Windows Mobile 6.5 walkthrough with Engadget (now with video!)
By Chris Ziegler 
posted Feb 16th 2009 11:53AM
posted Feb 16th 2009 11:53AM
- The new locking screen is very cool. Not the jazziest looking we've ever seen, but the added functionality of being able to go straight to specific screens of the phone -- screens you're particularly interested in when coming out of standby -- is great. Someone should've thought of this long ago.
- The home screen is a love-it-or-hate-it affair -- the gesture used to navigate it might be a bit difficult to get used to. There's a focused bar for each piece of information on the screen; it needs to be dragged from item to item to highlight, which is where we could see ourselves getting a little hung up. The left / right gestures to move through pieces of information in a single category (tasks or calendar items throughout the day, for example) makes a boatload of information accessible from the home screen, but it might be too much -- if you're busy, seeing your whole calendar this way could take a few minutes and leave you with a sore thumb. Also, the left / right thing makes less sense for some of the items -- bookmarks, for example. Who's going to thumb through their bookmarks one at a time?
- Windows Media Player is a total unchanged carry-over from 6.1 -- a major disappointment for anyone hoping that the Zune influence on the 6.5's home screen would be pervasive throughout the platform. Actually, a major disappointment, period.
- 6.5 is resistive only. It doesn't support capacitive touchscreens.
- The on-screen keyboard looks cool, but you'll see some struggles typing engadget.com in the video -- possibly related to the resistive nature of the screen. Bottom line, 6.5 isn't 100 percent finger-friendly. (Besides, it turns out that the keyboard is HTC's, not Microsoft's; as far as we know, the stock board is unchanged from 6.1).
- Scrolling is generally choppy, especially in the honeycomb menus. We're hoping this resolves itself prior to launch -- the software's still in alpha, after all -- but we're not holding our breath. The "springboard" action when scrolling is new to WinMo and works well, but what's the point when you're struggling with speed?
- IE Mobile seems to render beautifully in the sites we've seen, but the zoom slider seems difficult to actuate with a finger -- possibly just because it's slow to respond. We think part of the perception that the zooming functionality is low-performance stems from the fact that it's stepped, not smooth. Hard to say if 6.5 has the raw horsepower to do smooth scrolling, though (and to be fair, Android and the iPhone "cheat" by filling in areas with a checkerboard pattern to speed things up, so no one's really nailed this).
- The finger-friendly menus seem unintuitive even to our demonstrator, mainly because they don't support swipe-based scrolling. Instead, the user taps arrows at the top and bottom of the context menu to navigate.
Wow, it's like 35% web screen and the rest is inputscreen. Good job!
You can always minimize the keyboard when you're done typing, you know, unless you want to be an idiot
A very intelligent comment, impostor! Would you like a cookie?
Typical iDiot.
The keyboard only comes up when you are typing, it auto-hides when you are not.
Shouldn't you be in school.
Oh, damn, forgot, today is President's Day.
Translation: we are stuck with the iPhone teeny-boppers today -- an Engadget Day Care if you will.
I still have school :(
Paul Chapel must be douching. He hasn't queefed here yet.
i kinda like more the meizu version of lock screen than WinMob 6.5,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDQ-coSHPCQ
btw Microsoft should already being on WinCE 6 platform, which is also the foundation of Meizu's MMobile OS. WinCE 5.x on WinMob 6, 6.1 and 6.5 is an ancient platform already. what a shame, Meizu is lightyears ahead from WinMob team.
while this WinMob 6.5 looks like really finger friendly (with finger gestures etc.), it is too much relying on finger gestures itself. heavily. take example on the Home Screen. The focused bar. it's a hassle to drag here and there only to scroll through the home menus. although it's eye candy, it doesnt made much sense in terms of usability.
but yeah, microsoft still got more time to polish their OS. they r releasing this in Q4 rite? correct me if i'm wrong.
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btw, this year will be a great year for mobile OSes. it should be great for everyone.
"OH LOLZ A POST ABOUT A MICROSOFT PRODUCT! TIME TO MENTION MY IPHONE!"
this is why we think you're a douchebag.
So far browser blows in comparison to iphone. windows media player lol!!! this is not replacing my widescreen video ipod on my 16gb iphone 3g anytime in the near future.,what a fail.........such overhyped fail.Im sure we all agree..,?
What a piece of crap. UI sucks, the X still there and its even bigger now. Still living in the past with menus, drop downs, X to close a window. No creativity at all. They replaced the front end to be more touch friendly but most of the application still the same and made to be used with s stylus and still carrying the X, OK and Cancel buttons and the whole desktop experience. They just forgot that the mobile is the future industry and future don't live in the past.
That X is there because of multi-tasking, and the ability to see open apps, switch between them, and close them if we so choose.
Something you iDiots wouldn't have the slightest clue about, you know, multi-tasking -- the thing of myths and legends an iPhone land.
It doesn't need to be an X to close, you can throw it away, shake your phone, do a gesture thing, something more creative and new, you don't need to have an X to close or choose save in programs for the system to know that when you close you want the information saved. You don't need to use an OK/Cancel button for the system knows what you want to do. This is all based on Windows desktop experience and mobile is the future, they better get their shit together and re-invent something new because as I said the future doesn't live from the past and all the Windows desktop experience is thing of the past.
Palm just came up with their new system and I can relate on their innovation and creativity in there. You can clearly see how they managed to get multi-task working without having to use the stupid X.
Microsoft can do much better.
Francisco Viana, you talk like if Microsoft builds the hardware! Stop pooping out of your mouth.
And what is wrong with the X ?
I click on it, I can see all of my running apps, I can easily switch between them, it's convenient, its non-obtrusive, it's simple, it's intuitive, and it's something we are all already familiar with.
I don't want to shake my phone like an ass anytime I want to close an app or switch something, what next, twitch my nose a la Bewitched to open an app?
Really, you are trying to suggestion a solution for a non-existent problem just for the sake of being different.
What's really trite and banal are responses such as yours, not this tried and true method.
Why does everyone feel the need to reinvent the wheel. The X works fine. It has always worked and there's no reason to change it. A gesture motion to close the window? How about this gesture move finger to the upper right and press. There's your gesture.
great argument yours, is that really the best you can say?
@ Francisco Viana
You fail at debate.
Does something need to be reinvented? The "X" is universally understood and is super easy to use. Shaking may be more cool but it is hardly more practical or desired.
Again, I would rather have substance over form in a business based mobile device.
Shake was just a way to say that it can be different. The X is from the desktop experience and yes, there is a need to reinvent, to make it better. This is how we evolute, we reinvent better things.
I agree, the X works fine. In the past when the hardware couldn't keep up with the software it may have been necessary to close some programs, but now it is better to have the programs lying dormant in the background so they can reload "instantaneously", and you don't hit that ceiling with the RAM limitations.
And you can close the program if you really want to with a tap-hold or by calling up the taask manager. I still don't understand why you would need to.
There may be several problems with Windows Mobile, but this is not one of them.
Hamidxa is right. There's no point implementing change for the sake of change. The X button is much more straight forward, obvious and intuitive than the gestures you suggested. Those are just a gimmick that would get old really quickly. They would also require a lot more movement when all you want to do is close a window. Remember, KISS and if it aint broke don't fix it.
Having said that, I sincerely hope that the X does actually close the windows and not just hide the applications like previous versions of WinMo. Apologies if this is already the case in 6.1.
@Francisco Viana - please give it up! You really are sounding like you dont know what you are talking about but rather than just leave it you persist.
So what if it came from the desktop - what is so wrong with that? As has been said already, it is quick and intuitive - everyone recognises it for what it is. I dont see a problem nore does thousands of others.
Stop trying to find flaw where there isn't one. If you want something to hang on to then pick at menus, settings window and file explorer but please stop going on about the "X"
My Winmo phone doesn't have an accelerometer. Shaking it does nothing for me... which is good since my hand shakes sometimes. As long as they make the X finger sized, I have no complaints.
I wish I could evolute!
I guess I'm really not seeing something great here with WinMo 6.5. I currently have the HTC Touch and HTC Touch Diamond on Sprint. Both are running WinMo 6.1. On my HTC Touch I'm running the Winterface app by Vito Technologies along with their FunContact and texting app. That seems to be a whole lot smoother that what I'm seeing from WinMo 6.5. I don't use IE much as there are three other browsers I usually prefer based on the website I'm visiting. The browsers are Opera Mobile (not Opera Mini), the Iris browser by Torch Mobile, and the Skyfire browser. I also think it's interesting how they say WinMo 6.5 will not be made available to current phones. Since it appears to be no more than just another skin why wouldn't they? Seems like they're doing everything but actually giving us a ride down to the competition's storefront to move us away from WinMo. As a WinMo user who dates back to WindowsCE through version 1.92 and then on to the PocketPC on well over a dozen different devices I say shame on you Microsoft. Get your head out of your a$$ and start developing something that we can not only believe in and rely on but that we can actually brag about. Right now the only thing I'm left to brag about is the fact that my WinMo devices can run some great apps that iPhones currently can't like the SlingPlayer app. But when these third party app companies finally release their iPhone apps I'll have nothing.
Windows Mobile is now officially dead... this is crap...however, what's more disappointing is that Android is not on this phone
everyone seems to be forgetting that this is 6.5, not 7.
It is not a huge overall, WinMo7 is what I am looking forward to. This is just a stepping stone and a test bed to see what works and what people like. If WinMo7 is a disappointment and lacks creativity, then I can understand being upset.
Francisco says:
"Shake was just a way to say that it can be different. The X is from the desktop experience and yes, there is a need to reinvent, to make it better. This is how we evolute, we reinvent better things."
Evolute?
Ummmm...come again?
Dictionary: evolute (ĕv'ə-lūt', ē'və-)
n. Mathematics.
The locus of the centers of curvature of a given curve.the locus of the center of curvature or the envelope of the normals of a curve
The word you are looking for is evolve.
Not that I would expect a typical iPhone user to be able to distinguish between the two.
@dwboston u want ur mobile to read ur mind for ur decision on Close / Ok / Cancel
@Francisco
Something different? You mean like the task switcher on the Omnia?
Fucktard.
@ Hamidxa
Forgive the boy, this is obviously not his fault as the T9 on his beloved iPhone cannot be turned off, so he's stuck with grammar mistakes here and there.
Engadget photos galleries give me ADD with a touch of Tourette's. Could I please have this in decent quality video?
I second that ... can we atleast have a Lightbox gallery or something?
Cheers (hope it's good quality).
'a burning desire in our hearts and our loins'?
how would you like your loins done?
The youtube video of this pathetically designed UI confirms MS inability to innovate. In their attempt to "pretend" that they do not copy Apple, the resulting product clearly shows the extent of their failure.
If by fail you mean it looks slick and totally functional...all the while supporting dozens of features that the iPhone lacks, then whatever floats your boat.
As NYT eloquently states: "The overall effect is pleasant, but it appeared derivative, with nothing that I noticed that pushed the art of cellphone interfaces forward."
Notice the word "derivative"? That just about sums up Microsoft current offerings. ahahaha
Yes, a derivative of their and their partners current offerings (see TF3D, TF2D, SPB Shell, TouchWiz, etc.)
Not a derivative of Apple's.
Agree and Apple is not just the only example. Take a look at the new Symbian S60 from N97 or look at the new system from Palm Pre. This is innovation, what MS is doing is just saving the resources built from the Windows desktop and trying to bring the same appeal to a mobile phone which doesn't work.
Almost valid. However, it makes sense to try and make the phone's interface as similar as reasonably plausible as a desktop interface. This is where the term "familiarity" is useful.
I love the sweeping meta-reality comments that iUsers make. This particular comment makes no sense because you dont back it up with any proof. Same stupid drivel coming from inarticulate morons that like company like Apple to do the thinking for them. Nice lemming, good lemming...now go jump off a cliff.
Looks nice.
A wonderful evolutionary upgrade to the current Winmo OS. And don't forget, probably this time next year they will be showing off at least an Alpha version of 7.
This should be enough to hold people over until Microsoft can finish rebuilding Windows Mobile from the ground up.
It does look "nice". But that's probably it. That's where the comparison with the OSX on the iPhone starts to end. Microsoft can't create a usable experience on their first iteration of the software which is very important. First impressions are very important, and Winmo fails to deliver.
iKurt - you can keep your pretty phone with limited abilities. I'd prefer a phone that actually does what I want it to do. Different consumers for different products.
The big question is why would anyone want to wait around for Microsoft to get their act together? Manufacturers may have no choice, but between Google, Apple, and RIM, consumers sure as hell do.
The bottom line is that there isn't anything in that video that would impress anyone who's ever seen an iPhone. WinMo can't leverage a monopoly the way big Windows can, so there's really no reason why any consumer should be impressed by this rather poor me-too effort.
"This should be enough to hold people over until Microsoft can finish rebuilding Windows Mobile from the ground up." - CJ
Uh huh. I vote "highly unlikely." And "wonderful" upgrade? Really? How about "joyous?" "Rapturous?" Microsoft demands more slobbery superlatives from its minions. You people sure can spin a mediocre update into the Second Coming. Yet you say Apple people are sheep. Sheesh.
"Please, people, just bear with us while we try to come up with something not completely crapped up!" - Microsoft
Lead or get out of the way, Microsoft (in other words: get out of the way).
Still looks like you need to whip out a stylus to do a lot of the basic functions....Oh how much longer till Windows Mobile 7 ! ! all our phones in the UK are now on 18 month contracts min and we are ready to renew....do I really want 6.1 for another 18 months. I have literally had nightmares about that phone OS! !
Why the devil would you wait for Microsoft to deliver technology that's been available on other platforms for years? WinMo has no monopoly, it's dated, and it's losing momentum. If it's time to renew there are *plenty* of other options out there.
@Darrren, WinMo does plenty of things that other phones are incapable of doing and it does them very well. Proper Exchange integration, an unrestricted development platform that leads to things like proper GPS navigation software, enterprise integration, customisability and hardware choice. It's UI may be a bit tired here and there and MS could do more to enforce minimum hardware requirements but it's generally the most powerful phone OS on the market today.
6.5 looks like it's more than enough to keep people going until 7 comes out and I'll definitely be considering it mid-year when I know what phones it will be available on.
"Why the devil would you wait for Microsoft to deliver technology that's been available on other platforms for years? "
You mean like copy and paste?
But I'm sure you will tell us that was never an important feature to begin with.
WinMo isn't the only platform to offer cut-and-paste, or open development, and they don't even offer the best Exchange integration. There's no reason to stick with WinMo, and if these these sad, new demo videos are any indication, people who wait around for Microsoft are going to get burnt.
The more I see WM 6.5, the more I like it.
Also, the Diamond 2 is one sweet looking phone.
SPB Mobile Shell 3 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWzppakWPLI
Take that iPhone bitches!
Damn that is slick.
That destroys the iPhone's UI by a mile.
MS should acquire SPBsoftwarehouse and be done with it. They are wasting their time with 6.5 IMO
Another vid : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2AOukFSz5o
3D HW accel to!
That is pretty nice. Very smooth and fast. Any idea on availability?
Microsoft doesnt have to aquire SPB. SPB will still be making their Mobile Shell 3.0 available for 6.5.
If you dont like the built in home screen for 6.5, buy SPB 3.0 and get a new one.
Or buy PointUI and get a new one.
Or buy Winterface and get a new one.
Or download the HTC TF3D cab from XDA and get a new one.
Get my point?
Now you see why the hell should it take a 3rd party app to make the MS OS usable and innovative and fun? Why couldn't MS make version 6.5 like that, or at least that smooth and fast? SPB are in for some serious cash me thinks, well done to them.
6.5 might not be usable for you (remember, dont pass complete judgement until its actually released), but for others it will work just fine.
For those that find it unusable (i.e. You), just go get another one.
6.5, assuming the final is faster, which i expect it will be, is perfectly fine for navigation. Should someone want something different, Microsoft keeps that option available.
Even when 6.5 is released, TF3D will most likely exist on HTC phones, just like TouchWiz will exist on 6.5 samsung phones.
Its called choice, and its something MS still keeps. That, and they cant kill off software partners like SPB. SPB still has to do their stuff.
Personally I think it looks lovely. It seems to bring eveything together rather than in 6.1 where everything felt a bit tacked on and spread out all over the place.
I wish HTC would lose their obsession with putting Qualcomms rubbishy chipsets in their phones though, I think it's these which are giving the OS such a bad performance reputation.
The screen of Touch Diamond 2 looks nice!
Please don't confuse the nice design and hardware from HTC with Windows Mobile 6.5. Two separate things. The hardware is great but the system sucks. When you leave the 5 or 7 applications built with this interface and install all the already built application you will have to go back to the stylus.
Francisco, one idiotic comment after another after another, ad-nauseam.
Case in point, I have about 50 different apps installed on my Touch Pro.
The number of apps I have had to use the stylus to operate?
Honestly, maybe a half-dozen at most which really require a stylus to get the most out of, but that would only be to get some super-sensitive function out of it, such as in Excel if I want to add a function to a cell, or in a video game such as Virtual Pool Mobile to line up the cue and take a shot.
Out of curiosity, I would absolutely LOVE to see you fumble around like a fool trying to get Excel to work on your iPhone, or I would love to see you play Virtual Pool Mobile on your iPhone without a stylus.
That ought to get you to shut up and be a bit more pragmatic in your viewpoints.
Who said that I use iPhone? I bought it and gave up on it on the first month. I am a Blackberry user and mainly because only now we are seen powerful mobile email systems that can compete with the blackberry. On Windows mobile outlook you need to leave the application to do a search for a email with specific subject or information on the body message. I made strong critics about the iPhone myself. I think its a great phone for my mom or any user that just needs the basic. iPhone is by far not the ideal phone for advanced users as it misses way too many basic things like copy and paste, email search and a real keyboard.
@Hamidxa
of course it's fun to bash ~the phone that shall not be named~, take example of "The Simpsons" Mapple Store episode.
but in the end, people still buy ~the phone that shall not be named~. no one can deny that.
so please Hamidxa, no trolling here. btw Francisco didnt even mentioned bout ~the phone that shall not be named~, but u went straight telling everyone that he is idiotic. and by the rules of engadget today, any post that's insulting Microsoft camp will be lowranked. so much for speaking his own thought eh? looks like engadget is now filled with microsoft fanboys or myb mechanical turks.
oh btw, i'm not a user of ~the phone that shall not be named~. i'm an avid Sony Ericsson user.
so please again Hamidxa, no trolls, no bias anymore. those are easily seen by clicking on your profile. or at least if u r a genuine troll, u can always make it private.
regards.
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"6.5 is resistive only. It doesn't support capacitive touchscreens."
I stopped reading here.
watch engadget u have a competitor site www.enfadget.com X~D
I stopped watching when I saw the super choppy, super slow honeycomb scrolling animation.
Seriously, I'm no longer interested in this garbage. HTC did a better job with TouchFLO 3D on 6.1
Thats why its not being released today.
Its still in alpha.
i kinda like more the meizu version of lock screen than WinMob 6.5,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDQ-coSHPCQ
btw Microsoft should already being on WinCE 6 platform, which is also the foundation of Meizu's MMobile OS. WinCE 5.x on WinMob 6, 6.1 and 6.5 is an ancient platform already. what a shame, Meizu is lightyears ahead from WinMob team.
while this WinMob 6.5 looks like really finger friendly (with finger gestures etc.), it is too much relying on finger gestures itself. heavily. take example on the Home Screen. The focused bar. it's a hassle to drag here and there only to scroll through the home menus. although it's eye candy, it doesnt made much sense in terms of usability.
but yeah, microsoft still got more time to polish their OS. they r releasing this in Q4 rite? correct me if i'm wrong.
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Holy crap. It is so unresponsive and sluggish. This is suppose to compete with iPhone's OSX? Shame on you Micro$oft.
They are not done yet. Are you people daft?
I bet copy and paste works better on WinMo 6.5 than it does on the iPhone. I also bet bluetooth, video recording, multitasking, multiple codec support, turn-by-turn navigation...oh, you get my point.
Some people really cant be objective and I s'pose it up to the individual - but when it makes you look like a sheep who is spouting crap read else where they you look stupid.
There is more to a 'Smartphone' than just a UI (UI is subjective). If you dont what to objectively give it a chance to come out then please save your comments.
Never used the iphone extensively so I wont make remarks but not having multitasking is strange thing for 'OSX' not to handle :-s piff
Seems like a good bridge between WM 6.1 and WM 7. It's not without issues but I'm sure the scrolling will be smoother in the final production version.
The home screen gestures seem like touch-friendlier versions of the sliding panels in WM 6.1 Standard (which didn't make it into WM 6.1 Professional for some reason). I'm not sure why people get so hung up on gestures. Most gesture functions could be accomplished with a finger press or (gasp!) a d-pad. Is it just to be different and cool?
Will SPB Mobile Shell 3.0 be available for WM 6.1?
It's disappointing to see that they haven't changed the whole UI compeltely....there's still the old boring Windows95 menus inside, they should rebuild WinMo from the ground up or is that gna be in WinMo7???
Win Mobile7
I don't know what some people are bitching about, as the article says for a .4 upgrade this is pretty awesome stuff. I have an iPhone (2G) right now, but I'm feeling a bit envious right now. The Touch Pro 2 is VERY nice.
wow what a bunch of f***in windows fanboys on here. I have a PC, but seriously! This is nothing special. Technology like this existed 5 years ago. Lets see something new Microsoft...
Interestingly, this is a Windows Phone post, so you would expect there to be some Windows fanboys here, and the significantly larger number of people who use Windows Phones to have some kind of vested interest. With 6.5, some things are good, some things are okay, and some things are still not great, but that is entirely to be expected.
For some reason though, these posts also seem to attract the more virulent type of iFanboy whose sole purpose appears to be to criticize anything non-Apple related. Sadly these also tend to be unjustified or plain ignorant (i.e. trolling), and some form of correction seems to be in order. Reading through the posts, though, the "Windows Fanboyism" is actually quite restrained in comparison, and indeed some of the replies are actually quite erudite and informative.
For me, most of 6.5's changes are cosmetic and the functionality has already been met by 3rd party software. Say what you like, Windows Mobile is still extremely versatile and configureable, and for me it is more about what you can do with your phone than what it looks like.
This new OS doesn't seem intuitive at all. It is also hideous! Microsoft has a lot of catching up to do when compared to WebOS, Apple, and Android.
When you say new OS do you mean a 0.4 upgrade to version 6 of WM. This should really be seen as stop gap so that Microsoft is not seen to be falling way behind everyone else. I am sure they are frantically trying to overhaul WM for version 7 (major upgrade hence the new integer).
Dont lose your heads over this which ever way you see it (great or sh!t). This is just a marketing stop gap. Lets wait for version 7.
but yeah, Android, OSX Mobile, and WebOS are too much for Microsoft to start catching up with the game.
plus, WinMob is no longer leading the market anymore, so Microsoft have to work harder to regain the market share.
but in the end, they come up with this WinMob 6.5, of which is also not yet released (Q4 rite?)
this year is totally a surprise for mobile OS. especially the WebOS on Palm Pre.
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"WinMob is no longer leading the market anymore"
More WinMobile phones were sold than iPhones.
So at least they are more liked than that "dying" platform, using your "logic", right?
did i even mention bout 'that' phone?
i'm just saying that other platforms are more promising. but WinMob 6.x is a really dying platform. heck even Meizu use WinCE 6 as the foundation of their MMobile OS used on their M8, of which is also the sucessor of WinCE 5.x found on WinMob 6.x. Even Meizu dont want to use WinCE 5.x!
and even worse, this WinMob 6.5 wont come anytime soon. when it enters the market, it is highly probable that it will be too late, in the advent of Google's Android and Palm's WebOS. plus, their approach on the OS is lightyears ahead than WinMob 6.5. u can't simply deny that.
see, i havent even mention bout 'that' phone right? please, get a life.
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so basically windows mobile is still garbage
Look who's talking.
So Palm treats us to a the amazing WebOS which I plan to buy, then we have the non multi tasking iPhone, and we have the Symbian Foundation OS on the Sony Ericsson Idou.
All fantastic fast easy to use OS's, and Microsoft gives this crap out! How slow and unresponsive does it need to be? They need to get version 7 out the door and quick! They have made it look nice and pretty but left the usual MS clunckiness in it all.
Not good MS, you can do MUCH better I'm sure.
6.5 has always been billed as a step between 6 and WinMobile7, which will be the complete revision.
Most of us already know this.
You are an idiot that wants to score troll points, so you write this nonsense and think you really made a point. Congrads!
Er yeah I already knew that dumbass! Pity that SPB can make the MS OS actually be worth buying and MS them selves can't. I'm no troll, just say it how it is, MS 0, SPB 1. And lets all be honest here, the Win Mo OS has underneath looked the same as the OS on my Compaq Ipaq from 6 years ago for ages. So don't try and tell me they haven't had years to make it look better and fresh.
Slag off Apple all you want, at least they had the balls to make something different and unique and understood "user experience" and NO I am NOT an iPhone fan so don't go and label me as one.
Mark,
There no use with arguing with them. It's as if they worked on this project and are pissed that ordinary people think it's a piece of crap. Maybe next time ask the end users what they would like to see instead of sitting in think tanks for hours on out just to come up with a polished piece of shit. In the end it's still a piece of shit.
Fernando, I hope you realise how stupid you look calling other people biased whilst at the same time referring to an alpha version of an OS that you've never actually used as a "piece of crap" and "piece of shit".
Grow up.
@Mark
"piece of crap" is language of 12-year-olds, so he is treated accordingly.
He is not intelligent enough to formulate adult language to give us a list of things that he does not like about 6.5. I doubt he cares, since he likely never even uses WM, he just wants to troll like the other ifankids on here today.
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wtf? Thank you, Engadget comment system.
Microsoft needs to learn that we dont need a home screen and a start menu. They are redundant ideas. STOP IT.
We? So you now speak for all of us?