iPhone 3.0 beta 2 released, push notifications are a go
By Nilay Patel 
posted Mar 31st 2009 5:34PM
posted Mar 31st 2009 5:34PM
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overrated. no?
Apple
Your mom's overrated!
...Dear lord, did I actually say that? I have officially become an internet troll.
no.
I'm sorry.. but
"which will hopefully make our tester iphone tolerable again -- we've been restarting beta 1 basically every day since we sacrificed it" = blah, no worries, it's a beta
"which will hopefully make our tester winmo phone tolerable again -- we've been restarting beta 1 basically every day since we sacrificed it" = OMG it sucks! Post an article about it!
Had to, sorry..
@Sentax
I don't get it. At all. The article is about the iPhone update, and it mentions the original beta being extremely buggy. I don't see any article about the buggy WinMo betas. It's like you're arguing against yourself.
They are indeed arguing against themselves - they cannot argue with Engadget because Engadget has never actually said the words they put in its mouth. They have decided that Engadget is biased towards Apple, but because they cannot find any evidence of this (obviously, because it does not exist, because they are not biased), they make things up.
And distort everything. This minor article included plain vanilla info, plus a jibe at Apple, yet they still manage to see it as somehow being pro-Apple. Amazing level of self-delusion, really.
how is the picture related to push notification/push email?
Still, somehow I got voted down. Go figure.
Cant wait, whats the release for this?>
Summer. You now know as much as everyone else.
Is it on the torrent sites yet???
Yes, I believe it is. But please do not try to install it. Seriously.
Unless you've paid your cash and registered with the Apple Developer Connection (a long process, can take several hours if your name/billing info isn't a precise match), it will brick your phone.
It calls the mothership to verify that your phone with your serial number is registered as a test unit on your account. And you can not downgrade (well you can but it's a pain in the neck and isn't straight forward).
So if you want it that badly, pay your $99 and do it right. Or wait until the final release.
@Russ Matthews
I agree. While it is possible to make it work (just don't sync while you have internet access), paying the $99 is the way to go, no doubt. If you can't afford that, then maybe you shouldn't be wasting your time downloading a new beta firmware version for your iPod/Phone!
Anyway, my iPod touch has the pointless store setting and voice memos app now... I feel so much better about this build. Oh, and you can pause w/BT headphones now, but still not use the next/back/play functions, and shake to shuffle just WILL NOT turn off! This is still better than the first build (except the shake to shuffle settings issue)
@Russ.
It's simple to downgrade.
All I did was restored to a jailbroken 2.2.1 and it went without a hitch.
If you then don't want it jailbroken just restore to original 2.2.1.
sweet!
"Apple's phone elves"
Don't you mean phony elves?
No, those belong to Mapple.
Hopefully this build will fix the issue, but for any other developers out there who've not figure this out, the BIGGEST secret to a stable 3.0 device is this:
Always restart the unit after syncing with iTunes.
If you do that, it's almost as stable as 2.x was.
Anybody has some slots available in their dev program?
My phone running beta 1 takes forever to syn to itunes. Like 20-30 minutes. Sometimes so long, i just cancel the sync and my itunes (which is synced, says there is no music). You think i will have problems when i install the beta 2???? Advice would be appreciated. Thanks!!!
probably june
Boooring!!!
LEAVE APPLE ALONE!!
Came here to say that? Your life must the thing that's 'boooring'.
You're lucky she even performs for you!
what is the new build number.
Build 7A259g
"sacrificed it to the hands-on gods"
what?!
Apple >= God^2
wow apple figured out copy/paste - yeah! let's shoot our guns in the air like mexican new years! wtf
@CancerJobs, good job on the copy/paste, shoulda been here a few weeks ago when it was announced. Day late, a dollar short. The story of your life, kid.
Well, from his name he's obviously an Apple hating troll. Nice name BTW. You do know that karma is a bitch, right?
cancerjobs? Really?
You created an account specifically to bash, hate and hate some more on a 110 billion dollar market valued company? Really?
C'mon man, you know you want a macbook!
cool. can't wait for push notification, AIM, skype, facebook (?).
Anyone have a RS Download link for 7A259G?
Yea I am looking for the same thing. Looks like all the torrent sites don't have it yet. They only have the 1st version.
can anybody comment on overall stability of this build over the former? i know the last one was pretty rocky and very much a "beta".
The exchange email bug that prevented you from syncing to your corporate email was fixed.
the music player stability seems to have been increased, but I'll need to do more testing of the other things also
ALL FIXED!!!....Yahoooey.
Snappier than EVEH EVEH !!
I must say, excited for these much needed improvements to the iphone.
Is this available to download anywhere on the torrent sites or rapid share yet? Im looking for the 1st gen ipod touch version.
As the headline "iPhone 3.0 beta 2 released, push notifications are a go" were read by the copy cats of the mobile industry pigs, a collective expression of disbelief on how quickly 3.0 is progressing showed on their faces. Their hopes for a delay was quickly squashed with that headline.
You can hear, smell (Ballmer) and see the fear from Palm, RIM and Microsoft (me too) with todays announcement.
lol nah why would they care when their phones allow applications to run in the background?
@Dyranios,
As these devices have allowed background tasks for a long time and yet iPhone is pulling more marketshare every quarter, your point is moot.
The fact that the iPhone does not allow 3rd parties to run background processes is not a technical weakness of the OS. Its a strategic platform decision that pays off to user experience by making iPhones seem to have much better batteries and be a viable mobile gaming machine. Bottom line is that next year the iPhone will have the biggest mobile gaming market in the world, and that's only possible because of this decision.
@Dyranios
The thing is, the iPhone is clearly quite capable of running applications in the background since it does so already and it is running a UNIX OS. However, just because it is capable of doing so, and its competitors do so, does not necessarily mean that this is a "good idea". Rather, this is something that has come to mobile devices simply because their desktop cousins do and it simply does not work well. Done well you'll never notice that you are quitting an application when you leave it and you don't have to muck about with bloody Task Managers (my personal pet hate from Windows Mobile). There are some scenarios (such as the Skype application) where background applications make sense but they are definitely in the minority.
As the old wisdom goes, just because everyone else jumped off a cliff does not mean that you have to.
No.. they won´t shiver a bit. Apple is a third way behind Nokia and RIM. So yes they increase their market share in 2008 by 6% though at their current pase it would take them atleast another 5 to 8 years not considering Nokia/RIM will try to hold Apple down. Further more especially for Nokia is the smartphone only a small market anyways, out of 1.4 billion mobiles they sold in 2008 a mere 61 million were smartphones.
Further more why would any producer especially for the business market worry for a mobile which needs 3 years to introduce copy/paste and still lacks most basic functions even dumbphones 10 years ago had. Also specifically for RIM their mobile is from the roots developed all around reliability and stability with a proper input, it´s something Apple can´t touch. No ICT department in their right mind will consider using iPhones since they lack control over it and can´t develop what their needs are.
That said, as a fun-phone its a nice thing and for sure it has shown the mobile market that there is more possible then they knew. I do hope though Apple develops faster what they lack and also will start listening to the users instead of calling it ´features´ to for example refuse to run multiple apps.
Stupid logic if I ever heard it.
So apple doesn't give you the option of running background apps so you say thank you??? They give the option of Apps sending you stupid pop ups even if you don't want them and you say thank you? this is better than backgrounding??
You say the Unix OS is capable of running this but apple choose not to implement it for 3rd party apps because of battery? How about giving me the option of running my phone how ever I want?? If I choose to run background apps and recharge my phone daily that should be my decision.
Didn't realise iphone users like their hands being held so much.
When your a fan of something the I guess you will always try and find a way to defend its limitations.
Whats the build number for ipod touch first generation?
Hopefully the skype app will be updated to take advantage of this. A messaging / voip app that has to be running all the time is a bit useless.
True. Even with push notifications, how will you be able to get a call in Skype? I imagine the system would push you a notification that someone wants to talk, you then hit the talk button and it opens up Skype, starting the call if it's still dialing. Doesn't seem ideal to me.
In fairness the Skype application won't work particularly well even with Push Notifications, particularly when compared with the normal phone application that will run in the background while you use other applications, such as Mail and Safari. Skype will have its uses but it certainly won't replace your normal phone with the implementation possible on the iPhone.
che. its whatever. just waiting for cupcake to save the day
What are the major upgraded features of cupcake?
I'm waiting for blackberry cobbler to save the day.
anyone got a link to this other than torrents? work blocks torrent sites. :(
My phone just bricked trying to upgrade... brilliant. And yes I am a registered developer. It failed to upgrade.
did you get it fixed yet??? im worried now.
mine failed as well -
Granted i was trying to "upgrade" rather than doing a full restore but after full restore, works fine.
Damnit!!
My greedy self downloaded and I am dev. but I can't downgrade to 2.2 anymore. I am stuck with 3.0 that is VERY buggy.
I am hoping this second release fixes all that.
I can put it back to 2.2 but I lose everything contacts photos etc........
so I am stuck! Anyone else BEWARE of upgrading to 3.0.
TONS OF BUGS and super slow.
Wish me luck!
Did you expect anything more from such an early beta firmware? I'm using it now and I'm actually surprised at how stable it is... after not restoring my settings.
By the way, you can go back down to 2.2.1, you just have to put your device in DFU mode beforehand.
This post seems out of place, as the blog is about an update that resolves most stability and speed issues. Did you time warp from 2 weeks ago?
I'd care if maybe it supported a better network....AT&T sux!
All your base belong to AT&T
The link didnt work. Have any other links? Im trying again on firefox now. btw, remember its first gen ipod touch that i have. Also make sure its the beta 2 that came out today and not the old beta! thanks.
right after the update your screen will change to a nice purple color... possibly indicating apples thought of giving you backround choices
With Steve absent from the helm, you probably don't have to worry about this stuff as much, but remember that you agreed to their NDA.
Anyone have a link to dl yet?
oh, and I AM a developer.. btw...
had to add that in.
some of you may allready know who I am...
:)
Thank God!
I hope it addresses some of the INCREDIBLE bugginess.... Especially the "Keyboard has a 8 second delay before typing" bug...
I don't doubt someone will respond to this post saying, "Thats not a bug, its a feature", so I'll save you the trouble ;)
8 seconds is a big exaggeration. I put 3.0 on my original iPhone (slower proc speed) and it can sometimes lag when you first start typing, but in the 1-2 second range. After about 5 seconds, it stops lagging completely.
Yeah, I was exaggerating a little, but sometimes it does lag for that long...
Please someone get a download link going! Theres 4 versions of this software so we need 4 different firmwares! I have ipod touch first gen so please post all the download links here! Thanks.
As was already mentioned, you have to register the device under a developer license (think Microsoft activation) or it will be a brick
You dont "have" to be a dev. Im not a dev and I have it working fine. You just have to disconnect from the internet when installing the firmware. It woks perfectly =)
I tried that, and it doesn't work for the iPhone. iPod touch might be different.
Sooo looking forward to the release, although why it's taken this long is anyones guess. Had iphone 2 weeks and its madness there is no copy paste! Just what were they thinking?! Makes an otherwise great phone a real pain in the ar$e to use sometimes. Also tabbed browsing another major omission which should have been around at 3g launch.
Tabbed browsing? the system they use now is as good and is less confusing.
@ashan I would just like to be able for instance to flick through engadget and whilst doing this be able to open up the articles in a separate window without losing the engadget main page. Then once have finished with comments etc in separate window, can close it and get straight back to home page. As it stands now links are often opened in the original window that i would rather keep open :(
There has always been tabbed browsing on the iPhone.
@ohfor----sake,
3.0 addresses this without adding tabs. You just hold your finger down on the link for a second and a menu pops up allowing you to open, open in new page or copy the link (or cancel).
I don't think its smart to have tabs and pages implemented in this type of interface at the same time. Good for big screen computers, too much clutter and confusion for a hand held.
I'm thinking of pages as windows, but yea if you think of them as tabs then mobile Safari has always had them.
Thats the one, hold link...open new window...read comments....close window! awesomo!
Links?
Wow your patience amazes me.
anyone fund the torrent link?
Thnx for the fake LINK JERK!
@oscar : this is not the place to ask for illegal downloads. "JERK"
dick.
For some reason it reads like a sarcastic joke to me.
@Baxter : that site is posting the description to the new firmware and SDK... you changes , etc....
oh, okay, sorry for getting anyones hopes up! Please post if you find some downloads!
does MMS work properly now?
No? I think that was addressed in the article. Not until the final release this summer. Probably some switch at AT&T that disallows iPhone accounts from MMSing.
@SaNcTus : mms working properly has nothing to do with the firmware...mms works with beta 1 ; the thing is you have to modify your ipcc file (the carrier settings file) so it allows mms....same thing with tethering..they both work (mostly, some countries have trouble getting them to work at the same time, but they work, regardless of the firmware)
even if you find a torrent, it wont work. you need to register your device with apple, and then they will refrain from bricking it, once the new stuff is installed.
i have beta2 running now on my iphone3g, & it's A LOT smoother, really nice. killed a lot of the typing lag, and scrolling problems. as far as i can tell, this is very decent beta upgrade.
at the consistency and stability i'm seeing now, we may not even need another beta upgrade before the actual launch.
finnaly a nice construtive comment that actually helps. Thanks.
got it installed now, and first thing I noticed is bluetooth stereo controls are working, or at least the play / pause. Rewind and Fast forward don't appear to be working. At least we know for sure it is going in now