iPhone v1.1.3 causing major issues with SMS message order?
By Ryan Block 
posted Jan 16th 2008 5:24PM
posted Jan 16th 2008 5:24PM
Apparently, a lot of iPhone users are experiencing issues related to out of order SMS conversations. [Thanks Mark and Sean]
What's the deal, have you seen this? Shout it out in comments.
This post intentionally out of order.
A lot of people were pretty damned stoked about the SMS improvements Apple unleashed upon iPhone owners yesterday with firmware v1.1.3, but it's not all turning up roses.
ughh i did the jailbreak update and it went perfectly.. even locate me works.. BUT THE STUPID SMS BUG IS SOOO ANNOYING
i cant restore it as it will brick my phone
any thoughts??
I've had zero SMS problems after the upgrade. Maybe SMS sequence issues affect only jailbroken devices. My iPhone is a standard Apple Retail Store purchased, unaltered device that performs SMS chatting as advertised.
got this sms bug.
To Steve Jobs: get off your money train and fix this thing!
I haven't noticed this with my 1.1.3
I haven't noticed this, but i have noticed it takes LONGER to send messages. Expected, with multiple recipients... but when sending to one person, why should the 1.1.3 update take longer?
Anybody else have this issue?
god, gir was like my favorite tv character of all time. props.
I havn't either but everything seems to be moving a lot more slowly
oh really? that's strange...
btw, FIRST!
same is happening to me, this SUCKS, very annoying...please fix Apple.
I've been having that problem. I've been wondering what was up
It just works?
I haven't noticed it. My biggest complaint is the cell tower triangulation. 18 miles from where I actually am is a bit ridiculous.
i think it just depends where you live and whatnot. the street i live on isn't even on some mapping sites (like mapquest) yet on my iPhone it can tri-angulate where i live incredibly accurately. within one house i'd say. its even shifted to the side of the street that my house is on. i was INCREDIBLY impressed by this new map feature.
Apple, and the iPhone, is not perfect, BUT they are innovative, creative and end-user minded.
maybe I just live in too small a city
I've noticed this, if you're sending and receiving messages from a user within 10-20 seconds it will occasionally flip the order showing that yours was sent after their reply.
So...
Me 5:30:10
Them 5:30:50
Them 5:31:05
Me 5:31:00
Never had that happen before 1.1.3.
classic
I don't think order of delivery of messages is guaranteed in sms, is it?
However, if it's getting the timestamps out of order too then that's a problem...
i have a problem with my touch not being able to connect to wi-fi. my laptop works just fine on the same network. it says it is connected to wifi but not working. this started when i updated
Restart or reset your router
I had this problem for the first time the other day. For some reason the DNS settings in the phone got screwed up. Change the IP address for the DNS settings to match the IP address of your router.
also under settings on the touch you can go to reset (in the general tab) and reset network settings
yup. Having the same issue and it's somewhat annoying but not too bad.
I noticed this problem an hour after upgrading. I sent a message, received a reply, and sent a new message. My new message I sent was grouped with my first message. Green-Green-Gray
I have just another problem!
Since yesterday my iPhone cut my Sms-history in pieces...
Now i have one "Folder" with 2 Sms from my girlfriend, all the other SMS from her are in a different conversation with her Mobilenumber, but not her name!
Really strange bug :(
Oh great, they pushed out this update just for MacWorld.
That's okay, I'm sure a patch will be released. It will cost 20 bucks.
Yea just about every conversation is jumbled up on mine, it is ok when they first arrive but when I go back and look later they are messed up
It's been happening to me. Thought I was going loco.
But, but, but, apple products are perfect right...
I think wot your looking for is: "It just works"
Never heard a single person say an Apple product is perfect and doesn't have any problems, especially not the iPhone.
"Never heard a single person say an Apple product is perfect and doesn't have any problems, especially not the iPhone."
Oh come on, you have never heard that? Have you read the average apple comment threads (especially those related to the iPhone)? Cracks about it being the Jesus phone stemmed from the over the top rhetoric that essentially made it sound like the messiah. Certain individuals in the apple community have a distorted view of reality rivaled only by certain individuals in the Linux/FOSS community.
That said, there are plenty of reality conscious apple fans that will cop to the fact that v.1 apple products generally have a decent share of flaws (would be Air owners get that apple care plan) and that Apple's QA department apparently takes long lunch breaks.
@Josh
Windows has just as many zealots as any other OS. Every popular product has a percentage of fanboys. Singling out one group just makes you look like a fanboy from the other group.
My recommendation to anyone having wonky SMS issues after the update to 1.1.3 is to delete all of the conversations from the SMS list and start fresh.
Anyone willing to give this a go and report the results?
I activated my iPhone for the first time yesterday and I have not had any trouble with SMS. I think you idea is valid.
I can confirm this - I deleted all conversations, and have not had this issue (yet).
Granted I am not txt msging all day, but had a few to delete. Seems to be valid.
i tried this...still having the same SMS order Problems
ive had it a few times...a little fudged up...
I had it once or twice then i turned it off and powered it back on it has been good since.
Sausage fest?
message fest
Nope havent noticed this problem at all... Probably because im not using a iphone....hahahaha i have windows mobile
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Ohhh that's right, because your "smartphone" doesn't have threaded text standard.
Trust me, I came from a Mogul to the iPhone, and it's worlds better.
Actually, My smartphone has threaded text. I have the palm threaded text app installed on my tytn...
Boo ya
id prolly have an iphone but the lack of 3g is the deal killer for me....
oh yea... and the lack of keyboard
I said standard... :P
I had it on my Mogul too. Windows Mobile is nice, but it's just like it's desktop counterpart. Bloated and almost unusable. you had to wait for things to load. iPhone is instantaneous. Is awesome.
The lack of 3g is not that big of a deal really. Unless you tether, in which case I could understand.
How many have ditched Windows Mobile for the iPhone? How many have ditched the iPhone for Windows Mobile? There's your answer.
I ditched Windows Mobile for the iPhone. Actually, Windows Mobile was SO unusable that I ditched it for my cheap old Samsung flip phone. It wasn't until a month or so later that Apple cut the price on the iPhone and it finally seemed reasonable to me to pay a cancellation fee to escape the horror that is Verizon.
@reid:
I know WinMo isn't the highest on the 'pretty' UI awards, but I would hardly say it's 'that' unusable. I mean anyone who can read and has a brain can navigate around WinMo.
Personally, I'm one of the many that returned the iPhone because it just didn't do well for me. It played media real nice, but I also use my phone to do a ton of other stuff - stuff that the iPhone doesn't support, but at least WinMo does.
So there. And I know I'm not the only one. I've looked at the forums. I know.
@Drew
Who really cares if you can do it standard? you cant have custom apps without hacking on the iphone, whereas windows mobile is very happy with them, and i know for a fact Treo 750's and O2 atoms come with programs standard that all you need to do is activate. WinMo also syncs with exchange, has multiple input methods that are easily switchable (depending on the device) and has some very decent games.
Im not saying the iPhone sucks, but it isn't my cake.
I have personally not had this happen to me at all. I text well over 100 texts in a day, some quite rapidly and I have not experienced this. I also delete my inbox every night, so maybe it is something that might be cleared once the inbox is cleared?
I just noticed the issue. The SMS thread is all out of order.
Yes, I have noticed this as well, my replies are being bumped ahead of the message that they are replying to.
it flipped a couple at the end right before i updated but ones since the update are fine
Screw SMS. I want iChat. I want AIM & Jabber (ICQ, Yahoo & MSN would be nice, too). I couldn't care less about SMS. If someone's not online I'll call them or send them an e-mail.
Duodenum,
Just make a springboard shortcut to meebo or jivetalk. There you have it, IM on your iphone.
Duodenum,
IF you want IM, just make a web app shortcut for Meebo or Jivetalk. Instant IM on your iPhone.
Typical Apple. Seriously, who cares about threaded sms. All iphone users have to have to buy a data plan right? This is where WinMo prevails with third party apps.
If you don't like a program or if it's buggy, uninstall it and try another one, instead of waiting for the next firmware update to fix the problem.
or Better dont upgrade and Jailbreak the Phone like Helloooo
if you wanna use aim on your iphone just go to
x.aim.com/ty/#_startpage
This is totally free and works GREAT!!
Hey dude sup?
I updated and mine is working perfectly. I've had that in the past with 1.1.2 but it was like MAYBE once a month but I haven't had it yet since upgrading.
UPDATE: so it worked perfectly for about an hour. Now its every other but when the reply comes it pulls down the last message sent from the person and therefore goes green, green, gray, gray. So no luck on that one. Hey, at least we can still text until they get the fix out.
Wait for update Tuesday
Hit this all day today... about 300 texts today to coworkers and every 5-10 is backwards or moved.
I noticed this also, but a quick restart of my iPhone fixed this for me; I haven't seen any ordering issues or scrambled/split conversations since.
same problem ... sporadic, but annoying.
my phone has been at 1.1.1 (jailbroke) and i've had zero issues a simple turn off/on couldn't solve. i was already planning on waiting for a real incentive to restore my phone update, and 1.1.3, especially with this bug, isn't good enough in my opinion. my phone will be restored and updated the day copy & paste is added. PLEEEEAAASSSSEEE APPLE!!!!
I had this same problem, but I fixed it. The received text is labeled with the atomic time, while your outgoing text is labeled with the iPhone's set time. If your iphone time is behind the atomic time, the messages will become out of order. Just set the phone's time, and it works perfectly. I did this a few minutes after I noticed what was going on, and it's working fine now.
you mean set the iphone time to the time from the text ur receiveing please explain how u do this for thick people like myself, i dont understand exactly what u mean
@ Liz
Go to Settings, and click General, Date & Time. From there, turn off "Set Automatically" and set it yourself with "Set Date & Time."
no problem here
I personally have not seen this issue. However, I have had another issue which started yesterday - in that, my data plan with AT&T was canceled by them. I called customer service, and they told me that they had a system-wide issue with iPhone data plans unsubscribing themselves from the provisioning system...
i have been having this problem its a nightmare i cant believe apple have done this its the 2nd most important thing on any mobile and apple f***ed it up royally tho some arent having the prob so good for them but ALOT of people are....its has nothing to do with the network its apple, i love apple as much as the next apple fan but this has pissed me off
Yea, I have this issue, and its almost making me consider tossing the iPhone by the raod side and getting a Curve. I mean think about it, this is a pretty basic feature, I can understand if they didn't want to give us MMS or something I'll deal but don't mess up a feature the phone already has. I've tried everything and my SMS are still all messed up
really? gonna throw away your fone cause your texts are out of order? really? Because of a problem so minor that will undoubtedly be fixed in a short time? really?
...still not sure why people are so eager to update to the latest firmware immediately when there seems to be a problem of one sort or another for a good number of people. especially when the updates are voluntary. just sayin'.
I've yet to have this problem at all, and I've been SMSing quite a lot since updating yesterday.
Yep, I noticed this as I was looking at an SMS conversation last night. Weird.
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I see this problem as well. It's very annoying.
I must be so lucky. So many people experience problems with their iphones and I have yet to experience ONE. This is not happening to me at all. Nor does it take longer to send a text like some are saying. You all should have bought the phone when it was $600. I swear they started pumping them out too fast or something at the $400 price. Ya get what you pay for!!!
Actually I experienced this once even on 1.1.2
I have not noticed it on 1.1.3 YET.
I don't use SMS.
I haven't had the SMS issue, but since I did the update, my iphone doesn't always automatically acquire my LAN after waking it from standby, it just stays on Edge.
Anyone know if we can roll back to 1.1.1 and jailbreak?
ever heard of the phrase, 'its a feature and not a bug'? next thing you know, apple will charge you $20 to get fixed.
My iPhone is working a treat. But only time will tell...
I had an issue with this.
Same issue here.
Mine works great.. Sorry for the Bad Apples...
i got this aswell - as soon as i updated my wifi went dicky, it worked fine on the old laptop but wouldn't on my ipod touch and i was connected with full signal - weird but lovely little thing
I have found that my phone messages now play through my bluetooth headset whereas in 1.1.1 they did not play through the headset. After that, I listened to ipod music for about 20 minutes through my bluetooth stereo headset that i had just listened to messages through. Sadly, I cannot get the ipod to play via the bluetooth again, maybe this was just a fluke. Does the iphone have A2DP? Even if it's only mono, i'd like to be able to listen to music via my headset, is this a current feature? Has anyone else been able to play music via their bluetooth headset?
its a bug if you go into your vm and change the option for speaker and put it on speaker with the bluetooth connected once you get out of it you will be able to listen to music through your headset. But it will still play through the speakers of the iphone. im not sure if they fixed this but maybe they left it alone.
no problem here, but I just bought an iPhone yesterday...
It's pathetic that Apple had all this time to implement a technology that existed before camera phones even existed and they still can't get it right. I am sure they will fix the issue, but it really is sad that they either (1) didn't notice the problem; or (2) noticed it and decided to release it anyways.
They knew about it... Look at the picture of txt on apples home page
Try zapping our PRAM.
stupid apple...
i've experienced this a few times since last night... i hope apple does something soon cause it's really annoying!
AHHH!!! It's happening to me, very annoying!!
Yeah, I noticed this for the first time today when i was doing a few fast back-and-forth texts. not insanely terrible, but still annoying