Nokia's N810 makes first appearance, drops jaws
We're still waiting for the press release, but that's Nokia N810 Internet Tablet in the fo' realz. Yeah, sexy is an understatement. We peeped this model in a spyshot back in July and appears to be the same lovely recently revealed by the FCC. The obvious improvement to the N800? The full QWERTY.
Update: Details now rolling in.
[Via InternetTabletTalk, thanks Noah]
Update: Details now rolling in.
[Via InternetTabletTalk, thanks Noah]
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Fitzy @ Oct 17th 2007 8:43AM
me wants.
PCFanboisrock @ Oct 17th 2007 8:48AM
NOT QUITE AN IPHONE KEEP TRYING NOKIA!
Argot @ Oct 17th 2007 8:54AM
The Nokia is what the iPhone dreams to be when it grows up.
Argot @ Oct 17th 2007 9:30AM
Call me when the iBrick gets 3G or even basic cut/paste or MMS. The iBrick is the laughingstock of Europe and Asia.
daliminator2000 @ Oct 17th 2007 9:56AM
EVEN THOUGH THIS IS THE INTERNET IT STILL DOESN'T GIVE YOU A LEGITIMATE EXCUSE TO WRITE IN ALL CAPS WHILE ACTING LIKE A SUPERIOR PRICK FROM THE SAFETY OF SOME LITTLE CLOSET SOMEWHERE. KTHXSTFU.
Alan Partridge @ Oct 17th 2007 10:00AM
If you look at "PCFanboisrock" post history every single one has been an ALL CAPS trolling post. Time for a Banning?
LegendZ28 @ Oct 17th 2007 10:05AM
Don't feed the troll, guys. You're wasting your time.
kerunt @ Oct 17th 2007 11:37AM
WRITING IN CAPS DOES NOT INCREASE THE SIZE OF YOUR ePENUS or iBALLS, SORRY.
LiQuiD_FuSioN @ Oct 17th 2007 12:25PM
You are an intolerable, driveling, incompetent, annoying, moronic, twat who obviously fails to see that this isn't a phone. So, why compare it as such when it's just a fancy web browser? F*** outta here!
Mac Dub @ Oct 17th 2007 3:28PM
@ Argot
I wouldn't say the iPhone is the laughing stock of Europe. They're selling here in Spain for as much as € 1,500. That's over $2,000. I'd say somebody's laughing it up, but not at Apple's expense.
riggs @ Oct 17th 2007 8:48AM
YES..YES...OH GOD YES!
rashan Moore @ Oct 17th 2007 8:49AM
looks alot like a pocket pc phone. what happen to that nokia style they had years ago?
Nomi @ Oct 17th 2007 8:51AM
They should just put a gsm chip in there and make it a phone...
Jesse S @ Oct 17th 2007 12:24PM
GSM? Why? GSM is the worst cell standard still in widespread use today.
CDMA is superior in every way to GSM.
And SIM cards? Look up R-UIM. China and Korea use them.
I do agree, this would be the best, most functional phone, ever.
Adam Wroblaski @ Oct 17th 2007 8:51AM
Oh wow, I wonder how much it's going to be, seeing as I just bought an N800. Any words on specs yet? GPS? Better Proc?
PCFanboisrock @ Oct 17th 2007 8:54AM
CAN ANYONE SAY SIDEKICK RIPOFF?!!?!?!??!?!?
HOW DO THEY GET AWAY WITH THIS?
Argot @ Oct 17th 2007 8:56AM
I think your Mac-keyboard is broken crapple fanboi.
bob @ Oct 17th 2007 11:05AM
"I think your Mac-keyboard is broken crapple fanboi."
lol, did you read his comment or user name? lol so quick to judge you forgot to read
Justin @ Oct 17th 2007 12:08PM
How does a comment with "crapple fanboi" in it get to be Highly Ranked? What's wrong with you idiots?
Chris @ Nov 12th 2007 11:12AM
Bob, perhaps you should consider that perhaps his username is sarcastic.
Because it is.
Fernando @ Oct 17th 2007 8:57AM
I see stereo speakers, a 3.5mm headphone jack, and a regular usb port (!!) no mini or micro!
hot hot hot!
Bill @ Oct 17th 2007 8:59AM
Want. Bad. When?
riggs @ Oct 17th 2007 9:07AM
5th graders called they want their joke back.
Jason @ Oct 17th 2007 9:11AM
looks like built in GPS.... if yes, I'm SOLD!
A.T. @ Oct 17th 2007 11:57AM
Yes, internal GPS.
Den Lim @ Oct 17th 2007 9:11AM
the big question is HOW MUCH?
Jorde @ Oct 17th 2007 11:10AM
One big store in Finland already listed N810 for 469 euros (removed it afterwards). Engadgets pics are from Nokia's news room so the press release shoud come quickly.
Discussions on Finnish mobile forum also indicate that it has build in GPS and it feels great!!
I have really high hopes for this if the price goes down a little (they are selling N800 for less than 300e ATM).
Alfred @ Oct 19th 2007 6:04PM
whom cares? That's so sweet
Constable Odo @ Oct 17th 2007 9:16AM
It's a nice a handset, but they are still going to try to copy the iPhone no matter how many other handsets they put out. I think Nokia should just keep putting out their ordinary designs for the masses and let Apple take over the smartphone market. They'll have less grief in the long run.
Once Leopard is running on desktops and the latest upgrades for the iPhone and the SDK are released, Nokia might as well pack it in. Once the iPhone 2.0 is offered to consumers, Nokia handsets will be an underdog in the smartphone category.
There will continue to be a few dinosaurs that need physical keyboards for input, so Nokia and RIM will serve those people happily.
Jason @ Oct 17th 2007 9:26AM
If Apple decides to be the gatekeeper of all iPhone/Touch apps via iTunes they will crash and burn. Just look how well the iPod games have done. If anyone could make and distribute iPod games, there would be thousands of them.
I was ready to get a Touch until I learned I couldn't put my own apps on it. It's a deal breaker, no matter how many ways Apple offers me to BUY music. I know I can hack it, but living in fear of an update... no thanks.
Love my macs, but the Nokia N810 is a much better mobile device option IMHO.
ByeLaw @ Oct 17th 2007 9:30AM
Constable, you Troll :)
"It's a nice a handset, but they are still going to try to copy the iPhone no matter how many other handsets they put out"
They had its predecessor out before the iPhone was a glimmer in Apples eye.
"I think Nokia should just keep putting out their ordinary designs for the masses and let Apple take over the smartphone market."
Nokia don't have to copy Apple, they have been in the smartphone business for years, have a look at the N95 for instance...
"Once the iPhone 2.0 is offered to consumers, Nokia handsets will be an underdog in the smartphone category."
Hopefully they will also get rid of all those toxic chemicals in their phones as well ;)
getz76 @ Oct 17th 2007 9:37AM
@ Constable Odo
"There will continue to be a few dinosaurs that need physical keyboards for input, so Nokia and RIM will serve those people happily."
I'll disagree. I've used my mate's iPhone. Cute, and a nice device if you want to listen to music and make some calls and surf the web a bit. However, if you make a lot of calls and you want to do emails and lots of SMS-texting, a physical QWERTY is where it is at. In fact, I prefer my phone keypad and predictive text on my Sony w810 over the iPhone's soft keyboard, and my Blackberry blows both out of the water.
Cheers.
Benson @ Oct 17th 2007 10:56AM
a physical QWERTY?
I disagree. a physical keyboard, yes, but not QWERTY. No, not Dvorak either!
How about alphabetical, like on my HP49G+? (OK, not quite like the 49, as that is taking backseat to calculator keys, so some wierdness of layout.)
If you are not holding your hands in the conventional touch-typing home-row pose, then matching a touch-typing layout is senseless. Either design an optimal layout for thumbing/whatever digits get used, or use an obvious layout to which users may adapt their own preferred style.
The former, IMHO, presumes too much knowledge of how different users will hold an oversized bar of soap, and will likely cost as much for people with different grips as it gains for the target people. (Only a few % either way, once they get used to it.)
Still, I'm with you on physical keyboard. When you can feel the keys, you will eventually be able to "touch-type" on it, because your thumb/finger/whatever just knows where to go for that letter, and the outline of the keys eliminates any fractional error.
riggs @ Oct 17th 2007 11:03AM
since when has the iphone been a smartphone? even apple doesnt call it that (and refuses to) why do apple fanatics seem to think that they can?
lassi @ Oct 17th 2007 11:23AM
it's not a handset, it's not an iphone copy either in ANY sense, the whole product line is way older than iphone, if anything iphone is a 770 wannabe.
it's a web pad, "internet tablet" like 770 and 800. they're an extra, not a phone replacer. they're what FOLEO wanted to be(it even runs a quite open linux variant).
the screens on them are excellent, 800 pixels wide. batt is nice on them, but thats partly because if you're not doing anything it can be put to sleep, unlike a phone that has to have the phone chip running all the time..
addition of a hw keyboard is a big plus.
XenoX101 @ Oct 17th 2007 9:18AM
So where do I sign?
1-22 @ Oct 17th 2007 9:25AM
Obviously by the replies some of you have no idea what the N800/N810 is about...
Justin @ Oct 17th 2007 12:07PM
exactly. i'm an iPhone owner and i'm disgusted with it even being brought up in respect to the Nokia N810. it's not even the same device. you can knock the iPhone and say at least this has GPS in it. get over yourselves people, the iPhone isn't that serious.
Trevor Maskery @ Oct 17th 2007 9:26AM
hehe i like how the mockups are using apple based browsers see the scrollbar in the pic.. :P either apple mockup or safari on nokia product lol
richard @ Oct 17th 2007 9:37AM
I think you'll find that the scroll bars are part of the flash applet the site uses, MP3 Tunes just ripped off Apple's scrollbars.
nb @ Oct 17th 2007 3:38PM
Because Nokia uses the same webkit as the iPhone.
http://press.nokia.com/PR/200506/998214_5.html
"Apple is pleased to assist Nokia in creating their new Series 60 browser based on the same KHTML open source technology that powers Apple's Safari," said Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing. "The Safari Web Kit's blazing performance, efficient code base and support for open standards make it an ideal open source technology for projects like Nokia's new Series 60 browser."
DaveB @ Oct 18th 2007 10:52AM
Bzzt, challenge.
The Nokia browser on their S60 phones uses the same tech, this uses a Mozilla-based renderer.
Trg237 @ Oct 17th 2007 9:33AM
Can we please stop with the x ripped off y comments.
The only thing revolutionary about the iphone design is the multi-touch screen, other than that its just very pretty screen,(very minimalistic, I like it) The sidekick is just added a keyboard to a screen(pretty neat the way it flipped around), danger was a software company to begin with not really interested in hardware iirc.
So this is not really ripping off anybody, because its all based off a single idea that grew over time, screen + touch screen + keyboard now. The probably was a "first" to integrate a screen and keyboard in a small gadget. All these new full touch screen gadgets remind me of the star trek pads . . . If anything the N810 takes design hints from the iphone and the htc kaiser. But what really makes all these devices different is the software.
Benson @ Oct 17th 2007 11:02AM
The N800 ripped off the $10 bill!
Look:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:N800.jpg
Cesar Cardoso @ Oct 17th 2007 9:34AM
My Nokia 770 now can retire.
timo @ Oct 17th 2007 9:38AM
perhaps this one has the multilayered "3D" screen
Ryan @ Oct 17th 2007 9:40AM
Look again, it's not a fullsize port. Compare it to the USB port on the N800, they're about the same size. (Tricked me too when I first looked at the pics)
Serhei @ Oct 17th 2007 11:13AM
I see it's much smaller than the N800. It also doesn't look as bad as that spy shot.
But the only way I'm going to forgive the dpad inside the keyboard is if you can scroll it using your finger on the screen.
Jesse S @ Oct 17th 2007 9:51AM
Someone PLEASE tell me Kayako will work on this thing.
I use an i730 right now, and i'm not leaving VZW, but I'm getting fed up with them not releasing the i760 months ago.
I need a pdaphone for navigation, Kayako, SSH, and various other apps I could rewrite for this device.
DO WANT.
Flub @ Oct 17th 2007 9:56AM
It's not a phone.