Update on Steorn's Orbo boondoggle
By Thomas Ricker 
posted July 5th 2007 8:47AM
posted July 5th 2007 8:47AM
"We are experiencing some technical difficulties with the demo unit in London. Our initial assessment indicates that this is probably due to the intense heat from the camera lighting. We have commenced a technical assessment and will provide an update later today. As a consequence, Kinetica will not be open to the public today (5th July). We apologise for this delay and appreciate your patience."
Yeah, whatever. Still, like a car crash we just can't turn away no matter how wrong we know it to be.
Update: You can watch their
Update 2: The other cameras now appear to be live (or looping anyway). That's a close up of the device which is still not moving. Hell, we're not even sure if it's the "free energy" powered device or just a stand-in. After all, it was supposed to be lifting a weight, remember?
[Thanks, Daniel H.]
Gasp! They couldn't display it!
Shocking!
And Camera 3 is a loop! We've been duped!
Is it me ... or does the cat in camera 3 look like he doesn't know wtf he's looking for?
Such a surprise *rolls eyes*
established laws of physics FTW!
If you want an update of what you
This thing is so lame my father thought of this idea 8 years ago and now it is finally surfacing how frustrating
In other news, the local rspca is looking into claims that a local art exhibition is using live hamsters as display. As a result of overheating the entire hamster population has died, more on this story as it develops.
So predictable.
Yesterday he said the demo would be lifting a weight, and now it looks like it will be turning a polycarbonate wheel.
Inconcistancies + delay = major scepticism
Yesterday he said the demo would be lifting a weight, and now it looks like it will be turning a polycarbonate wheel.
Inconcistancies + delay = major scepticism
Its 3:52 PM (IST)
The Steorn site says, watch us live from 4 different camera angles..
But no Video :(
Steor Play is paused :)
Swami
Oh, and maybe they also change their virtual display to something that does not require some WMA plugin while they're at it.
You all have never done a presentation for work and have some kind of tech difficulty? Give them a chance to present before you judge their project.
Isn't that what everyone said about the iphone before it was released? Don't knock it till you have tried it hands on at an AT&T or Apple store.
"I heard the jury's still out on... science."
Man, I miss that show.
The difference being that the iPhone is just a gadget and not some world changing devise (although some people think it is) that defies the basic principles of science...
As much as I would love to see that they can live up to there words, I seriously doubt it.
iphone wasn't technically infeasible(quite the opposite, off the shelf tech for it was available 4 years ago).
if someone was claiming that iphone could do 1000mbit/s over edge. that would be about on the same level.
sure, it's customary to give the benefit of doubt... to plausable sounding claims.
The difference being that the iPhone is just a gadget and not some world changing devise (although some people think it is) that defies the basic principles of science...
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$85.95 for a new battery defies *something*
http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/battery/
;)
"You all have never done a presentation for work and have some kind of tech difficulty? Give them a chance to present before you judge their project."
I think someone needs to brush up on their laws of physics.
The reason we're all so skeptical is because "free energy" is impossible. If it were possible, the universe as we know it would literally cease to exist. The reason the universe can exist in stable form is that energy remains constant; nothing is ever created or destroyed.
Nobody ever looked at the iPhone and said it was impossible because its existence defied the laws of physics and would eventually destroy the universe. It's not the same thing.
"You all have never done a presentation for work and have some kind of tech difficulty? Give them a chance to present before you judge their project."
I think someone needs to brush up on their laws of physics.
The reason we're all so skeptical is because "free energy" is impossible. If it were possible, the universe as we know it would literally cease to exist. The reason the universe can exist in stable form is that energy remains constant; nothing is ever created or destroyed.
Nobody ever looked at the iPhone and said it was impossible because its existence defied the laws of physics and would eventually destroy the universe. It's not the same thing.
I am clear on my laws of physics, being that I am a senior civil engineering student at VT. But, I don't know a who lot about this particular device, I do seem to remember seeing it on here a while back. (Most of my nerd time on the internet is spent studying concrete mix design) But, I am willing to at least see their presentation.
I am not one to knock anything before I have at least listened to someone. I believe people thought the world was flat for quite some time and that the sun revolved around earth. (I know, I know that was religious leadership and but they were the scientist of their time.)
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"The reason we're all so skeptical is because 'free energy' is impossible. If it were possible, the universe as we know it would literally cease to exist."
Hmmm, good point. BTW, has anyone seen my dolphin?
Arrested Development!!! HA! There are other fans out there. Funny, "Arrested Development" is a fitting title for this little dilemma.
Coincidence:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6272752.stm
How revolutionary, a device that produces free power, as long as there's no lighting around.
Obviously, due to the quantum nature of the device, it can't be observed and operate at the same time...
why don't they use infrared lighting?
You can see the engineers here: http://www.astream.com/live/steorn/camera3.html
Right now it doesn't seem to be a live feed for me. Just a short little loop of video. How many times is that guy outside going to look inside?
http://www.astream.com/live/steorn/camera3.html - this feed is a bit different from Well other show some people in steon t-shirt discussing something
http://www.astream.com/live/steorn/camera4.html shows the stand with empty plastic box!
Heh, it's so revolutionary they can't turn off a few lights and show us anyway. Nice. Or maybe it only works in pitch black, and thus can never actually be seen working. Ever.
But it's OK, because I've myself invented awesome technology that can't be seen! You see, I've invented special invisible werewolf repelling forcefields and put them all over the world. Why do you think there hasn't been a werewolf attack in years? Oh, my machines also work as cloaking devices for Bigfoot, which is why you can't actually find Bigfoot but you can see his footprints. Sorry, but Bigfoot contributed a lot of the physical law-breaking technology behind my invisible werewolf fields so it was the least I could do to keep him from being disturbed.
HAHAHA! I'll take three!
This is obviously some kind of scam. They trick idiot investors into handing over huge wads of cash, and then skip the country while the demo is 'warming up'.
This kind of thing comes along every few years, and every time these morons become a laughing stock when their piece of crap inventions are revealed.
Scientific revolutions just don't happen like this. The truth is far slower, more considered, and more boring!! Just look at fusion power.
This contraption obviously works by harnessing zero-point energy, by taking advantage of the loopholes in thermodynamics offered by the quantum uncertainty principle. As an unforunate result, looking at the machine, or observing/measuring it or its output in any way, collapses the quantum waveform and it can no longer operate. Such a "schrodinger device" would appear to have limited usefulness, but this is not so. Put in a sealed container, along with the equipment it is to power, it will generate (and also NOT generate, as a result of quantum duality) for all eternity, on condition it has absolutely no connection to the ouside world.
This troll just ate, thanks.
"They trick idiot investors into handing over huge wads of cash, and then skip the country while the demo is 'warming up'."
The thing is already warm thats the problem. lol
Shopping list:
1) teleporter... check!
2) time machine... check!
3) perpetual energy device... check!
Beam me up, Scotty!
(The only thing funnier would be the device actually working.)
this should not be that funny, but i just can't stop laughing.
Heisenberg, yoou bastarrrrrd!
I TOLD YOU NOT TO LOOK!
Ugh, I feel like I'm missing something deeply and terribly funny here. Can anybody let me in on the secret? Please?
Tom
Its a quantum physics joke (yes, I know). the hiesenburg uncertainty principle. Basically, simply observing an experiment affects it outcome, in this case, the Steorn Magical Free Lunch Dispenser got an unfalsifiable case of stage-fright.
Thanks Mike =D
LOL - of all the comments - that made me crack up!
it's the old collapse of the wave function problem. The moment you look at it, you've eliminated the other possibilities. I wonder if the cat on camera was Schrödinger's...
Cam 4 working as well for me, and different setup to see between the two cams!
Not same place, not same guys...
What are those videos?
you'd think they would have tested in light, heat, cold, wet, dry....
so it either doesn't work, or is mostly impractical. if it has to use its "free" energy to maintain an ideal working environment, how much would be left to actually power something else?
What bothers me is, if the heat from the cameras causes problems with the device then how can it have any potential for powering devices which generate a lot of heat, such as... well, anything with moving parts, or anything with a lot of electricity running through it...
How?
Keeping the device a little further away from Orbo? Your house is powered by a big fecking turbine, but is there one sat right next to every single device in your home?
WTH is "Steorn"? How do you pronounce it?
Is it:
Stee-orn?
Stay-orn?
Sti-orn?
I think it's pronounced "gotchaaaa"
I think it's pronounced "gotchaaaa"
Störn
Nothing to see here folks. Move along.