Hey Sprint, you listening? Granted, GSM doesn't do Sprint a whole lot of good in the States, but swapping a CDMA radio into HTC's first WiMAX effort here would make for a downright mighty response to the
Touch HD. The previously-seen
T8920 has turned out to be the MAX 4G, an 800 x 480 monster with 8GB of Flash on board, two cameras, an FM radio, GPS, WiFi, triband EDGE, and -- most importantly -- WiMAX support, making it the first GSM / WiMAX handset anywhere in the world. It'll be launching on Scartel's Yota network in Russia, and if you have friends cool enough to have a MAX 4G of their own, calls between the two of y'all will automatically be routed over the WiMAX airwaves using VoIP. A launch date hasn't been announced, but unless you're in Russia, there's probably not much point in even bothering to lust after this one. If you insist, though, you can check out a couple additional shots of the phone over at
Engadget Mobile.
posted Nov 12th 2008 12:57PM
I want. NOW
so pretty...
i want also
"unless you're in Russia, there's probably not much point in even bothering to lust after this one."
Chris, you know better than this :) You're such a tease. I never thought i'd say this, but i would switch to sprint for this. (pending non-removal of aforementioned awesome features.)
I, too, want NOW.
In Russia phone calls you! ...wait... that's not that funny... i'll try again after a few hours of sleep.
OK, I want one!
Will I get ranked all the way up now?
for what ... i wouldn't have it for free
htc has the worst touch screen sensitivity
even if u lock it , it will , it will answer any call by itself
and there is no hard cases to protect you from a scandalous call
i am not an Apple iphone fanatic, but
the iphone has best touch screen ever
i already have the htc diamond, i bought it for usd$990 in june 08, i thought high about it
now i want to sell for 200 and if not possible i will give it away for free
Give it to me then.
Quote me on this a couple of years from now - or sooner if Apple and/or Fon and/or Google and/or some other unheard of as yet startup really get behind the concept, P2P communication (with no base stations at all eventually) will be the future. And it will bring about something that humanity deserves, FREE unlimited communications. You buy your device and only pay for the energy it consumes. And even that could be free once solar re-charging stations are placed across the planet. A few new technologies are listed at lifemachine.com.
Good luck with that.
...a few new solar energy technologies that is. Power can also be obtained from other sustainable sources appropriate to the local environment, energy generating clothing and more. As long as we don't mess up, this is a great time to be alive is it not? All the pieces are falling into place...
All we need are more of those companies that are created to spend money to help people instead of being created to make a profit.
@ Mile
...and these companies that "spend money to help people" would get there money from...?
Sustainable planet.... check
Sustainable p2p.... check
Sustainable cell bills.... check
Sustainable business model..................................
i have Sprint. so sad.
Gah! What about verizon!? They still don't even have the touch pro out yet!
Sprint + CMDA HTC Max + Android = My Wildest Dreams Coming True.
On 2nd thought, apparently my dreams aren't all that wild. I should work on that.
I KNOW!!!! they don't have it on verizon1!!! it gets on my nervz & jusst my luck too; they wouldn't have the phone i want.. GGRR!!!
Still want a Touch HD... HTC ! Bring it here !
*waits*
man, if iPhones had CDMA this thing wouldn't stand a chance.
FAP!
oh my....
don't tell me that ur mike chan
no sir. Just yet another Mike C.
And here I am on my brand new - non-wimax Fuze! *mad*
Living in Baltimore and enjoying the low-latency and relatively high speed speeds of WiMAX, I would love it if more phone manufacturers started integrating WiMAX into their phones or at least offering it as an option.
Watching (or listening) to streaming media while in a bus going at 60 mph never gets old.
question for you, Mr. Waffle: which device are you currently using to watch streaming video via WiMAX
It's a Lenovo with an integrated WiMAX radio.
Don't be sad. By the time the U.S. has WiMAX coverage worth buying a device for, all of our 2-year contracts will be up!
unless you live in Baltimore, apparently.
What's the latest on Sprint's "nationwide" WiMAX effort?
By the time they ship to the US, and the dinosaur networks here will support them, Europe/Asia/Russia (read : rest of world) will be on to 5G.
Wow so awesome..
BTW on the pics.. is it just me or does that look like something different than TouchFlo 3D?
It doesn't look like anything. The phone isn't on in the pictures.
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/photos/htc-max-4g-officially-announced-worlds-first-gsm-wimax-phone/1154087/
You sure about that?
man, htc has such sexy phones! and the dream is what google went with! pitiful!
haha, when I first saw that I thought is was going to be the replacement to the samsung P2.. *hmmmm, maybe I should look at title first and THEN the picture... * :D
Could it be, that I actually want a WinMo phone at long last? Little on the chunky side, but.....I like em chunky ;)
OMD!!!!!!!!! n WTF!!!! first i wanted htc touch diamond, then i wanted htc touch hd and now this for f**k's sake y????
I have the HTC diamond and it has horrible battery life. I'm not sure if SPrint or HTC is to blame although if you call either they say you need to talk to the other company -
Sprint: "You need to call HTC, we don't manufacture phones"
HTC: "You need to call your carrier. We design the phone but Sprint modifies the ROM to fit their network"
Issues with the Sprint HTC Diamond
Bluetooth stack - very weak - causes tremendous battery drain and static.
Radio - very poorly implmented - signal varies from moment to moment even in stationary locations - causes battery issues.
Wireless network access - poorly implemented - after you have a push e-mail or any other internet access even after the transfer is complete, the internet connection stays open for 10 more minutes - causes battery drain.
Tilt sensor - poorly implemented - always engaged - sensing your changes in vector as you move - problem if you keep your phone in your pocket while you walk - causes battery drain.
If you have exchange push and bluetooth enabled - you will be lucky to get a half a day's battery use even if you barely use the phone for calling.
Bad screen sensor - hard to select items on edge of screen.
You could probably get a higher capacity battery for the touch pro. http://www.alltouchdiamond.com/general-touch-diamond-discussion/1800mah-high-capacity-battery/msg1586/
There's alternatives to the 1340mA are 900mA and1800mA. Though I don't know if the 1800mA is supported and in some instances affects the radio on the CDMA versions but not the GSM versions.
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/photos/htc-max-4g-officially-announced-worlds-first-gsm-wimax-phone/1154088/
That is one fantastic looking phone.
Why oooh why must Engadget tease us Americans with such beautiful full screen devices...I REFUSE to switch to AT&T for an iphone. I actually like WinMo and my sprint coverage is excellent and half the price of what i would pay with an iphone. But HTC is really pissing me off releasing half assed phones to the US then giving the rest of the world these great phones with huge screens. Granted (half assed) isnt realy fair since im considering upgrading my mogul for a Diamond.
What have i done to you HTC/Sprint why must you tease me. I pay my bills i tell everyone how much i like the devices and service. Just give us a phone thats worthy of the high prices were willing to pay.
Im done ranting.
Why would you want a touchscreen? Its an imperfect interface for a mobile device.
Aren't the American GSM based companies and Verizon going with LTE for 4G?
Yes, but Sprint is going to be using (already is in Baltimore) WiMAX. So, if they just swapped the GSM radio out with a CDMA it would be good to go.
It may be a case of the camera angle but this thing looks like it could snap in my pocket if I stood up too quickly!
Considering this phone is almost an inch thick, I don't think you'll have to worry about it snapping... unless I misunderstood your statement.
Two cameras...Why?
In addition to the high quality one that's on the back there's also low quality one that's front facing. It takes up very little space and only adds 30 cents to the build cost so why not .. given that it lets you look at the other person while on a video call with them.
This phone is meant to be full featured so if you want less features you can get a cheaper phone.
@unique
Have you ever heard of video calling? That is what the camera is for on practically every mid range up phone is for. I get 100mins/month of free video calls on my contract, which would be handy if it was actually that useful.
Its called the mullet effect.
Business in the front, party in the rear.
whos idea at htc is it that decides to give us a camera with no flash light?
That's what I'm trying to figure out. Not even the Touch HD's camera had any kinda of flash. It's starting to become detrimental to their products, imho.
My Pro has a flash. I just got it yesterday so I'm still figuring some stuff out, but as of now when I turn it on it stays on the whole time, acting as a flashlight (quite bright too), and when I take a picture it'll turn off and flash for the photo. I didn't know the Diamond didn't have a flash.
http://www.yota.ru/ru/htc_max_4g/main/
Simple, monolithic, lovely!
Who needs to cameras? video calls? heck I don't even want to see my friends on a weekly basis much less every idiot who has my phone number... My Real phone number.. ahh prepaid what would I do without you...
Forgive me, but why exactly would I ever need two cameras? Front and back for vid calls? Because video calling when we're driving is obviously safe.
So that you can see the other person in a video call? Otherwise its useless if, you, know, can't see each other. It does actually work quite well, although expensive if I use up the free minutes of it.
The question is why would you talk on your phone while driving in a manner you could record yourself... With BT etc, you have the phone in your pocket or briefcase these days.
Secondly, one for video calling as mentioned before and one for taking photos of where you have been so you can GeoCache...
Mum always told me, "If they haven't got anything nice to say... Correct them"
28900 Rubles? DAMN! That's over a $1,000 bucks!
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.yota.ru/ru/htc_max_4g/spec/&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=ru&tl=en
The specs page translated into English for anyone who wants it.
One thing I don't like is that WIMAX kills the battery.
I support Dan Hesse selling his body to literally anyone at HTC to get this phone with a CDMA radio.
And to cover the cost of me buying one.
I don't think he's worth enough :(
I 2nd that.. The next Sprint commercial i see better be in B/W with Dan in bed with a FEMALE high ranking HTC Exec smoking a cig telling us the lucky sprint customer have nothing 2 worry about. Were getting the hotness from HTC for a couple years.lol
YEAH I CAN DREAM.
Or a MALE high ranking exec, I personally think that would be a far funnier commercial.
Tri-band GSM and no HSPA? There isn't enough 3G in the world yet to make that a reasonable design, IMO.
Give it:
1) Quadband GSM
2) UMTS/HSPA for at least AT&T, but it'd be nice to see T-Mo-USA too. (in addition to WiMAX, not instead of it)
3) Side-slide qwerty
4) Android
And I'd be all over that device.
Would it be possible to import this and use a gsm provider (T-mo AT&T) for voice and sign up separately for Sprints xohm and use that for data? Seems like it would be a good deal even at $45 a month, being as though most companies charge an additional $30 a month for just tethering.
Ahhh, nice looking phone, and nice specs, but no slider keyboard, no love.
This is truly fucking amazing... I want this NOW!
I can't wait to run WinMo 7 on this beauty!
Go ahead HTC, release that expensive phone to a country that just had to close its stock market for the 3rd time in a row. No, no, no, that makes perfect sense here. There's no market for high-quality touch-screen phones... the news you've heard about Iphone outselling you is just a lie.
Russia has more billionaires than any other country in the world. Moscow is the most expensive city in the world (I think a cup of coffee averages around $10 in business districts). Those that are truly rich are not gonna pout over only having 2 billion instead of 4.
makes me think i should invest in 'htc' stock
Here's a link to expansys they're selling an HTC original 1800mA battery with cover http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=172018
Also there's a 2400mA battery for it but there are many factors to it: origin of mfr, battery quality and safety.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2400mA-Extend-Battery-to-HTC-Touch-Diamond-Pro-TyTN-III_W0QQitemZ370111287227QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Computers_PDA_Accessories?hash=item370111287227&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Oh, wait!! So, if SARAH PALIN has one of these, does that mean she can...
ah, nevermind. you see where this is going.
I guess its wimax chip is 2.5GHz so will it work slow on 3.5GHz-Wimax or it will not work at all !?!
We have camera phone but not for video calling this is first one it think used for video calling and used with wifi network
http://www.zahipedia.com/2008/11/21/htc-max-4g-worlds-first-wi-max-gsm-phone/
UUUUGGHHH!!! man i want this phon3!!! why can't verizon have it!!! GGGGRRRR~!!!!
Sweet I want one, I live in Canada and i use Rogers GSM based and it has full 3G just swap the sim card in and good to go. I expect Rogers to also be going for WiMAX. And we have video calling as well. And its sweet that is has on board flash memory(for camera pics), Then just pop a 32GB microSD card for music and bam your good to go. Finally an all in one personal multimedia/communincation device. Too bad data plans in Canada are ludicrous. I think sprint has the best plan ever $99 for every everything nice and simple.