Palm's Treo 800w now available online from Sprint
By Joshua Topolsky 
posted Jul 13th 2008 1:45PM
posted Jul 13th 2008 1:45PM
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I will stick with my palm centro. I can't stand winmo.
I love how they jack the price up sky high and then give instant and mail in "rebates", a $251 price tag and 2 years of slavery. Thank you sprint for your generosity.
It's $350 to walk out the door with it.
Then you wait.
THAT'S what the potential customer will see.
I feel ya onelove, but from where I'm standing, at least for the time being, Sprint is the lesser of 3 evils. Verizon wants to control the internet world with an iron fist, AT&T will try to do the same thing, and screws over their customers just as much pricing-wise. Granted, Sprint would probably be doing all this if they had the funds and resources, but alas they're behind Verizon and AT&T in terms of worth, so I'll stick with the weaker, and thus the less evil of the three.
I switched to a Centro and hate it ... tiny keyboard ... tiny screen ... slow ATT data ... lame almost unusable o/s ... too bad we can't put Windows Mobile on it ... it's so much more friendly and shows next appointments and emails and alerts on the main screen .. alerts always disappear on my Centro when a button is accidentally pressed even when the buttons are "locked".
I should have waited for the new Windows Mobile Treos. :(
I bought two Treo 800w from telesales today and I tried to lead the sales associate to provide me with additional incentives to purchase the phones. She never got my clues, so once I was approved I just asked that I was still thinking about getting iPhones at $199 each and was there any additonal discounts available. She said she would ask her supervisor put me on hold for 25 sec. and came back with a $50 credit to each line once billing started. So I paid $349 x 2 and I will receive $200 mail in rebates and $100 service credit. So when all is said and done I will have paid $400 total plus $12 s/h. Oh yeah ask to have the activation fees removed bring up if you were to purchase online they waive the activation fees (some people have said that this didn't work for them). There was no hard negotiating I just had to ask for additional. Although to get these results you should probably act while the new iPhone frenzy is fresh.
@Chris Are: I agree. Not to mention that they have the fastest 3g network in a lot of places (including where I live) and charge the least of the big three for unlimited 3g data ($15/month). That isn't to say I wouldn't switch if someone else beat them at this game. I just haven't seen it yet. So far I've had incredibly little trouble with them and I've used the service since 2003 at least.
looks fugly to me
I'm getting one :)
Whoa, I'm sure there will be queues.
I am sure Sprint and Palm's servers will be disabled by the demand.
Has anyone else here heard of many Americans who do not know what a "queue" is? (Hint, it means line)
Can one person actually be considered a queue?
That means you guys check the Apple Store every minute???
Why? At that price? Drop it to $150 and people might buy it.
looks great something I would get if I was on sprint
Yeh, right. :p
And they might also stab their own eyes with red-hot pokers. :D
@stef
hey, i think you hold the rank for greatest number of lowest ranks. except for flashpoint and clak of course.
your bag of internets is in the mail.
Gotta be better than my Moto Q9c.
I've got buyer's remorse on that one, and my workplace only offers mobile email on Treos.
Lucky for me, Sprint goofed and gave me a $350 rebate, so I didn't pay anything for the Q ;).
well if your company runs exchange then you can add your exchange server to your WinMO phone by going to Start > Activesync on the right menu button add server source add your email server like you were configuring outlook at your office like companymail.company.com and add the login / pass that you use to log into your company computer and you should be golden.
When you say they only allow Treo's do you mean PalmOS or WinMO. If it's WinMo then you can add any device for direct push unless they have it blocked on their exchange server. We run Exchange 2007 and only use WinMo phones in our company but we have a few people set up which have PalmOS on personal accounts. Good thing with Exchange if we term them, we can just do a direct wipe of their phone over the air. :)
This was the phone I was dying to buy in 2006, now not so much.
This is a great form factor - ergonomic and attractive - so why spoil it with W? Palm OS is intuitive, touch screen friendly and does the job. (If anyone has ever had a play with a Treo 680, they will know what I mean.) Only flaw in the 680 is it is chubby and lacks a decent camera. If Palm produce an 800P with 5MP auto focus camera, VGA video, FM radio, WiFi and GPS - I'm in. Else, it a Nokia E71 for me. (iPhone's keyboard is a big no no.)
Palm OS is an old, clunky, visually disgusting operating system. It's for those users who don't want or need a more advanced OS capable of richer UI's and decent application support.
Sorry palm, you had it going on like 8 years ago...but apple has taken your place in the mobile platform wars.
I was looking forward to this phone, I was tired of palm os, and I found their sdk, lack of tutorials and relevant documentation meh at best, so I switched to apple for the 3g iPhone.
Key negatives for this phone are : $350, $100 back after a few months (if you're lucky, I never got my rebate for my centro), and you can't get an upgrade unless your 2 year contract is close to being up.
Key positives are : Keyboard, small size, ability to edit office documents (though macro support in excel would have been very much appreciated...but probably not possible without huge overhead), and lots of 3rd party apps that are already out, like pdaNet, which lets you connect online through EVDO Rev A on a laptop, and you only pay for your current data plan (no $60 bucks a month BS). Also, there should be a decent nes/snes emu out for winmo, so you can carry old school classics wherever you go.
It's not Palm's fault if you or Sprint messes up your rebate, you should definitely contact Sprint if you want your money.
Also, you can upgrade your phone with a discount after 1 year into your contract. Infact, you can upgrade your phone at anytime if you are willing to pay for it.
just looking at it makes me sleepy.
C'mon Palm, you're killing yourselves in the Enterprise market by releasing new phones for Sprint before you release them on ATT/Cingular.
Er, ATT/Verizon.
more expensive than the iphone... after $350.00 in discounts/rebates... and it's ugly as sin and on a crappy network...
anyone camped out for this thing yet? didn't think so... and to offer it the same weekend as the iphone? epic marketing fail...
and it's old school ugly.
Actually Sprint has the best network, including data network, in the US. But they are definitely dead last in customer service.
@ Chuck
I would have to disagree with you on that one. I mean as far as customer service, sprint does not have a win. Verizon is up there with them if not beating them. Now Verizon's data network needs a lil work but they defintely have a better network than Sprint.
Wow....there sure are a lot of soccer-moms on here pretending to be the corporate type and say that they can't live without their 3G iCrap. If any of you have ever tried to send an email without a physical QWERTY keyboard, you would see where Palm has a valuable market with their device...
...is the form factor the sexiest..no...but it is functional. I am now holding out for the HTC Pro / Rafael for Sprint, but still don't mind my current 700wx.
So stop your whining already you Treo haters...and for you Apple folks...I think the kids are still waiting in your minivan...you better go check on them.
BTW...anybody else notice that the 700wx is not available on the Sprint page since the 800 is now available.
same holding out rafael, and best part i wont have to camp in front of a store to get one.
That's because the 800w is the successor to the 700wx.
I also noticed the HTC Touch got a $150 price drop to $99.
@ Tony
That's the real deal here. The Touch at $99 is the bomb.
Cost of ownership of the iPhone over 2 years: $199 for the phone. $40 for the voice, $30 for data and $20 for unlimited messaging. Total cost of ownership = $2400+ for 2 years.
Sprint SERO plan with the Touch: $99 for the phone. $30 for the mobile phone bill (includes 500 minutes, unlimited data, unlimited text messaging). Total cost of ownership =
It's available in store today as well. I played with it for about 2 minutes, it feels and looks great, but winmo is a bit complicated. The feature set can't be beat though, it's basically a Mogul with a treo form factor, which is a good thing.
To its credit, it has a 320x320 screen -- higher resolution than any other CDMA phone, and it's got 128MB of RAM -- also higher than any other CDMA phone.
As it stands, it's the most technologically advanced CDMA phone out there... until September.
So no, it's not a bad phone at all. It's just not enough better than our current phones to warrant getting excited.
"and it's got 128MB of RAM -- also higher than any other CDMA phone."
...Actually the several year old Treo 700WX also had 128MB of RAM. I don't think it's so uncommon.
mail-in rebates are scams. don't support that shit. teh moar u kno.
Mail-in rebates are designed to scam ignorant people who can't read instructions and who have no common sense. They're fine for the rest of us.
Keep photocopies of all your records and documentation, mark down on your calendar when your rebate should arrive, and keep the 1-800 number handy in case it doesn't.
@AssMan - being 100% valid has nothing to do with it. I've had more valid rebates denied for items being 'lost' or photocopied when it didn't specify, whatever. They are a scam, and as the OP said, don't participate in them and maybe they'll go away. Like you should.
Of course, you obviously have the free time to chase down your rebate when it doesn't show up.
haha, assman, frank just pwned your ignorant, illiterate, corporate brown-nosing ass.
lol... Still has a keyboard ... So last century
I'd much rather type on my Centro than a iPhone any day.
Plus SERO rocks.
Yes, being functional is very much last century.
snapa : you know, I thought the same thing until I tried out an ipod Touch, and found that after a little bit of practice, I could type faster on it than on my centro.
welcome to the future. Bye plastic keyboards.
Dare defy the iPhone? Your punishment:
2 years with winmobile or palm :)
Good luck !
so how do you use your computer?
were talking mobile phones and hey asks about computers ...
Idiot
I'm an apple fan too, but the people's reaction is not cool about the iPhone. In fact, a lot pcworld people owns it right now. iPhone sucks
and that's why everyone is buying it and it was invention of the year 2007... Wow your a smart one :)
Neither of you make any sense to me whatsoever.
making fun of someone for not being smart.... and incorrectly using a simple word like "your" (should have been "you're", kiddo) doesn't really help whatever [idiotic] statement you were trying to get across.
part of getting people to understand where you're (see... TADA) coming from is properly wording your (AGAIN.. tada) opinion.
now, go out and play squirt guns.
Just added the 800w to my $30/mo SERO plan. Sweet!
Might have something to do with FrankenGarnet being horribly outdated, and having very poor support for the features on this phone. On the bright side, the rumor mill says that this hardware might be what Nova debuts on...
(And, before the Palm OS fanboys get offended, I do like it - I'm typing this on my Centro - I'm just willing to admit that it is outdated.)
I don't know about soccer mums I didn't think IPhone fanboys knew what a woman looked like, much less felt like
That's ironic - I have a picture of your Mom on my iPhone.
BTW, No more SERO plans, now the employee referral plans are Simply Everything plans with a $10 discount.
If you're on SERO, better make sure you're grandfathered in!
that would be beast in palm os form
Why is it that every phone post around here turns into a fanboy flamewar? We are all here because we love technology and new gadgets. To each his own right?
it's the same with any product that has different incarnations from different companies.... I'll admit, if I've had a bad experience.. or I've been able to compare something side-by-side and one was better, I'll bash the bad things about the lesser of the two items.
it's just the nature of competition.
everyone's going to pick a side.
yes, you make a good point about people behaving even though they've picked their side... but you and everyone else on this site know that common sense of that caliber will never come to pass.
one person from one side of the argument will always rile up someone on the other side.. and then the rest come in for back-up.
that's just how us humans are.
I've owned every new Palm phone ever since the 650 and by far this is the ugliest phone out of all of them. Also I don't know where Sprint started to grow some grapefruits thinking they can overcharge for the same customer service and same old technology when their phones haven't come close to any of the other carriers. I've been a loyal sucker for over 8 years now and when my contract is up in January no more upgrades and if they pull any extra charge crap I'm dumping them and pulling out my old tin can and string.
Palm succeeds in making another fugly phone.
Exactly.
I mean, the whole reason I buy a smartphone is because it looks "cool" or "sexy". How well it works or its features are totally irrelevant. This is 2008 after all. duh.
I don't even care if they make calls or can do MMS just as long as people don't judge me based on the crude aesthetics of my mobile (shudder).
There is only one true measurement of a good smartphone which Palm doesn't get: how good are their commercials.
If my phone isn't pirouetting and glossy with child music playing in the background...I don't want it.
Exactly.
I mean, the whole reason I buy a smartphone is because it looks "cool" or "sexy". How well it works or its features are totally irrelevant. This is 2008 after all. duh.
I don't even care if they make calls or can do MMS just as long as people don't judge me based on the crude aesthetics of my mobile (shudder).
There is only one true measurement of a good smartphone which Palm doesn't get: how good are their commercials.
If my phone isn't pirouetting and glossy with child music playing in the background...I don't want it.
Stop making obvious comments with bad grammar.
Anyone notice this so-called piece of garbage according to the iphone wackos is doing something an iphone can only dream of.
TURN BY TURN GPS DIRECTIONS IN REAL TIME!!!!!!
Yah, Sprint's network is the best in the US by far, ATT sucks.
too bad i come equipped with turn by turn navigation... it's called a sense of direction and applied common sense. i guess it's a declining genetic trend.
as i said in another post... i prefer overhead satellite imagery for landmark ID with road overlay and blue dot tracking me. it's clean, neat, and not fisher-price looking like tom-tom and garmin.
i also don't need another female voice trying to dictate to me what i should do... but i understand a lot of people like to have it all spelled out for them for the times when applying oneself is just silly.
"overhead satellite imagery for landmark ID with road overlay and blue dot tracking me"
So... Google Maps? Available for Windows Mobile too. /clap
@BaseVilliN
yeah... but it works better for people equipped with talent who don't like being nagged by a voice.
Ah, yes of course. It's better to have no choice what to use.
@BaseVilliN
dunno if you heard... there's this thing... called the App Store... and TomTom wants in...
http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/06/10/tomtom-announces-iphone-gps-app
but again, i don't care to have fisher-price and something that sounds like my mother-in-law giving me directions. and... unlike TomTom... i don't have to be on a road for it know where i am and what i'm doing.... case in point... drop a pin... locate a place to go... and you can have directions mapped on streets... or you can go whatever way you want... walk, bike, drive, segway, fly, base jump, repel... and it doesn't inform me i'm offroad or advise me to get on the road...
it just tells me where i am and lets me see where i want to go... and it just follows me... perfect... simple... uninvasive... and doesn't require a lobotomy as a user requirement =)
anyone notice that the battery is only 1150 mAh? can that be right? the 700w and 700p both have 1800 mAh batteries and they have to be charged every day. i suppose it is to make the device thinner but that would suck if it doesn't last all day...
Oh my god!!! They actually think this thing is worth $600, retail? Are they kidding? I know all the companies do this, but it is such a joke. I'm not sure if it is even worth $250, considering you have to sign a 2 year contract, but it is an absolute joke at $600.
I haven't heard anything on this being exclusive, so you could just go get it at radio shack and it will be probably cheaper and with instant rebates.
BTW, this iphone vs. palm argument is ridiculous. I personally own a centro on an employee plan and love it. I also have a tmobile line that i wouldn't mind having an iphone on, but they would serve two different purposes. One to impress people, and one to just talk on and get work done...
I'm not quite sure you can call it an argument. More like beating a dead cat. I'm gonna pick mine up in the morning. I looked at this phone on Saturday and decided that I would prefer this over the Touch because of the Wi-Fi and the GPS...
I'm considering buying the 800, but my co-worker says to wait for September because a better phone is coming. What is it and is it worth the wait?
What is coming in September, I want the 800 but my co-workers say to wait for a better phone. What do you think?
You guys need to quit camparing everything to iphone. I would love an iphone too. but im not gonna leave sprint for a phone not to mention my bill going up at least 50 dollars a month.
I dont think phone exclusivity is right.
You know that if iphone wasnt locked down, verizon and spront would have models of them that would blow att(hitler) out of the water.
Att and verizon are becoming monopolies, you can tell by their pricing. and as they get bigger and bigger they will raise prices more and more.
I get all i need, 500 at , un n&w starting at 5, unlimited data, and text for 22 a month. I love sprint.
well the form factor is good and qwerty keypad i love it id rather do swap my crappy iphone to this baby here....
whew iphone sucks
READ THE FINE PRINT ENGADGET!
The phone is actually $350 (with 2-year contract) YOU ONLY GET THE $100 mail-in REBATE WHEN YOU PURCHASE THE $25/month DATA PLAN..
Just another way to sucker you into a data plan especially when this thing has wi-fi..