NVIDIA GeForce GTX 465 rounds up mostly positive reviews
By Vlad Savov 
posted May 31st 2010 8:03AM
posted May 31st 2010 8:03AM
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NVIDIA Continues the Fermi Revolution with GeForce GTX 465
Latest Consumer GPU Does DX11 Right with Multiple Tessellation Engines, 3D Vision and Blu-ray 3D Support
COMPUTEX-Taipei-May 31, 2010-Showcased as part of the NVIDIA® 3D Revolution press conference held today at the start of this year's Computex trade show, the newest entry to the NVIDIA Fermi™ architecture lineup of consumer GPUs-the GeForce® GTX 465-has officially launched. Available now from the world's leading add-in card partners, system builders and OEMs, with a target price of $279, the GeForce GTX 465 GPU brings a new level of DirectX 11 performance to PC enthusiasts and gamers around the world.
The entire GeForce GTX 400 series of consumer GPUs was designed from the ground up to deliver potent gaming performance with the top-of-the-line GTX 480 delivering up to 8x faster geometry tessellation, than the closest competitive product. The new GTX 465 features 11 dedicated tessellation engines, resulting in outstanding performance at a new price point for GeForce GTX 400 GPUs. Tessellation allows game developers to take advantage of the GeForce GTX 400 series GPUs' ability to increase the geometric complexity of models and characters to deliver far more realistic and visually compelling gaming environments. Combined with support for NVIDIA 3D Vision™ technology, the industry's only complete 3D stereoscopic solution for the new category of 3D PCs, the GTX 465 offers gamers an attractive price point to play the latest cutting-edge titles at full HD, 1080p resolutions.
In addition to DirectX11 and NVIDIA 3D Vision, the GeForce GTX 465 GPUs also support enhanced gaming features found only on NVIDIA GPUs:
* NVIDIA SLI® technology, the most populari multi-GPU solution.
* Support for Blu-ray 3D, with GPU decoding for enhanced 3D movie playback and 3D Internet streaming.
* NVIDIA PhysX® technology to bring games to life with dynamic, interactive environments.
* Next-generation CUDA™ architecture, the foundation for the world's most open GPU computing platform, with complete language and API support, including CUDA C/C++, DirectCompute, OpenCL, Java, Python, and Fortran for the broadest compatibility with GPU-accelerated applications, including Internet Explorer 9, Folding@home, and others.
"With GeForce GTX 465, now even more gamers can experience what DX11 gaming was meant to be," said Drew Henry, general manager of GeForce GPUs at NVIDIA. "By using these new GPUs to build 3D Vision PCs, these same gamers will truly immerse themselves into the future of PC gaming. We are passionate about building GPUs to make the PC the best platform for gamers!"
The GeForce GTX 465 is available starting today with an estimated retail price of $279 from leading add-in-card companies including ASUS, EVGA, Galaxy, MSI, Palit, PNY, Zotac and others.
I'll stick with my GTX 480 thanks
@Bender the great
may i present to you the mother of all current video cards as an alternative option
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161311&cm_re=5970-_-14-161-311-_-Product
:D
@DefPoet You could if it supported CUDA and 3D Vision
@Bender the great, show me a useful application for home use that takes advantage of CUDA?
(Nvidia 3D Vision = ATI Eyefinity)
@Bender the great
It still is the most powerful video card out there and while it does not support cuda or 3D Vision it does support openGL and 3D monitor and eyefinity. If you need cuda and the like then wait i would of waited a bit for nvidia's dual gpu card which is due out soon if history repeats it self
@SSD
Alot of software to create DVDs now uses cuda to encode your video to proper format. That's probably the best home-use at the moment.
On the other hand, it also works miracles it me on an almost daily basis for my video editing work in Premiere Pro.
739 umm no thank u
@DefPoet
when a 480 can run as good as a 5970... your point is moot.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1709275
vs
http://service.futuremark.om/compare?3dmv=2128373
@Fozzy Bear
You must be new to this PC game cause a senthetic benchmark vs. real world benchmark are two different things.( besides the 480 scores are inflated because of physx which nvidia does not allow on ATI cards)
Compare Frame rates in games for a better comparison on which is a better "video" card
@DefPoet
Look, I know this is hard for you seeing that you went out on a limb claiming the GPU universe revolves around the 5970. But let me help you get your planets in order -- since you are no authority on the matter.
1. There isn't going to be a dual GF100 based card. If they release one, it'll be towards the end of the year and it will be a GF104 variant at the same 40nm process.
2. Your 5970 is $700 and is largely out of stock.
3. Regarding Vantage, yeah, it's synthetic, however, as all smart enthusiasts know, there is no GPU score advantage given to GPUs with PhysX, it's CPU/overall score only.
So, to recap, the links I provided highlight the GPU scores where a 480 beats a 5970 as it's own game -- that is, the Sapphire/ATI sponsored 3dMark Vantage.
When 480s start beating 5970s in synth benchmarks for $200 cheaper and they already can match a 5970 in about 50% of the most popular games currently on the market. I'd say that you're the one slightly misinformed about the matter especially posting it in a GTX 465 article.
I'd have linked to new benches, but most haven't reposted/updated their articles against the new 257.15 beta drivers -- because, well, they're still beta.
@Bender the great
I shall wait for the inevitable launch of GTX 490/495, which will most likely feature two 448 core chips and 2-3 GB of memory. History always repeats itself. Always.
PS: I wish they made all the cores available. Each Fermi chip has 16 x 32 cores. The GTX 480 has 15 x 32 lines available. GTX 470 has 14 x 32 lines available, and this new GTX 465 has 11 x 32 lines available.
If only the GTX 495 had two 512-core chips and 3 GB of memory, then the 5970 has nothing on it. The power consumption on the other hand would be beastly.
@Fozzy Bear
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=5970&x=0&y=0
ALL in stock
http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-features/38046-nvidia-gets-a-big-advantage-in-3dmark-vantage-because-of-physx-on-gpu-tech
or
http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=7198
as for the $200 price difference well two 480's would cas more than one 5970
as for smartness the majority of the [H]orde begs to differ. if you didn't understand then don't even bother replying
@DefPoet
2x 480 smokes 5970 and 2x 5870s. Worth the difference.
@Fozzy Bear
"smokes". Indeed.
@SSD
CoreAVC does, Just Cause 2.;)
@DefPoet lol - that newegg link isn't helping ATI much - first two posts were all about how HIS and how they had to RMA their cards after running them briefly.
At least I know with EVGA/Nvidia the cards are going to work out of the box!
yea considering the power consumption if you've got a year old built system working at a good rate chances are getting a GTX 465 could mean reaching a little deeper into the savings account for a better PSU.
this could make the 5850 a slightly better alternative but than again Fermi for under 300 sounds good
Still looks like ATI's got Nvidia beat on this one (for gamers atleast).
That thing looks built. Wouldn't want to upset it in any way shape or form.
@buoy see now, my first though was "Mmmmmm that thing is built"
@buoy WTF does he mean?
Prices seem to high on all the new chips from both companies. Where are the mid-ranged stuff?
quote for tomshardware
Honestly, I’m not sure what Nvidia was thinking with this one. Surely, its competitive analysis team ran these very same benchmarks and found the GeForce GTX 465 and Radeon HD 5830 trading blows. Surely, the same group of folks hopped online and saw Radeon HD 5830s selling for $220, going as low as $199 with rebates. How, then, did they decide that $279 was a good starting point for suggested pricing?
With Radeon HD 5850s available at $289, just $10 more, that’s unquestionably the route we’d take today.
how is this positive engadget? It performs worse than a ATI 5830 and cost 50 dollars more?
@DefPoet
Sure thing. I didn't even bother reading any other reviews.
Picking up the HD5850 over this is a no-brainer.
@DefPoet I addressed what you're talking about in my nVNews review of the EVGA GTX 265 SC. At stock and overclocked speeds it went up against a Sapphie Radeon HD 5830 (at stock and overclocked speeds). Editors, if you wouldn't mind, please add the nVNews review to your list. It's more of a "real world" review that shows the performance of cards like these in a system that is not top-of-the-line. Most value-oriented enthusiast gamers don't have a an i7 or an x6 cpu, and video cards that only show a card's capability with zero cpu limitation can be misleading.
In the interest of time we (nVNews) decided to publish the review in our forums rather than on the front page. I may be adding more benchmark results at a later time.
Link: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=151518
Mind you, I haven't reviewed in a few years (I'm a bit rusty, lol), and i only had 3 days to get all this info together in a semi-coherent package while hoping all the while that my rig wouldn't inadvertently blow up.
:)
@DefPoet And people with Crossfire capable motherboards also have the option of buying 2x5770's at that price range, which would not only use substantially less power ($ savings from lower electricity bills) but also be quite a bit faster.
@ragejg
I bow before you for such an great review with nice photography to boot.
*applause* *applause* *applause* *applause* *applause* *applause*
really that read was great. :D
they need to name their graphics cards along the lines of ATI with their 3000, 4000, 5000 series. I don't understand all these nVidia graphics card names, with GTX, GTS and so on.
@dedparrot
gtx = extreme
gts = super
gt = standard
no letters just numbers = very basic
simple enough :)
@dedparrot
although i agree it would be simpler to name the high end like 480,481,ect. the mid range 450,etc. the low end 420,etc and the integrated 400,etc
Too expensive. Too hot. Too power hungry. Nothing changed on the way down from the nuclear furnace that is the GTX480/470.
Should AMD really drop the HD6xxx (southern islands) series, a hybrid of cypress (HD5xxx) and next years completely new architecture (northern islands), onto the market this year, the outlook for nvidia in the gaming business will be grim.
On the bright side, they seem to make a good buck with Thermi as a HPC product. Undoubtly the intended market for this design...
@Bahumbug, The HPC market is not adapting to the Fermi either due to the same problems - to hot and to power hungry. SGI just announced last week that it won't built a system around the Fermi. Instead they are concentrating on Intel's Atom which has much lower power requirements. SGI is stuffing 10,000 Atom CPU's onto one 19" server rack which would be impossible to do with Nvidia's Fermi.
"...something to consider if you're rolling along with an old school 400W PSU in your rig."
>:I *stares at PSU*
Fermi = Fail, no matter how they roll it...
I hope their next design will be released soon and be a awesome or nvidia will go the way of 3dfx... not undeserved, though...
Wy didnt they drop the GeForce name for Fermi and stop all this stupid numbering business going on? Its getting silly now
IT looks a little plasticy, like those Star Wars lightsabers everyone bought at Wal-Mart.
NVIDIA must be as nervous as a virgin in a brothel. ATi are just wiping the floor with them, especially considering how the 5830 pricing is now VERY competitive.
@richb93
why would you be nervous? you're paying for them to handle it all for you.
Funny how Anandtech Review was not included in this article, when they almost always are included in all other articles of this sort. Biased much?
Lets not forget u only need one card for triple monitor support on a 5xxx series card.
That is an ugly card...
What's with the plastic looking crap on it...really?
I got a 5870 last time I had to upgrade, previously had a gtx260. Lookin at this fine example of crap from nvidia makes me not regret having to deal with some ati driver bs. nvidia...why you failing to see no one wants a heat hoven in the form of a gfx card? why?
I pity the fool that buys this card. I mean, if you don't have i5/i7, it's okay, you're CPU limited. But if you have an i5 or i7 and you play demanding games, you need at least the 470. It is faster in more games, without a doubt, than the 5850. Go read all the reviews Engadget linked for the 470, write down all the games, and write down which GPU was faster. The vast majority will be the 470. And with such immature drivers and limited tessellation available in games right now, it's performance lead will only grow.
@Smurf Not sure about the 470 (which is their best card) beating the 5850 but there other CPUs on the market which will not reach their limit when gaming.
Can it play Crysis 2?
Well, you got to do something with the lower bin chips that don't make the grade to be a 470.
Still think you'd have to be a dyed-in-the-wool nVidia fan to want one over a 5xxx series Radeon though.
I've largely ignored the video card market the last few years ago so it's surprising to see the roles have changed so much. A few years ago, nVidia was the top dog and ATI was about a half-step behind. Now it seems the situation has completely reversed. Seems ATI has the edge in performance, price-performance and wattage departments?
I'm curious...what happened to nvidia? Or conversely, what happened to ATI? Seems nvidia's latest and greatest chips demand far more power than ATI's chips at a given performance level. Is this simply ATI benefiting from AMD's experience? Or did nvidia lose key designers and screw the pooch with their latest designs?
@arcasinky simple, ATi have been cleverly designing their chips whereas nvidia have been brute forcing theirs; all we are seeing now is that brute forcing catching up.