iriver Spinn caught on video, kills without words
By Thomas Ricker 
posted Aug 4th 2008 2:11AM
posted Aug 4th 2008 2:11AM
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hey, you can play pong on it!
Unrelated-
Some of your comments and particularly ones made in that post which included the cop body-checking the cyclist have made me a Phan of Phanbouy.
Nearly 3000 comments? Thats insanity!
ha.. guess so. but i'm sure i'm pretty low on the word count heirarchy!
http://www.mncast.com/player/index.asp?mnum=5401069&prevmnum=5419070
"Nearly 3000 comments? Thats insanity!"
No its caketown.
@T Jefferson
Insanity? rofl... Yeah that's the word for it...
Don't worry... things will change when he moves out of his parents basement and gets a job. ;)
only someone with intimate firsthand knowledge of his parents basement would name himself "anonymouspimp"
I did, in fact, live in my parents basement for... i'd say roughly 6 months after I finished college. There was indeed a lot of pimpin' going on in that basement. Alas, I have since moved on to much nicer accomodations.
I'll have your mom send you down some hotpockets in a few... ;)
"only someone with intimate firsthand knowledge of his parents basement would name himself "anonymouspimp""
I resent that
so dark I can't see. . .
Looks Sweet, maybe I'll ditch my efforts in getting a touch..lol
What fun is a device you can't jailbreak :p
Why buy something that you have to fix in the first place...
It's lovely and all but I seriously can't stand using devices with weird choppy framerate for the UI.
It messes with your head.
if I had to guess I'd say youtube is at fault
I totally agree, I bought a HTC Touch Diamond. It is as slow as hell, it really gives me a headache.
yeah, welcome to the same hell as Windows Mobile. I have yet to use a WinMo device that's snappy. And sluggish is bad enough for UI's, but it's absolute killer for a touch-based UI.
really. if they can't get the UI looking and feeling at least basically smooth, it hardly matters to me how "neat" it is.
and no, it's not a "youtube thing" that made the UI look janky - that was the UI. Now it might be unfinished or something, but they can't blame youtube for that one.
quadrafail
is the message here: Buy our Mp3 player, and can't pay for power to your house?
Nice, but can they hire a professional graphic artist to do their icons using color?
Still, it seems good .. icons not of my taste is no reason not to buy it.
But..
I'm still waiting for the Sony Xperia X1.. I hate to carry multiple devices.
That phone is one of the sexiest phones ever.
I dont care what anyone says.
makest he iPhone look like shit (not that it looks that amazing in the first place)
I would have used to agree on the Sony X1, but the last shots of it that I've seen really made it look pretty uninteresting....
No doubt the X1's still in development...But I'd rather go with HTC's new Touch Pro over the X1 from what I've seen. :o
Looks pretty snazzy.
looks like the framerate is a little slow, like 15-20. not too bad, but it would look nicer if it were completely smooth, which is definitely possible based on the simplicity of the menus.
Probably a battery life thing.
or a "it's not done yet" thing.
Or maybe even a YouTube thing? Try one in Real Life.
is it sad that when i first saw Real Life i thought he was talking about some other video player or video website?
Hmm.. looks cool but I have no use for the mp3 portion of it (have a Zune subscription). What do you guys think about buying it just for the video? A waste?
iWant.
Looks to me like iPod Touch killer. Just slap on phone into it and you've got world domination.
There is no iPod touch killer, just as there is no iPhone killer, or iPod Nano/Classic killer. Not because nobody makes better devices (superior portable media players have been not only coming out, but beating the fruit-branded competition to the marketplace, since mp3 players came into being), but because realistically the devices can't be better /enough/ to overcome "the Apple factor."
i wouldn't say its the apple factor for ipods as much as it is the itunes factor. out of all of the DRM systems, itunes is by far the best, and lots of people have invested $$ into it, and dont want their music to go poof.
i mean, definitely the hipness, the ipod touch looks just as cool as the iphone, BUT, the ipod touch is holycrap expensive in the DMP arena. if this is cheap, it might have a shot at doing better than non-pods, but i don't expect anything to dominate apple anytime soon, as they keep pushing their DLC angle (and i reluctantly admit, they're doing a very good job with it).
Bottom line is DLC/DRM is an amazing way to create brand equity / loytalty. I don't think a lot of people realize that (thus the reason the xbox is so successful as well).
Except that Steve wants to do away with DRM, remember?
It's not that nobody can beat Apple, its that Apple's products are solid, with awesome design and user experience that is (overall) second to none. That is why Apple is so firmly entrenched right now, not the relative ease of FairPlay.
People don't see me buy music from the iTunes Music Store and say, "Wow, I've gotta have an iPhone/iPod/MacBook so I can do that!" They hold the device, see what it can do, experience it for a few moments; and THEN they say it.
I think you'll be hard-pressed to find a DMP as thin, powerful, and full-featured (especially now that the App Store has launched) as the iPod Touch for a significantly lower price.
Making good products is an amazing way to create brand equity / loyalty.
your first comment in nine months, and that's all ya got?
tetrafail
I'd hold off on buying one for the time being. The devices seems to have several problems (according to reviews from users who already got their players in Korea) concerning video playback and DMB, although they should be able to fix it through firmware updates. Also there's some controversy over the fact that the screen only shows 65k colors (compared to 262k which is more or less standard in mobile devices today), and the fact that the specs are generally lower than the model they showed at CES. No memory card slot, no 3d graphics chip for the UI, mediocre battery life etc.
Also the UI seems like it was designed more for a stylus (typical of iriver's tough interfaces). Look at the size of the "OPT" button at the top and the scroll bar at the bottom of the main menu.
I really have to give it to iRiver for trying something new with their user interfaces. In a world where just about everyone tries to make an interface that gets as close to an ipop as you can without having to pay royalites, iRiver really seems to be pushing the envolope with other ideas that are really innovative and at times ahead of themselves.
I know I've been very happy with my clix2, this thing reminds me of the way the original clix looked. Very cool, probably wait for the second rev of it to hit in a year or so.
Looks good, perhaps I'll buy one of these, but not sure what to get with quite a few different brands coming out at the same time.
iRiver looks like its stepping up to challenge Sony and Creative.. sounds like fun, despite how Sony and Creative might just crush the competition..
Can't say for sure, I'm still a bit frustrated over my crappy 30GB iPod Video..
Cheers,
Nick
except Creative lost its way. The Creative Zem was a sub-par device, and the new XFI is just a little better than its predecessor the Zen. Even die hard creatives fan will concur that the last good product worth really buying from creative was/is the Zen Vision and the Zen Vision W.
Now as for iriver, a nice interface, AMOLED screen, and cool way of controlling a device isn't going to make up for the disappointment this device turned out to be. This was suppose to have a microsd card slot and go up to 16gb of space, but it has no card slot and we would be lucky if it even goes up to 16gb of space. Sound quality of the latest batch of their devices are also pretty bad. The company is going down the hill after their good CEO left to start his own company MintPass. The new CEO is out sourcing some of its parts to China so it keeps cost of the them down and while still charging a premium for a device that is nothing specially any more.
Sony, Samsung, and Cowon are so far the only ones not to go down hill. I would say Toshiba too but all their good stuff is in asia.
Hey this is a cool launch. Does it have memory if yes how much?
It looks nice...a PSP with a touch sensitive screen?
I don't see the advantage of the roller control over, say, a blackberry wheel for instance. I wonder how easy it is to see something off after you've turned on the tunes and put it in your pocket.
About games - what platform is it? Will it support other apps? Can you text on the screen? I didn't see that. Basically I'd need a LOT more information.
song is activation by john blackford.
This looks amazing-- I really like how the menus were laid out, except for the tiny buttons at the top of the "Now Playing" screen.
The one question that I've got to ask is, what music is that in the background??
song is "activation" by john blackford. actually the first song that is played on the device during the demonstration.
megafail
Is that really an OLED display - It looks like it has a backlight? OLED displays don't use backlights!?
I am rather disappointed with this user interface. Only the opening screen with this left/right moving line is fresh, but as soon as you start digging down into it - there it is all again, small ugly icons, beautiful touch screen very badly underutilized.
And that is only the device - I would love to see the music software that comes with it, will there be a repository for flash applications so that they can be easily downloaded, etc etc? We all know answer to this, I'm afraid.
As "gad get" commented - iPod is a part of an eco-system and snazzy devices although nice - simply won't cut it anymore. Cool that they have DVB reception though!
looks nice...but clix2 is still the king of mp3 players
i know everyone here loves players with 2TB of onboard storage, but what i'd really like is a competitor to the Shuffle that actually has a screen and/or is cheaper
So you mean the Sandisk Clip? Comes in storage up to 4gb. iRiver did have the S10, and that came in 1gb and 2gb specs. Or the Creative Zen Stone + and the replacement model that is coming out. Or what about the Samsung U3 and U4 both come in 4gb specs. Oh can't forget the two devices Sony has. The one for the US market goes up 2gb while the newer Asian only version(atm) goes up to 4gb.
very cool. I want :P
I love iriver's designs and all (I even got a clix2-- love it) but at the end of the day I like being able to control my mp3 player with one hand
Now that's a DAP!
Flash lite 2.1 = Custom GUI's baby!!
But the real question is what does it SOUND like?
And to a lesser extent, does it play Doom?
I was really looking forward to this player. But, why would I buy this if I already have a Clix2? The only reason I'd upgrade is for more storage space, so if its true they no longer have an SD card slot then I certainly will not be picking on up. :(
No reason to. The clix has a better screen than the spinn. And with the new CEO of iriver you can bet the audio quality will be worse as well. Just like all their revamped players.
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@eric: You really should link to the comment when you bait like that. Anyone have the link?
WICKEDSICK FAIL
First iriver I've ever wanted, but I hate where they placed the headphone jack. Dunno where it'd be better though.
The only good thing is that it supports flash !!! For the rest the iphone or the ipod touch does everything better.
Yes, because I want a contract for my MP3 player.
would you like to prove how you know this? Or do you just know?
And its not a phone so you cannot compare it to the iPhone.
you Apple lovers are so fucking dumb!
*it has MSC, native USB mass storage mode. No iTunes needed, thankfully. Hook it up with virtually any PC easily for native (non-software) drag-n-drop goodness, two-way, not one-way and restricted.
*it plays FLAC and Ogg Vorbis
http://www.vorbis.com
http://flac.sourceforge.net
As I understand it, it doesn't have a removable battery, just like all iPods. As I understand it, it doesn't have removable storage, just like all iPods.
I also think the pressy-wheel thing is not the pinnacle of usability. Sound quality? Who knows until we listen to it. That is very much down to the hardware.
Audio codec support is different (IMO, better than Apple's AAC and Apple lossless offerings).
The lack of removable battery is very non-pleasing.
The lack of removable storage also very non-pleasing.
Clearly he said iPod Touch, which shares the UI of the iPhone and neither comes with a contract nor is a phone.
AAC is not Apple's standard, it is an open one. It also has no licensing fees involved, which can't be said about any other mainstream format (while I don't count ogg and flac among those, they are definitely nice to have).
macserv, I didn't say AAC was Apple's standard. Merely "Apple's offerings". Their lossless codec is their standard.
PS. AAC is by no means an open standard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding#Licensing_and_patents
"No licenses or payments are required to be able to stream or distribute content in AAC format. [8] This reason alone makes AAC a much more attractive format to distribute content than MP3, particularly for streaming content (such as Internet radio).
However, a patent license is required for all manufacturers or developers of AAC codecs [9]."
http://www.vialicensing.com/licensing/MPEG4_fees.cfm?product=MPEG-4AAC
Dayum, that's a sexy DAP!
Do want.
Hmmm...worth looking into.
1) initial menu not showing all items at once = annoying.
2) button having to be pressed down from the top rather than a more natural down motion on the actual roller = more annoying. Even a separate button just below the roller would be better and more natural than top-down.
I heard on Cnet it will come in a 4gb, 8gb, and 16gb with a micro SD slot for more space. If this is true I will be all over the 16gb. I’m looking to upgrade from my 8gb Iriver Clix which is an awesome player.
Respectable.
You can find more details at http://spinn.iriver.co.kr/
I know that this is the Korean version, but it will give a glimpse at it. The majority of the stuff is in English.
I give it a B+.
it would of gotten an A...but was lacking color, its to blane. and it needs to run a little smoother.
also...I'm curious about the price / release date / & GB sizes.
I must say, that's extremely well designed, and sexier then my iPhone. But sadly there is no love for us lefties in the world of technology. That's part of the reason why i didn't get a blackberry two years ago. Way back when they didn't have the trackball. Do want though.
Well if this thing sounds anything like my clix 2 which imo is teh best player on teh market right now for music that is then i might get it cause mine is only a 4gb and i could use the upgrade to 8gb..
But what ever happened to the nice UI they had on in the origanal photos of it? Hope a firmware update can make it look a little more colourfull and less gray.
This thing looks like a piece of crap!
Runs like a slug, is ugly, and why the hell do you even need the frickin' clicky wheel thing? Cheaper than iPod Touch, BUT, ugly as sin, with quality like a frickin' lego brick, no smooth edges, and worst of all capped at 8 gigabytes!
iRiver would do better not trying to imitate iPod. I mean, the touch screen here is more of a gimmick than on the touch!
I'll spend some more and get the good quality product, thanks.
This would have been perfect if it had some support for wifi / web-browser as well...
i got my iriver at www.consumerdepot.com
I just tried one of these out at my local electronics supplier in Korea.
GOOD: Its very well built, clean lines, the video is great; the guy in the shop said five hours playback time for video. iI didn't have a detailed look, but I liked what I saw. The screen is definitly big enough to watch a movie on on the train or something.
BAD: it is a bit laggy response wise, also the touch screen wasn't uber responsive (but this may have been because they had a plastic cover on it to protect the screen from customers trying it out.) It has a vibrate when you use the touch screen.
I'm thinking of buying one...
Hows the interface does it lag like 15fps or smth or is nice and smooth?
Is the iriver spinn released in Canada yet?
if so where can i buy it?