True to form, Apple has
rethought its strategy on an App Store
rejection, and has granted the "politically charged" iSinglePayer rights to terrorize potential buyers with its alarming messages. If you'll recall, the application tackles the hot-button healthcare issue in America by offering spending advice for consumers and a GPS lookup for local Congress members' and their healthcare-related donations. As we mentioned
in our original post, it's a pretty tame set of functionality, and certainly nothing that seems outwardly offensive (at least not any more offensive than
lots of apps you can purchase). Just as with our previous complaints about Apple's way of doing business, it's not so much the rejections that bother us, but the unclear set of circumstances by which the company arrives at those decisions. Regardless, some firebrand app reviewer has seen fit to allow this townhall-rattling piece of software into the Store, so now you can go see what all the fuss was about for yourself.
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posted October 5th 2009 8:03PM
I wonder if they get dizzy at Apple's app approval division with how many 180's they've been doing?
thank you for not saying 360s
You know why it's called the iPhone 3GS? Because you do a 3GS and walk away.
i'm replying up here to get this heard.
ENGADGET close the comments. that is all
Umm, Google Voice please? =\
PREPOSTEROUS!
/british accent
Politcally? wut
Of course we spend the most on health care.
The 5 biggest hospitals in Boston run more clinical trials than the rest of the world, combined.
The National Institutes of Health funds over $30 billion of research annually. What other country even comes close to that?
The vast majority of medical devices, drugs and treatments come from American companies.
How many Nobel prizes in medicine came from countries that have a single payer system? I'll give you a hint--most are American citizens using funds from the United States.
We do have a bogus health care system--WHO ranks us as #37. However, our treatments, technology and physicians are the best in the world. Lets trying fixing our system without compromising what we are the best at. Show me what single payer system has accomplished even a fraction of what we have to the advancement of the field--and I'll support whatever BO is going to throw at us.
"The National Institutes of Health funds over $30 billion of research annually. What other country even comes close to that?"
I find it pretty ironic that one of your arguments against government health care is how great government funded research is. By the way, it's complete bullshit to say that there isn't medical research in other countries. France, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, UK, they all have a tremendous amount of medical research going on. And believe it or not, France, Belgium, and Switzerland have some of the largest drug companies in the world! can you imagine that? And they even make profits too!
@Tony - The WHO ranks you at 37 which means you're 37th best for some pretty legitimate reasons. You have the 37th best doctors and treatments and hospitals and equipment. This is why you're 37th. Seriously, are you handicapped?
"find it pretty ironic that one of your arguments against government health care is how great government funded research is."
Because we know the government running an industry is the same as giving money to private institutions to do research.
Oh, and from what I heard today, the US swept the all the medical Nobel Prizes.
Not bad for a nation without socialized medicine.
@ Kamil, so i worked at nuclear power plants for 3 years. Working at Outages, and then having off when the plants were in full swing. When I wasn't working for 6 months, I did not get health insurance. So i contributed to society but recieved no health insurance. When I was working for a construction company, no health care. So i worked 50 hours a week but I don't contribute to society, your logic baffles me!
If USA is so #1 in healthcare, how come 40 million people simply don't have it here? Spending the most and having the best doesn't mean a thing if not everyone is covered. It's so great we spend so much and have such great care, except again it doesn't mean a thing if people can't afford it. #1 cause of bankruptcy: medical bills. USA #1!!! We swept the nobel prizes! 40 million without health care! People going bankrupt even with insurance! USA #1!!!
This to "Moron". 40 million people is a huge lie. For one, that includes illegals, who don't are breaking the law anyway, and don't really count. (Since its supposed to be US citizens) it also includes people who CHOOSE not to buy it it, as well as people waiting to switch from one plan to the next.
In reality 10mil or less are actually NOT covered by choice. 10mil, 3% or LESS. You're going to ruin 1/6th the economy for 3/100 of the population?
#1 cause of bankruptcy: poor money management.
Does everyone "deserve" a house? Isn't a roof over your head more important than access to a doctor? How about college education - everyone deserve that as well? Food? Should every single person be eligible for a gov't paid meal?
If you haven't checked lately we have this thing called a deficit. It is now running in the TRILLIONS per year. That's before we provide food to every person, or a personal doctor to all that are sick or a college education to everyone who applies. That's just brilliant. The Arabs/Chinese/Russians and Japanese are already in deep discussions over dropping the dollar as the currency of choice for the oil industry. Why don't we make the problem WORSE by going deeper into debt or alternatively taxing like crazy the people that actually work.
We need to right the economy before worrying about this other stuff. A strong dollar, a strong economy will go a long way towards alleviating the pressure around healthcare. Get more people employed first, then you will see the housing market rebound, the deficit shrink and the dollar get stronger. Then we can talk about ways to make the healthcare industry more effective and efficient.
@Moron
There is a difference between health care and health insurance. Everyone has health care. Not everyone has health insurance. There is a growing momentum to avoid insurance all together by some clinics even because of the increased cost to the clinic to use your insurance to pay for anything.
Insurance != Care.
Americans win the nobel eh, let;s see:
Blackburn, 60, who holds U.S. and Australian citizenship, is a professor of biology and physiology at the University of California, San Francisco
London-born Szostak, 56, is a professor of genetics at Harvard Medical School and a researcher with the Howard Hughes Medical Institute.
(not sure if that's london canada or london england.)
So yeah those 'americans' win nobels and do expensive research because they go over bodies and people's lives and ruin them to draw every last penny from them leaving them sleeping in boxes on the street, so that non-americans can come to the US and win prizes for making up another 10cents pill that will be sold for $1000 until people are destitute and dead.
That's the working sytem, now go protect it, not because you care for it but because you must halt obama from doing anything until the republicans can get a deranged new monkey in the white house to wreck more havoc in the world and US and see if he can't beat bush's record and finally kill the US and its constitution once and for all.
Fine with me.
Silly liberals. Where is the graph for quality of care? Pretty sure they will look the same.
Beat me to it. I bet Libya spends a lot less per capita than the US too.
yeah....right, tell that to the millions without healthcare, im sure they will be thrilled for you.
ohh... that 47 million bullcrap?
10M of those are illegals
another 10M CHOOSE not to get it...
so your real number is 27 million.
now, I'm not even counting people in prison...
so are you saying that we should sacrifice quality and choice,
so 27 million, who don't contribute anything to society anyways,
can get free healthcare?
Kamil, if the richest country in the world has only one person without healthcare, it means something is wrong. I dont agree with your view that 27 million people (almost 10% of the country) means nothing, honestly its a whole bunch of people. So because someone is poor, and in your view doesnt contribute anything to society (in the completely monetary, superficial and utterly ignorant way you say) you should just let them die? sounds a lot like hitler to me, and for that matter we should kill off the old and the sick too, they dont contribute anything either, heck lets kill the children, its just a waste of money. If you think 27 million is nothing, well i suppose we will never get to any consensus on this.
My point, is that we should not just simply "give them" the free stuff.
Seriously, most Americans are dependent of the government...
thats not the way it should be.
redistributed wealth is no way of helping people. in the end, its going to bite everyones butt.
@oliveros: Believe it or not, people actually can live without health insurance (well, until they're in their late '50s, then it starts becoming economically viable for them to have some).
Water on the other hand...
@Backlin true, they can live without health care, good point, but as the population gets older and older things are going to get worse. You're right, theres two sides to everything.
@Kamil that is right, giving stuff away all the time doesnt help, but I have always thought that if you give good healthcare and education to poor people, they will eventually end up making progress. Taking those worries out of their minds gives them time and money to invest in more productive activities.
@oliveros
Godwin Law invoked. You loose. Sorry.
list of industrialized nations that do not have public health care that aren't the united states:
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@ D haha damn it! I fell to fast for it.
@oliveros123
Unless man someone how becomes perfect, no crime, no hate....
thats not gonna happen.
@Uncontrol
so just cuz every country does something, we should too?
hmm... reminds me of a childhood saying... something with bridges
God damnit, engdaget. Why did you bring politics onto my favorite technology site. I hate you I hate you I hate you.
@Conceyted
Amen brother. Hey all you Europeans and Canadians the "quality" of your health care (even though it covers more people and cost much, much less) sux ass!
I urge all of us young repubs and future "Billionaires" to join the movement:
http://www.billionairesforwealthcare.com/
list of industrialized nations, other than the US that put a man on the moon:
Yeah, didnt find any either. And we didnt have socialized medicine back then either. how did we manage???
"list of industrialized nations, other than the US that put a man on the moon:
Yeah, didnt find any either. And we didnt have socialized medicine back then either. how did we manage???"
What the hell does this even mean?
Keep on flooding Conceyted's inbox :)
"What the hell does this even mean?"
rough translation to simpleton.
Just because you are an industrialized nation, does not mean you have to copy every frigging thing every other industrialized nation does. If you want, I can list a lot of things those nations do I guarantee you dont want copied here.
Engadget: Conservative Views Will Be Seen in Light Grey.
Hell, that could be said about the internet in general.
Thank you for not taking an immediate stance yourself, Joshua.
Now excuse me while I laugh at your time wasted internet arguing. LAUGH AT YOU. HAHAHAHAH.
Screw society, every person fend for himself.
Quality of care? How about life expectancy. Canada and France both have better, England about same.
Silly conservatives. It's like watching clownschool on the helm of a ship. Entertaining, but you wouldn't like to be onboard, or even on the same ocean.
@ Kamil "10M of those are illegals
another 10M CHOOSE not to get it"
First, where is your authority that 10 M illegals are out there getting health care without insurance? Or the 10M who choose not to get insurance? If you find the 47M number to be dubious without proof, I can find either of your 10M to be equally dubious.
Second, assuming your numbers are correct:
(1) Illegals don't get insurance under the proposed plan (no matter what Joe Wilson says... read the bill before you spout other lies)
(2) It is the 10 M that choose not to get insurance that are part of the problem. When one of them gets seriously ill or injured and they go to the hospital where they are (and should be) treated, who do you think pays for it? Either we all do, or the hospital has to eat the cost... neither of which is good for an industry that is 1/6 of the economy.
I can appreciate your opposition to health care reform (I can't understand it... but I can appreciate it), so long as it is opposition that results from rational thought. Are you sure you've done that? Or are you too busy being scared of the boogeyman of "socialism" just because it sounds like the Soviet Union?
Liberals don't feel the need to use logic. Don't ya know?
glen beck uses so much logic, doesnt he?
Glen Beck? He's a raving lunatic. I hate him. He's probably the only person who has less logic then most liberals.
@Kamil
FYI Glenn agrees with your stated opinion on health care.
I guess you are calling yourself dumb....
liberals and apple fanatics = the same group of people.
They are both willing to pay high taxes:
The apple tax is only about 200 dollars per device but the tax that will be required for universal healthcare is going to be far greater
i guess you could say that, but unfortunately, the people that use apples also have the propensity to be right more often. Hence, we are not conservatives.
The difference is that I choose to buy Apple products of my own free will, when I choose to do so. After I purchase said product, I am usually happy with the quality. If not, it can be returned.
I'm not sure any of these things apply to my income taxes :)
Isn't Rush Limbaugh a Mac user?
http://www.switched.com/2008/03/17/rush-limbaugh-gets-his-mac-fixed/
I guess this make him a LIBERAL. Cue to the scary music!
right...
and republicans and anti-apple zealots are also the same group of people...
crybabies who act on faith, without logic or reasoning, and think that if they believe something strongly enough it makes it true... just keep saying the lies and half truths ad-nauseum and in the end it becomes reality
My favorite group of health care protesters is: Billionaires for Wealthcare!
Slogan: "If we ain't broke, don't fix it"
http://www.billionairesforwealthcare.com/signs/
http://www.billionairesforwealthcare.com/