fact, every other part of the phone is the same. Sad huh? Palm really needs to release new features in their phones. I work at a Palm store and when a customer asks me what the differences between the phones are I have to sadly tell them "Carrier and OS" because those are the only differentiating features to talk about. (With the exception of the 680 which doesn't have 3G and only has a VGA camera instead of 1.3MP.)
Good news though, I have heard from a higher up at Palm that they are working on a new Palm OS.
John Doe @ Oct 14th 2007 1:01AM
A shit OS is a shit OS is a shit OS. Wake me when Palm gets its head out of its ass and joins the rest of us in the 21st century with a modern OS. I'd rather use a stone tablet, which interestingly enough was introduced the year prior to Garnet, then use this monstrosity. Its an abomination for 2007. Hey here's a thought. Lets all go back to VAX terminals. Because progress is for suckers!
Hey check out my calculator watch! Its futuristic! It goes great with my Palm Centro.
B @ Oct 14th 2007 1:30AM
The problem is that, even being as old as it is, Garnet still works amazingly well.
Mark @ Oct 14th 2007 11:56AM
Yeah, why hasn't Palm made dramatic improvements to their OS like Microso..., uh, I mean like Noki..., uh, I mean like Motoro..., uh, I mean like Sony/Eric..., uh.... nevermind.
craig @ Oct 14th 2007 12:37PM
"The problem is that, even being as old as it is, Garnet still works amazingly well."
No it doesn't, unless your standards are really low.
celticchrys @ Oct 15th 2007 1:31PM
My old Palm OS based PDA runs circles around the Windows based mobiles all my friends have... it does _everything_ they do, and does it all far more quickly even though it has a slower processor! The only thing is lacks is eye candy, the functionality is superb. Why would I want a phone with a slower OS? I'd love to see Palm do a serious OS update for things like eye candy, but I'm not going to give up my functionality and speed in the meantime, just for the sake of bragging about having a new OS.
Appleman @ Oct 14th 2007 1:10AM
Apple should pay attention to this device. It is basically 4 year old technology but comes with a word/PDF editor and an IM client. At least Palm isn't stubborn and controlling, just stupid for thinking they could sit back and do nothing while everyone lapped them.
Constable Odo @ Oct 14th 2007 1:39AM
Don't worry, you'll see these features on the iPhone just shortly after Leopard is released.
Abbie Gonzalez @ Oct 14th 2007 1:58AM
Maybe Apple is waiting to stabilize the API's?
From what I have read, nearly every whine about Apple locking down the system is really whining about Apple fixing security holes and making the internal *non-documented* API. Sure, sue them for that.
Stop making my iPhone better Apple! I liked it when it had bugs!
Aron Trimble @ Oct 14th 2007 10:46AM
Yes, the Centro has about two features my iPhone doesn't; now pardon me while I go watch a movie on my massive screen after typing this comment using a real browser and free WiFi...
Pedro @ Oct 14th 2007 12:50PM
@appleman
Bravo! I agree. I love the iPhone and do want one but I can't use it until we have better notepad/memo integration with searching, copy and pasting, etc. I also need to install a few programs before I can use it; namely Epocrates (a medical program). Finally, I really like a tactile keyboard (though the virtual is not a deal-breaker by any means). Times like these I wish they'd just work TOGETHER to make things better!
Appleman @ Oct 14th 2007 12:59PM
@Aron
I typed my comment on my iPhone too!! Of course it's the best out there, but it's been 3.5 months with nothing new added except the iTunes store and Video out, hardly the features people have been asking for. When all of those early reviews for the iPhone came out, and everyone had their top 10 features that they wantd, I didn't seen iTunes Wifi store and video out on there. I saw landscape keyobard (how hard is this to add???) and bluetooth syncing(another feature the centro has that we don't) It is the best device out there in my opinion but I still get frustrated. Apple needs to spend more time fixing the glaring omissions instead of locking down the device.
SK @ Oct 14th 2007 6:51PM
The Engadget reviews misses entirely (maybe blinded by their Iphone idol) the central benefit of Palm OS:3rd party apps. The benefit of having been around for so long, without much change, is that there are innumerable programs that can loaded onto any Palm device. I use a half-dozen medical apps a day in the hospital, rarely with major issues. For Engadget to "yawn" at programs included on the Centro, when so many add-ons are available, shows how clueless they are about actually using a phone and not just staring at a phone.
As to "stabilizing" their API, let Apple fiddle as much as they want. I've had few security/stability problems with add-ons in Palm OS, and I think the consumer should decide what 3rd party application is worth the risk of "instability".
Adrian Corscadden @ Oct 14th 2007 1:10AM
Has anyone heard about availability in Canada?
nate @ Oct 14th 2007 1:36AM
I'd still like to know what the current market share is for Palm device and where it is expected to go by analysts and Palm the company, as asked here:
http://answers.nobosh.com/questions/What%27s-the-market-share-of-the-leading-mobile-devices%3F/126692/
Ryan Karolak @ Oct 14th 2007 2:21AM
I agree with Engadget that Palm should have at least given PalmOS a cosmetic face lift. Even Tapwave's Zodiac had a custom launcher giving it a more modern and efficient feel. The same is true with the Cliés.
Overall the Centro looks great. I don't plan on getting one, but if I did it's certainly a good deal if I needed a new 2 year contract, a smart phone, and save a little money at the same time.
Emily @ Oct 14th 2007 2:54AM
let's see... it's only $99, EvDO, 3rd party software (such as it is, the device doesn't need to be online to use it, unlike an iPhone), tethers as a modem to my laptop. Sure I'd like it to be prettier to look at, but wouldn't you like your pretty iPhone to be able to actually do something? I was looking at the Helios phones, but this has the software I use at the price I like.
Aron Trimble @ Oct 14th 2007 10:53AM
Sure the iPhone is lacking in some areas, but Apple put more innovation into its screen than Palm has put in anything in the last 5+ years..
Emily @ Oct 15th 2007 7:19AM
I would love to have an iPhone. But I need a phone that lets me use it as a modem for my MacBook so I can browse on an ACTUAL widescreen. I have friends that have iPhones and I've tried them for a minute here and there and I do love them, but it's just not what I was hoping for. Not yet anyway. One of the things I can't live with is only using the iPhone for browsing. The screen is too small. Sure it's cool to pinch the screen to zoom in and out but I need to use a MacBook on the road and sadly, I can't keep it all in Apple's house to do that.
emdee @ Oct 14th 2007 4:29AM
It's nice to se Palm putting some effort in to their phone making, and I'm sure it has nice features, but I just can't get over how damn ugly the thing is.
I probably wouldn't hate every second using it, but it's not a phone that would get any kind of positive response from people seeing it. It looks old, badly designed and at best, boring.
toast @ Oct 14th 2007 6:26AM
Palm OS is still great and superior to any WinCrap - it's solid and users aren't forced to relearn the interface every time management decides it's time to gouge consumers for more money. Though it's a bummer Palm moved away from full-size SD slots...
craig @ Oct 14th 2007 12:38PM
Anyone who says PalmOS is solid is either a liar or hasn't used a Treo 650. It's sad when you consider how incapable PalmOS is that it can suck so badly at what little it offers.
celticchrys @ Oct 15th 2007 1:32PM
I'm actually responding to craig: perhaps it depends on which device you have used Palm OS? I've used several models of PDAs with Palm OS by Sony and Palm, and they've been very solid, reliable, _fast_ running Palm OS.
Onetruebill @ Oct 14th 2007 7:48AM
You don't have to worry about the features.
The lead based paint on the keys will kill you fast enough that you can save on the extended service plan.
nswint @ Oct 14th 2007 7:54AM
Palm,
I love you and I want to see you succeed. You were my first PDA. Though my Sony-Ericsson phone and Blackberry have far surpassed what I can do with you. I still have my Zire 72 that was a replacement for my Ipaq. Here are some next steps that you should have your mobile developers to work on during the holidays for your new and existing phones.
*Dig Up BeOS (I miss my 15 seconds boots)
*Put a wifi chip onboard
*Tinker with BONE to get it working with wifi and bluetooth (make sure to turn of ftp and telnet), add little pluses like Bluetooth PAN support and wifi as an access point over the cellular connection (gsm/cdma)
*Up front Camera for 3G Calling (Integrate it with CodyCam)
*Replace Blazer with NetPositive
*Update Mail with BeMail
*Call Sling Media and tell them you want a SlingPlayer for BeOS (they're really smart and can figure it out)
*Slip Exchange ActiveSync in there
*Tweak mediaplayer to work like ptunes just better.
*SMS/MMS/VoiceMS App
That's all for now
strider_mt2k @ Oct 14th 2007 8:00AM
Enthusiast wishlists are the mainstay of the Palm community!
They didn't listen all this time, why would they listen now?
Don't bother. You are talking to ghosts.
The world has moved on, Palm.
Pat McKinley @ Oct 14th 2007 8:47AM
I just bought my Centro yesterday... and my early impressions are very good. The applications are speedy... the music and video are good enough quality to keep me happy.
I had a WM version of a Treo, and I'm glad to be back to the speedy Palm OS. All you people complaining about the age of the OS, and the lack of modern features... go buy a different phone. This one works just fine for me. WiFi might be nice... but I don't really copy that many files back and forth between my PC and my phone, and I can surf the web just fine with the Sprint data plan I've got. WiFi isn't that much of a deal breaker for me.
Flame away... but I think this Centro should meet my needs for 2 years until I can upgrade again.