You see, the name "xpPhone" is rather
disingenuous here. At first glance, you may assume that you're about to discover what's likely the planet's first cellular telephone to run a full-fledged version of Windows XP. Sadly, we've got to slot the device shown above squarely into the MID category -- GSM support be darned. Still, we can't help but applaud the engineering efforts; after all, this thing somehow packs an AMD CPU, 1GB of RAM, a 64GB SSD, 4.8-inch 800 x 480 touchpanel, WiFi, various cell radios, a 1.3 megapixel camera and a battery good for five solid hours of use into a device barely larger than the average, yawn-inducing
MID found in every last corner of
Computex. In fact, it's so impressive that we're beginning to question its authenticity as a real, working product. Much like the number of licks to the center of a Tootsie Pop, the world may never know.
posted June 5th 2009 3:04PM
1...2....3.....*CRUNCH*.
video here: http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/05/xpphone-is-a-giant-phone-that-runs-xp-or-a-small-computer-that-makes-phone-calls/
If you watch that video you'll see it's too big to be considered a cell phone by anyone.
If this device is real, I would give up my Peek and my S-10 and my Motorola V-195 to have one!
This thing will be running window 7 by Oct. 22, 2009!!
so there's a digital zoom for the screen right? i mean the least they could do is to bundle it with a free magnifying glass XD
XP? This thing should be a WINDOWS 7 PHONE....(it does have a USB port so its very doable)
now that i think about it, as long as it has that USB port it could be an UBUNTU PHONE
I was about to say.....
Nobody say Android.
Pfft, I would run KDE on that shit.
On a brighter note, this gem will be one of the few smartphones that is guaranteed to run Flash apps.
@Buu700
... right... since KDE is a linux distro. good effort to understand. did you mean Kubuntu perhaps?
@216
Did you say "UBUNTU PHONE"?......Sign me right the hell up.
I'll take 2
Not that much different from an OQO
I was gonna say the same thing, I mean OQO could connect to Sprint/Verizon so it was practically mobile...
Only a matter of time b4 Win7 phones!
http://www.blogcdn.com/chinese.engadget.com/media/2009/06/xp_090601.jpg
battery time seems reasonable, windows 7 demands too much hardware, IMHO.
Are you kidding? Windows 7 is the Obama of the computer industry! We should all hail it as the second coming of Christ and sacrifice our first born children just to acquire and worship it!!!!
are you hinting that vista is the Bush of the computer industry and Obama is actually using the same core?
that actually makes a lot sense.
htd:
Yes, they're both essentially humans.
I'm tempted to say:
"Same old shit in a new wrapper"
I'd ask for Crysis, but that's just too ambitious! I'll settle for 3D console emulators though. Can it run those?
I'm sure it could run up to Playstation 1 and N64 emulators.
This is a cell phone I wouldn't mind buying, if the battery life can be improved. It already has the ultimate app store. : )
Good golly. That's all we need.... XP on a phone. Ugh. I still hate loading/using XP these days. So clunky.
Since when did XP become "so awesome"? When Vista was released, I assume, but I don't remember overwhelming XP-love going on before that? Knee-jerk response to the Vista-dectractors, I suppose.
I, for one, am *very* happy to be moving beyond XP. As a sys admin, I would much rather support Windows 7 (or Vista, for that matter).
Just my $.02.
Enjoy your power-sucking OSes.
XP can be ran on as little as 233MHz with 64MB of ram, even less if tweaked up.
And Windows NT4 can run on a P90 with 16megs of RAM. How far back you wanna go?
The truth is: XP was fine in its day, but that day passed several years ago. It's old and clunky now. I'm not using a P233 with 64megs of RAM -- I'm running a quad-core with 4gigs of RAM. Time for an OS to match it. Oh, wait... Win7 does!
All I'm saying is that it's time to move along. XP is tired and needs to be put out to pasture.
But we aren't talking about your quad core super machine here are we? No, we are discussing a small underpowered battery operated system. Stop going out on a tangent, and somebody put Linux on this thing!
You'd think Microsoft would market an "XP Lite" designed for MID/ Smartphone use, until it had a Windows 7 "Lite."
With reduced requirements you'd get better battery life.
Lastly, how would SPLITTING the phone with a docking station work? Can the various USB, video, card reader & other ports be put on a docking station, leaving a svelte phone for pocket use?
This is a rehash of one of those Microsoft Origami computers that failed in the market place.
Yawn.
To use a bit of your own words:
WTF, unbelievable. The raging anti-Microsoft hordes are so intolerant they'll spout their hate at the slightest mention of anything Microsoft.
@ Nohone
Oh look at that, an Engadget stalker. How creepy that you're going around checking out the stuff I post.
That aside, the failure of the Origami-style computers MS tried to introduce is no fabrication. It's an unbiased fact that Microsoft just does not know how to sell to consumers.
Engadget on MIDs:
"You know that MID / UMPC craze (remember origami?) that was supposed to change our lives? Well, it hasn't.
...sales of bulky, Menlow-based MIDs have been a disaster..."
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/05/mid-device-sales-far-lower-than-estimates-only-intel-surprised/
Gizmodo on these new MIDs:
"Like most Mobile Internet Devices, they're Atom-based Windows XP devices, which means their batteries last, oh, about three hours, and that they're too big to be pocketable. As for why anyone would want a phone number permanently assigned to one of these devices, I have no idea."
http://gizmodo.com/5278490/computex-spawns-hellish-mid-phone-phenomenon
UMPCs failed. MIDs, will be the same story.
What the market wants are Android smartbooks FREE of any version of Windows in them --just like when netbooks first appeared. Any netbook/smartbook dual boot with Windows is a failure for Android. Android is more than capable of emerging as its own platform all on its own.
Gizmodo:
"Acer's Android Netbook Will Come With Windows, Fail at Being an "Android Netbook""
http://gizmodo.com/5279925/acers-android-netbook-will-come-with-windows-fail-at-being-an-android-netbook
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Don't be so big on yourself. You made a post yesterday in response to somebody who made a stupid post and was down ranked. I replied to that post, and still had it open in a web browser from last night. The point is, you have a crying fit because not everyone buys into the Apple only mentality, but then turn around and do the very thing you protest against.
As for your comments, you cherry pick from some (and I admit high-profile) blogs, but probably have not used any of those devices yourself. How sad that you cannot form your own opinion and can only listen to what others tell you to think. BTW, do you think it is a coincidence that UMPC was released, then a few years later iPhone was released? Where did Apple get the idea?
As for my partiality - I cannot write any more because I have a lot of people who are asking for new features in my iPhone app, and need to write some more code...
XP isn't exactly optimized for a touch experience is it...
Wait, is that minuscule track pad?
This thing would suck to use.
Hold on I gotta make a phone call:
Start>programs>accessories>system tools>phone
Or you could press that big call button. Your choice.
ah, well.
That clearly didn't help me illustrate my point.
My point being that It's clearly the wrong OS to put on a device like this..
no one say that you can't make shortcut on desktop and it have touchscreen.
And AMD cpu, eh?
And this lasts longer or almost as much as those Intel MIDs? You don't say?
Geode is the chip used in OLPC 'laptops'. It's basically an underclocked AMD Athlon.
by underclocked, he means fucking underclocked.
they are usually about 300-800Mhz, sometimes lower.
AMD Geode? No thanks, I will pass.
I want one, as long as the WASD keys are a little bigger....
My friend and I counted. It takes 756 licks to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop.
I bet you the "phone" part of the software suite will be a pile of arse and bollocks.
I will "literally" accept that bet to the sum of £100,000 paid in cash.
Why?
What does this do that a smart phone doesnt?
Make calls...
Surf the internet...
Word Process...
Store/play video music photos...
Play minesweeper... Aha!
my wife insists that i'm the only person on the face of the planet that wants a computer which is larger than a cell phone, but connected as a cell phone (voice and data)...i guess there's at least one other fool out there. For the people with size issues: just get a bluetooth earpiece and stick the phone in your pocket/manpurse.
Don't be so big on yourself. You made a post yesterday in response to somebody who made a stupid post and was down ranked. I replied to that post, and still had it open in a web browser from last night. The point is, you have a crying fit because not everyone buys into the Apple only mentality, but then turn around and do the very thing you protest against.
As for your comments, you cherry pick from some (and I admit high-profile) blogs, but probably have not used any of those devices yourself. How sad that you cannot form your own opinion and can only listen to what others tell you to think. BTW, do you think it is a coincidence that UMPC was released, then a few years later iPhone was released? Where did Apple get the idea?
As for my partiality - I cannot write any more because I have a lot of people who are asking for new features in my iPhone app, and need to write some more code...
@ Nohone
So, once again, strange that you accuse me of an Apple-only mentality when in this very thread I'm supporting Android, Apple's competitor in the web browser, mobile OS arena and quite possibly in the netbook/smartbook market. You must be the first self-proclaimed iPhone developer clown that I've ever seen trying to pin the development of the iPhone to UMPCs. You don't know your history do you?
1) 1993: Apple releases the Newton, the first general-purpose mobile computing device. Apple coins the term PDA.
2) 1996: Palm releases the Pilot. Microsoft copies the Newton and the Pilot with WinCE, gets smashed by Palm for years. (By 2000 the Palm OS powered 86% of all PDAs, then failed to innovate and allowed Windows to take over.)
3) 2001: Handspring merges the PDA and cell phone creating the first smartphone: Treo 180.
4) 2003: Steve Jobs was talks about a phone PDA at All Things Digital:
Walt Mossberg: A lot of people think given the success you've had with portable devices [iPods], you should be making a tablet or a PDA.
Steve Jobs: "I get a lot of pressure to do a PDA. What people really seem to want to do with these is get the data out. We believe cell phones are going to carry this information... We believe that mode is what cell phones need to get to."
5) 2004: Apple was already hard at work on creating the iPhone.
http://www.wired.com/gadgets/wireless/magazine/16-02/ff_iphone?currentPage=2
6) 2006: UMPC devices appear. Origami was the touch pack and basic touch interface skin from Microsoft on these devices.
7) 2007: Apple combines the sophistication of the Newton with the simplicity and affordability of the Palm Pilot, release the iPhone, becomes an instant success.
8) UMPCs fail at doing anything practical or very well, fail in the market place.
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