Looking for the latest in CPU spice to keep your gaming rig flowing? You'd better go find your wallet/purse and head to your local computer shop for a fresh Core i7 (
née Nehalem), because they are apparently available for sale
right now -- before most of the major sites have even received theirs. User gooddog over at the Overclock.net forums has
flaunted posted this picture of his recently purchased 3.2GHz Core i7 Extreme 965 CPU. Paired with an Asus P6T motherboard and running at the stock clock rate it scored a 5,606 in 3DMark06, in-line with what
earlier testers found. O/C'ed up to 3.8GHz it delivered a tidy 6,608, a mark that surely gives it control of
all benchmarks and, thus, the PC universe.
[Thanks, Adam]
posted Nov 2nd 2008 8:33PM
Change of pants.
I need them.
I need a little more than a change of pants.
me too, the money to afford these kinds of toys
My poor AMD just ran to the hills. Guess I'll need to replace it with a Core i7 *sigh*
...and a fresh pair of pants please.
But can it run Cr.......oh, it can? Heh.
1000 bucks for a processor ? whew.. there goes my kidney and my liver price combined to the highest bidder in ebay to afford one of those..heheheh
So yeah, I posted one of my kidneys on ebay. Starting bid $1000.
(100% of the proceeds will go directly to the "My Purchase of the Core i7 Foundation")
My auction is under "ARM + LEG!!! FREE PRIORITY SHIPPING!!!" starting bid $1000.95
Here's a full review of the Core i7 processors, chipset, overclocking, features, etc:
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=634
So its fast. Thats it!! The importance of blazing fast processor has been downplayed by current GPU.
Video encoding, ok.. GPU is faster by the faster Quadcore extreme by 15-20 times.
WEP2 signal cracking, ok.. GPU is almost 15x faster than intel quadcore.
Where else can the importance of 15%-20% faster processor have better impact other than old softwares (win 7 and Mac OS will harness GPU acceleration soon). --> taking into consideration that i7 is abit slower than core2duo processor in some games.
And the arrival of Larrabee (cough) will make "my CPU is faster than your CPU" thing in the past.
Soon after, faster processor will get your word start faster by 0.001s.
Sorry for this rude awakening :)
CPU's are still the limiting factor for games at lower resolutions, so they do serve their purpose there. That said, my 4.2ghz OC'd E8500 would probably out perform the first batch of Core i7's at 99% of the games on the market. This is purely a benchmark wankfest, but then again, it is a "tick" and not a "tock" so it's to be expected. If your time horizon between upgrades is 2 years or less, there is no reason why you shouldn't spend less and get one of the 45nm C2D's or C2Q's today. You'll save on ram, you'll save on the cost of the mobo, and the cost of the processor, and the performance will be pretty much identical.
Then again, if it means another 100 points in futuremark, there is no convincing some people
@ El Taco "My auction is under "ARM + LEG!!! FREE PRIORITY SHIPPING!!!" starting bid $1000.95"
(in a fake Mexican accent) Intel Core i7 she play Crysis, El Taco he not play Crysis, he only got one arm - ei carumba!
BananaBoat, I somehow highly doubt that your E8500 even at 4.2GHz could outperform an i7 920 at 2.66GHz. Look at http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/634/sisoft-mulitcore.jpg . Even at 100% overclock and over 6GHz (assuming performance scales) you would be getting about 18GB/s which is on par with the QX9770. But the i7 at 2.66GHz is achieving 32GB/s.
I may be completely wrong, but if you look at any of the benchmarks the Core i7 comprehensively beats every other previous generation CPU. That's why it's not a Core 2 Duo E9500. It's a new generation altogether. Don't forget about the integrated memory controller which is probably helping performance the most.
I meant for games specifically. In the rare application that takes advantage of four cores, it would absolutely destroy my E8500, even at 4ghz+. Then again, so would a Q6600, so that isn't saying much. In a dual threaded (or, have mercy, a legacy app that doesn't even take advantage of two cores) you'd be much better off with 2 cores at 4ghz than 4 at 2.5 (8 as opposed to 5 for dual). It may be a more advanced architecture, but it's not going to make up for that difference in speed. There is no doubt in my mind that by the "tock" cycle of development, the Core i7's will be killing the Core 2 Duo's, but for now, price/performance wise, people would be foolish to go for the expensive solution. That's just my two cents though.
I'm still of the opinion that 4 cores is a gigantic waste of time. Then again, besides using microsoft office and a few 3D modelling programs, all I do is play games (well, and watch videos).
Actually I did jump to conclusions a bit and didn't consider what you said specifically about gaming. You're right, with regards to gaming there would be zilch difference between the E8500 OC and a Core i7. Even though we're years into multi-core CPUs in the mainstream there are very few common applications that can really take advantage of more than 2 cores. Even 2 cores is a stretch. The only gaming bottleneck is the GPU, and has been for some years now.
I personally have an E4400 @ 3GHz, and it's still more than enough for a lot of applications. I'd have to upgrade my 8800GT to see any significant gains with gaming. Even 1080p decoding can be done on an integrated chipset with a low end dual-core.
I'm sure Intel has noticed that most people wouldn't see any difference between their older 65nm Core 2 Duo's and their new 45nm C2D's, C2Q's, and Core i7's. If it weren't for the tendencies of people to buy whatever vendors tell them they need, moores law would probably be done for by now. Then again, I'm sure one day we'll have 2560x1200 *or whatever* video that needs decoding, or games that won't run without the latest and greatest quad core processor, and this entire argument will be moot. That day just hasn't come yet.
unless you had two 4870 X2's in quad fire running COD4 at 1024*768 with a monitor capable of 300 frames per second, then it would totally be worth it.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i7-multigpu-sli-crossfire-game-performance-review/8
sorry for late post, exams
Wow yeah, do want.
"a mark that surely gives it control of all benchmarks and, thus, the PC universe."
I feel like that should be followed with a "mwhahahahahaha!"
Giggity
Does run crysis...same as C2Q. The difference is calculation-mistake-sized. So yeah, no need to change to Nehalem-Bloomfield if all you want from a PC is running games. Its expensive and doesn't give much (if any) performance boost.
But can it run crysis 2?
There is no Crysis 2.....
i think you missed the joke...
O_o...
With 3,8ghz I think it will run Crysis 3 :P
Great Processor :O
A joke? From the way people were getting low-ranked, I thought it was some sort of ritual social suicide.
What's this thing cost? WANT.
You can see the price on the box. $1075 for the CPU.
$1000 for a fuckin' processor?
DO NOT WANT.
Well Atropos, if you take into account that this is the highest end desktop CPU you can get (Or can't, since it isn't released yet.) it's a pretty good deal. It's like having the fastest street legal car. Except a car would cost a LOT more.
$1,000 bucks for a proc? I would totally hit that if I had the funds.
Don't forget that extra 95 cents. :P
"I would totally hit that if I had the funds."
Anybody would hit anything cool if they had the funds to dispose on it.
It's been Intel's standard operating procedure to price its highest end procs at around $1000, this is just a little more than that. AMD used to do it too, until they ran out of processors good enough to sell for a grand. Sad to say, but it is the truth. It's also true that any processor over say, $300 is overkill and you could probably find a much cheaper version that can overclock to the equivalent speed of this one, although maybe not the overclocked speed of this one. Again, it's also true that in 6 months this will be obsolete so spending over a grand on a CPU is a waste of money unless you simply must have the very fastest CPU available.
OCing to the same speed doesn't always get the same performance. Architecture and cache play an enormous role.
Core i7 motherboards and triple channel memory will also jack the price of a Nehalem system build relative to a Core build quite a bit.
I can't pick up chicks with my CPU though.
So when will the major companies have these in laptops?
Not for a while. This is a desktop CPU.
And chances are, if you needed this much power you'd just go for a desktop, considering how insanely priced high end, and even mid range laptops cost.
Thanks for responding...I prefer laptops...but w/e I'll just wait and see what happens.
Thanks for responding...I prefer laptops...but w/e I'll just wait and see what happens.
The timeline for notebook-grade Nehalem processors is next summer/fall, so you are looking at nearly a year from now. Even this processor is a server/workstation-grade processor. The actual desktop-grade chips won't be out until next year.
You are awaiting Calpella which is supposed to be out Q3 2009. So, you've got a while to save your pennies.
even the price is EXTREME... HEHE ^_^
When will the price for the i7 drop so I too can afford a giant e-peen?
Not for a long time.
However, the lowest end Core i7 will be $300. Of course, lower end Core i7s will come out after that for even cheaper.
hey, that's my local computer parts store - central computer!
...I'll be in my bunk.
LOL @ Firefly.
Way to screw up the comments man. the next one followed perfectly and you just HAD to reply to this one.
Fapping at quantum speed.
Why is every computer geek reacting to the Core i7 like Jason Biggs with Shannon Elizabeth? At least have the processor in your hands and not just at the mere sight/thought of it...
how about the thought of Shannon Elizabeth holding the i7 on my lap
*looks down at own pants* Now look at what you've done. :-(
Mental note: Wear diapers when browsing engadget...
Well I guess it all depends.
Depends......
This guy is a fuckin' GENIUS!
Well... by the time I have save money for my computer upgrade... I might be able to afford this... when it drops to $200
I will wait for the 6 or 8 core cpu´s.
Of course, because there are LOADS of apps that are compiled with 12-16 threads.
OH I WORSHIP THE NEW RECORD IN 3D MARK 06!!!
...not. By the way it isn't a new world record, is it?
dude...thats the benchmark for the cpu all by itself without graphics cards or anything. That cpu by itself doubles the 3dmark score of my laptop with an 8600m gt in it :-(
Mine is 5700+. C2Q OCed to 3.6ghz. Basically it means Bloomfield's extreme CPU won't give me any performance boost? Not that I didn't know.
Oh and don't bother comparing to a laptop, Bloomfields aren't going to have a mobile version (there will be a different, less power-hungry CPU late next year for laptops).
What I want to know is how the lower priced models compare against similarly priced options on the market right now..
But then again, it's not like I'm really in much need of a new processor. I bought my C2D e6400 two years ago, and it still handles everything I throw at it.
In Soviet Russia, Core i7 Benchmarks YOU!!!
I'd hate to see your benchmarks...
Someday, when 8-core processors become standard, we will look back at this post and wonder why so many trousers had to be soiled.
...and why so many geeks were going 'commando'.
HOLY F*CKING SHIT!!!!!
Man I wish I could get a pc with core i7 in it soon... Too bad I won't be getting a new machine for college until next year. But at least it will have Windows 7, hopefully USB 3, PCI express X16 2.0, Firewire 800, an Nvidia GTX series card, displayport, possibly a multi-touch 24" monitor, maybe even an SSD (probably like 128GB 2.5" mounted in a bracket-adapter thing to make it fit in a 3.5" bay), most likely DDR3, probably a 1.5TB drive for data storage, 8GB of Ram, maybe (and I mean Maybe) blu-ray, but I loved HD-DVD so IDK if i can go down that route, a really nice case that's quiet and not too big, blah blah blah...
And of course something we can never forget: a nice, fast 3.5" floppy drive, right? Lol
Damn I can't wait until I get to build this machine next year!
HD-DVDs and floppy drives? The hell? Toss in a BetaMax reader and you're set to go.
what was the point of that?
Anyone besides me starting to think that the engadget comment sections are starting to look more and more like /b/? It appears that the cancer is spreading to the rest of the internets....
So will this thing plug right into my 2008 MacPro?
Ah ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha....
No.
Wow! I'd stop to look at the box if ever I'd find one in a store. Looking at expensive stuff is still free right?
Well, at the very moment you make a double-take to look at this cpu, the store manager will come to chop off your arm and take it away. If you decide to buy it, they'll take your leg as well.
What kind of motherboard slot does this take?
I Guess Alienware is going to show off some new desktops tomorrow with these in them. For some reason they send me emails and the last one said " Countdown Till Launch 11/3/08 The Evolution Continues" so I'm just guessing but it makes sense.
wait 6 months before buy for get a good performance/price ratio... In 6 months, im gonna get a new computaaah.
I'm pretty sure their $300 chips have a very good performance/price ratio.
mmm yeah its true, there is one at 300$... niiiiiice!
So can we expect the folks at AMD to pull a "The Happening" when they start seeing the results of these OC'ed marks?
"Reports are coming in of an "Event" happening at AMD's corporate headquarters. Everyone's jumping off the roof!!"
ಥ_ಥ That thing got higher 3dmark06 scores than the GPU I'm currently using. OMG.
Ahhhh... the sooner Core i7 rolls out, the sooner the price comes down on that Q9550 I've been waiting on...
http://digg.com/hardware/I7_is_out_in_the_wild
^ the original digg, as linked in the OP over @ overclock.net
i'm going to need $1100... $1000 for the proc, and $100 for the keyboard i just ruined with my drool... i now have to type on one of my older keyboards...
if you look at the picture link some guy bought 5 of the i7's for $959
HOLY SH*T!
LOL.
JUST DON'T FORGET THE BLU GENE!
YEAH!!! AMD going down quickly I LOVE IT!! I have bought intel my whole life and hadn't had any problems. Once I got in the IT field all the nerds and geeks I worked with touted AMD, but yeah, they'll be left behind soon enough! If not by this processor, sometime in the future, their demise IS IMMINENT!! CONSOLE GAMING FOR LIFE!!!!
@EK
Nice to know you work in the IT industry. How is Dell customer service support working for you these days?
If you had any clue then you would realize that the demise of AMD would leave Intel with virtually no competition and and as such: you'd pay more for less since the incentive to better the competitor is gone.
Nice, I have been waiting for this for a while. Unfortunately this is not up on Newegg or Tigerdirect at the moment...probably take another week or two.
Change, Yes (Intel) can!
I have it, and it's pure sexy, so worth the money. The proccessor is just mainly a place holder for future CPU's to hit the market.
But it does rock my socks, Raid 1 on 2 32GB SSD, and my 9 GB 1600mhz Ram. And I get a nice little 9 seconds to boot to desktop. + it loads crysis to max all, with my GTX280 SLI combo. :)
It's OK I'll pay more for less, no problem.......I make more than enough AND as long as it is intel I am IN!!! HAHAHA DELL CUSTOMER SUPPORT HUH? NO try Department Of Defense IDIOT! I am an INTEL FANBOY because I stick by products that have been tried and TRUE TO ME! not news reports or others experiences. Intel has done nothing short of impressed me all my life! Sooo, to sum it up, I don't care what it costs, I don't work for Dell, and Nerds and Geeks bother me. sorry. I gotta go throw around the old pigskin in my $1M+ home, have fun making dumb comments about things you care about, all I care about is INTEL!