Nokia Nuron for T-Mobile review

Despite its flaws, the 5800 has gone on to become a global success for Nokia -- but can the Nuron do the same in a market traditionally unfazed by Nokia's advances? More directly, has Nokia's first volley in the modern touchphone battle evolved enough to become a prime-time player in the States? Let's find out.
As you might be able to gather from its family tree, the Nuron is a dead ringer for the 5230 and for the 5800 before it -- it's the same physical layout (and made from the same materials) all the way around, and the white / silver color scheme that T-Mobile has chosen for its version might be our favorite of the lot. Along the right side you've got a one-position camera button (there's no autofocus to worry about), a volume rocker, and the lock / unlock slider familiar to those who've used the 5800, N900, or a number of other Nokia products. On the left you'll find two slots protected by flaps -- one for the microSD card, another for the SIM; getting the SIM in is a simple matter, while getting it out again requires just a little more effort since you've got to remove the battery and use a pen or similarly-shaped object to pop it back out through a slot in the circuit board, but it shouldn't be a big deal unless you do a ton of SIM swapping. Along the top you've got a power button that calls up the typical profile menu when pressed, a 3.5mm headphone jack, a micro-USB port protected by a flap, and -- get this -- an old-school 2mm power jack. Why's it there, you ask? Because the Nuron doesn't charge over micro-USB, which is positively unheard of by 2010 standards, even in Nokia's own product pipeline. The only possible explanation is that the Nuron's based on 18 month-old hardware, but that doesn't make it acceptable.

On the left side, you'll also find a small hole toward the bottom. This is the lanyard port, an accessory that plays a slightly more important role on the Nuron than on most phones because -- like the 5800 -- it's provided with a plectrum in the box. As a refresher, "plectrum" is the uncool dictionary term for a guitar pick, and "uncool" is exactly how we'd describe Nokia's expectation that anyone would want to carry this thing on a string hanging off the corner of their phone. How necessary is the plectrum, exactly? Fortunately, we found that the resistive display pared with the latest incarnation of S60 5th Edition here does a relatively good job of keeping our fat fingers happy, and for those very rare occasions where we need more precision, we can just turn our finger around and use our fingernail temporarily. Disaster averted, no plectrum necessary -- but seriously, if Nokia really thought you'd need a tool like this, they would've been well-served to find a way to slip a stylus into the case (something better than the 5800's afterthought of a stylus built into the battery cover, that is). We're sure there's room.
We know there'd be room for a stylus because something very, very important was left out of the Nuron: WiFi. To leave out WiFi from a smartphone these days and charge $70 for it on contract is almost insulting, and it's particularly egregious when you're launching the device on the carrier with the smallest 3G footprint of the Big Four. Of course, we've got to let T-Mobile take part of the blame on this one -- they (and their customers) would've been well-served to ask Nokia for a branded version of the WiFi-equipped 5800 rather than the 5230, which in turn would've made us a wee bit more comfortable with the sticker price. As it stands, though, this is an extremely difficult device to recommend if you're outside of T-Mobile's 3G coverage area.

The phone offers up essentially the same tried-and-true WebKit-based champion of a browser that Nokia has been using on its smartphone for years, which does a fabulous job of rendering most sites designed for desktops; finger scrolling and automatic orientation changes both work well, too, but we found that the phone tended to choke up on more complex sites (Engadget is an unfortunate example). In general, the phone felt a little underpowered for some of the tasks it was being asked to perform; the "bounce" effect at the ends of lists during inertial scrolls was a little jerky, for example, and even simple tasks like pausing music were met with momentary delays -- nothing more than a fraction of a second, but perceptible nonetheless.
The big deal about the Nuron -- the 800-pound gorilla on the spec sheet, if you will -- is the fact that it includes Ovi Maps with turn-by-turn capability for free out of the box, making it one of the cheapest phones to ship anywhere with usable in-car navigation at no additional charge. We've already shown that Ovi shakes out as a pretty good solution when you put it up against the competition, and the Nuron is no exception -- but the phone shares the same weakness that we've seen on countless Nokias (and BlackBerrys) of the past: it's pretty hard to get a location lock. Anyone with an Android device or an iPhone of any generation knows that they can hop into their mapping app and get a rough location fix almost immediately, but even with AGPS fully enabled on the Nuron, we waited for several minutes by a window with downtown Washington, DC showing on the display (we're in Chicago) before giving up.
Wrap-up
In 1965, a man by the name of Ralph Nader published a book entitled Unsafe at Any Speed, an exposé of the American auto industry that detailed extreme safety shortcomings of cars manufactured at the time. What the heck does that have to do with the Nuron? Well, bear with us for a moment.The 5230 is a phone that sells internationally for €149 unsubsidized, unlocked, and unbranded. That's just $200! The Nuron, by contrast, is locked and branded, which immediately devalues the phone by a somewhat unquantifiable amount -- but regardless of the dollar figure you want to put on that, it's worth something less than $200. T-Mobile meanwhile charges you $70 to own this phone on top of a two-year contract with a $200 early-termination fee. Translated, that means that if you buy this phone, break your contract, and keep the phone, you're out $270.
Coincidentally, we kept thinking to ourselves "this might be a decent phone if it were free on contract" as we played with it. But it's not free, and it's certainly not worth a dime more than that. In other words, it's -- drum roll, please -- Unrecommendable at Any Price.

Here's another way of looking at it. In the context of T-Mobile's smartphone lineup, you've got the WinMo-based Dash 3G at $50, the G1 at $100, and the CLIQ XT at $130; realistically, we might expect to see the G1 fall in price one more time before it's discontinued. The Dash 3G's WinMo roots and lack of a touchscreen make it a tough call, but we wouldn't hesitate to recommend a G1 over the Nuron; like the G1, Nokia's latest entry certainly isn't going to win any beauty or thickness contests, and the G1 is arguably a significantly more capable device out of the box. Yes, free turn-by-turn is the Nuron's ace in the hole -- but when you've got this many negatives stacked up against you, it's just not enough, especially when you consider that Google Maps Navigation is on Android 1.6 anyhow.
If there's a positive we can take from this, it's that Nokia and T-Mobile are starting to work a lot more closely together than they have in the past; the Nuron is evidence of that, of course, and the N900's AWS support is a telling sign, too. With MeeGo in the pipe and Symbian chugging along, we're excited to see what these guys do together in the future, but for now, the Nuron -- which hits stores this Wednesday -- is unfortunately a strong avoid.



























Looks Ugly
With $200 (or $170?) unlocked, we could not agree more that it is worth the money. Free navigation with Ovi Maps I tells ya!
"In other words, it's -- drum roll, please -- Unrecommendable at Any Price."
Really, Engadget? Really? Even not $1?
@masochist Plenty of better phones are free (with and without long-term contracts).
@Daaba99
I'm sure it looks better in person. It reminds me of the Sony Ericsson W810i. The phone itself was kinda ugly in pictures, but the dimensions in person are truly fantastic and you don't see that from these pictures. I like phones that are narrow but are somewhat chunky because they have a good feel to them.
no wifi, resistive touchscreen, is quite reasonable, for that price range, basically you are getting more for what you are paying for: a t-mobile 3g capable smartphone with built-in navigation with for 179.99 w/o contract
its also a world phone, works anywhere with 2100mhz 3g (Most of europe and asia), not a bad deal
@rudiger Name one without contracts.
@masochist
For £99 ($140) pay as you go in UK on T-mobile network, that contract phone looks like a rip off, especially at $200 unlocked
The network prices are terrible in the US compared to Europe
@masochist Sidenote: This cousin of the 5800 trades wi-fi and some camera resolution for a more affordable price tag. This smartphone is otherwise full-featured, including a large touch display, 2-megapixel camera, GPS navigation, memory card slot, and accelerometer.
Middle aged average-citizens perhaps would appreciate this phone. Updates: http://bit.ly/nokia-nuron-5230-exposed
@Daaba99
Lame review, considering this is a under $200 device, not a $599.
And again Chris thinks that NorMobs will buy device like G1 instead of this?
@rudiger Which ones?
@rudiger
I want free phones too. Please share. We are waiting.
"Unrecommendable at Any Price."
What's the author of this article? A moron? Or has your days with the infinitely more intuitive iPhone, Palm Pre, and Android making you forget how to use a typical candybar phone? This phone is a touchscreen. But just because it doesn't act like the newer touchscreens out there UI-wise doesn't mean it's garbage. If anything, it handles very much like a traditional candybar most people are comfortable with.
This "review" is crap. If you guys want an objective, unbiased review, go to GSMArena or other mobile phone sites. Hell, if the reviewer wanted to tackle the device's basic usability metrics, why did he fail to mention screen legibility under certain lighting conditions, the 640x360 3.2" screen (480x320 on "newer, much better and more expensive devices" is too close to WQVGA which is soooo 2007), loudspeaker volume, touchscreen sensitivity, etc. He missed too many things and he made it convenient to downplay the 5230 despite comparisons to phones twice or even nearly thrice its price.
To the article writer: recommend me a phone that is VGA or WVGA and has MORE features than the 5230 for UNDER $200. If anything is unrecommendable, it's your reviews, for any device.
@masochist
In fairness I wouldn't buy this on an expensive contract - who would? However, since that's not the point of this phone then it's a silly thing to expect people to do.
Then again Engadget completely missed the point of the 5800 as well. 10 million plus sales shows by how big a margin that miss was.
Honestly, I don't understand why Nokia doesn't change their design team. Their phones just do not appeal to me (for looks) at ALL. And their always so thick! If they had phones that were thin like the 5310 xpress music, maaaybe they would be desirable.
It's probably just a North American thing though to not like the look of Nokia products, as they do amazing in Europe. Just different tastes I guess!
@month
not a regional thing. your just so used to companies forcing you to carry a phone you can not use with one hand that when nokia puts one out the first thought in your head is its ugly. i guarantee it will feel far more at home in your hand then any other phone, especially when you text/email.
still think chris is an idiot and this article proves it. have you even tried the new firmwares? are you really that clueless?
@(Unverified)
Really? I rarely ever use my left hand with my Hero. It's just a matter of personal taste. Most of Nokia's phone designs don't appeal to me but to be quite honest, I don't think this one is really that bad. I actually quite like it (though it could stand to lose some thickness). And the N900 is just pure beauty in my opinion.
@(Unverified)
Agree, and beside that, Not every phone made is meant to be high end phone, seriously I'm getting a little bit sick with all this smartphone hype.
seriously Nokia? Do what Palm and Microsoft did! Kill your old platforms and start fresh. Do something innovative! We all have to thank Apple though for this mobile revolution!
@Rajivsri They can't. They are even more incompetent software developers than Microsoft. It all reminds me of Cartman saying: "I would if I could you...!"
@sr1329
Yeah ... MS doesn't know anything about writing software. They only own a global market share of 90%+ on OS's and even higher for office productivity software. That's just the tip of the iceberg.
I get it that it's cool to rip on MS but please pick a better topic to slam them on.
@Rajivsri I agree, and I don't understand why you were down ranked. It may be because the Apple comment makes you sound like an insufferable fan boy. Just sayin'
@I was swhite237 I lost my passwo
I'm glad someone agrees with me. I really don't know why my comment was downranked. As you said, it could possibly be because of the apple comment but I was not being a fanboy. I was not trying to diss Microsoft or palm either. I was merely stating the facts. Engadget readers need to think before they downrank some comments.
@Rajivsri
You were downranked mainly asking Nokia to kill old platforms, when these old platform is still more "powerful" albeit may be not as pretty compared to some of the current platforms. Also may be you are not aware of new Symbian^3 and Symbian^4 and Maemo and Meego.
nokia will never make a pre or an iphone because it can freeze a turd and it will sell 50 million units
So, Nokia bringing a year old phone to the US, yet again. Fail. If you really want this thing, Nokia themselves is selling one unlocked, with AT&T 3G support to boot, for only $180 (pre-order, yeah, we in the US are pre-ordering a year old phone. Sad.).
Battery life info please? Also, I like how you referenced the iPhone without saying iPhone when referring to the scrolling checkerboard when browsing.
Or you can buy it at $180 MSRP (locked and branded) without contract.
I don't understand why someone would buy this under contract.
I would definitely consider buying one (Ovi Maps, 3G, $10 data plan, and etc).
@bachviet t-mobile lets you unlock the phone, just call them and ask them for the unlock code.
@bachviet Nokia has the phone unlocked for $180 for pre-order.
@bachviet well if you're sure to be with a carrier for the next two years anyway and it's easy to get the phone unlocked, why not get it subsidized?
looks good
@xinjii
"well if you're sure to be with a carrier for the next two years anyway and it's easy to get the phone unlocked, why not get it subsidized?"
Because subsidized phones cost more. Anybody who isn't skint should buy their phones unsubsidized. Only the people who dont have 200$ should buy subsidized phones, all others save money buying unsubsidized.
@pika2000 True but it doesn't have the 3G bands for T-Mobile. It's an AT&T 3G compatible version.
@bruslim I know that.
Sorry for the off topic question, but I seen an unboxing of the SE X10 and the person said it has a resistive screen. Can anyone confirm if it is indeed resistive or capacitive? I would consider it as my next phone if it has a capacitive screen.
@Ezye1313 Capacitive 100%.
@month It was an unboxing done by phone dog and he says this several times.
@month its resistive... capacitive screens don't work with plastic plectrums
@bruslim No he's talking about the Sony Ericsson xperia X10
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10-2964.php
It's capacitive
@month The video has been removed.
Same old same old
I've been using a 5800 for the past 3 months and within the last month I upgraded to firmware to version 40. It made a huge difference and made the phone a lot more pleasant to use compared to the original version that shippied with it (21). Reading Engadget's original review of the 5800 they would have had version 21 as well and I can understand their 'dissapointment' with it.
I actually really like the form factor of the 5800/5230; it may be chunky but it isn't very wide and fits great in my hand and pocket. I do really hate the 2.5mm charging port though; brutal.
Battery life is decent I suppose; if you do some browsing and listening to music it will probably last 6 hours or so. Very little use and it will last a few days. However, doing heavy browsing and using a lot of applications including GPS, Bluetooth and Wifi may only get you a couple hours.
Ovi Maps is an excellent application. In Canada there is nothing that can compete with it for the price (free).
Regardless, I did just buy a Nexus One but I think I'll be missing the free nav software.
@xraycat82 you are aware that the nexus one has free nav in Google maps?
@Edobe Only in the USA. I mentioned that I am in Canada. Regardless, Ovi Maps is still the best free nav software as it also operates offline.
Hell, I may keep my 5800 around just as wifi/media/gps device.
@xraycat82 Head over to xda developers to get your google maps navigation working in canada!
@B3astofthe3ast ya I read about the hacked version; it isn't a nav system if it doesn't tell you the street names or have voice navigation. It's just a goofy version of google maps from what I can tell.
I really really thought this review was un-fair. Regardless of the way it looks, lack of wi-fi or the OS, it's the cheapest smart phone you can buy in the US unlocked. Most smart phones retail from 300+, this phone manages to do what most smart phones today do for only two hundred. I know I'm going to get hell from people on here but oh well. This phone is for people that are new to smart phones, who want a basic midrange phone, not a in your face phone like the iPhone or Droid. When I went to test it out, I was suprised how accurate the screen was, seeing how it has a resistive screen. Hell, it even had a task manager. Not saying this is better than a iPhone or Droid or Nexus but atleast it manages to get the job done.
@Wil2Win You are so right. One would think a blog like this would be able to review things within the right genre. The 5800 sold(sells) Precisely for those reasons and this is gonna do the same, maybe except for US.
When is comes to their touch phones Nokia needs to do what Microsoft did NUKE the whole thing and start over there is no way Nokia can grow with what its up against right now.
Please guys stop comparing this phone to the G1 or the Dash or any "smartphone" in tmobiles lineup because it is NOT considered a smartphone by tmobile. It will use the web2go service that only costs $10 per month not that $25 per month that the smartphones use so for a basic phone its not all that bad. Not my choice of course but its not in the same league as the smartphones.