Samsung Bada handsets of the future revealed in presentation slide
Just in case you had any doubts about Samsung's commitment to the physical keyboard, here's a slide of the Korean giant's Bada OS roadmap, filled with rubbery QWERTY buttons aplenty. At top left you can see the Wave -- which Samsung places in its "premium image brand" together with the Galaxy S -- priced at 20,000 Rubles (just under $700), followed by its as yet nameless and spec-less Bada siblings. Our interest is piqued most by the QWERTY slider that's sat so perfectly atop the 10,000-Ruble line, we wouldn't mind seeing the Super AMOLED screen tech trickling down to such a price point. We wouldn't mind that at all. All About Phones has also spotted two Windows Mobile and one Android handset during the presentation, though Sammy has been predictably recalcitrant about specs on those as well. All we're told is to wait for the autumn. Guess that will have to do.
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And then the cow jumped over the moon.
With the Wave as the most expensive phone on the slide, I'm guessing that's their best product in this year...?
At least for their Russian market, I guess...
@silvestre Always the best for the russian market...
@silvestre No, that's their best Bada OS phone as of now and presumably for the year. Galaxy S has better specs than the Wave, but it's rocking Android, though with a very Bada/touchwiz-skin, instead of Bada.
@juanvaldez
Well, better specs.....it has bigger screen and no camera flash, that´s all if you pick de 8Gb version.
Correct me if I´m wrong.
And I prefer the aluminium body of the wave (for me that´s a plus).
@Kohai I was alluding mostly to the graphics processor...
Wheres the Windows Phone 7 Phones we want?
......yes, odd wording
@abedinthehouse Erhm... This is meant for the Bada platform. Not the Windows Phone 7... =)
@abedinthehouse
Not really, you could've just said "Where are the Windows 7 phones"...
@Raul7
Not really, unless you could get Windows 7 working on a phone...
@Raul7 That's it! Time to go back to "Windows Phone 7 Series" in order to make it Windows Phone 7 Series phones.
Samsung wave is gona be my next phone!
Its got everything i need, good camera, HD video recording. Slim with super amoled and anti smudge tech which is awesome.
100 apps to boot and hopefully a 1000 at the end of the year.
a very good price of 336 pounds for the 8gb version.
@Jaco I was thinking the same, though I wanted to wait and see two things:
1) What Samsung would be like with their app approval process (I don't want another Apple situation)
2) What Samsung devices would ship within a reasonable period.
The answer to both of these questions made a very easy decision with going Android, which will obviously start with more apps and freedom than Bada. I think more app development is also probable, though since Samsung is targeting 10M international sales of the Wave (seems like a stretch, but hey) actually Bada and the Wave might be able to compete in apps.
I don't understand why they made the Bada OS when there's Android for free with its growing Android Market. Seems like work for nothing that in fact must have cost quite a bit of skilled man power.
I'll just keep an eye on the Galaxy S (Pro) even though I wish they added HDMI out and a flash for the camera at the last minute. Oh...and that they release it to all European countries in a timely fashion. The first Galaxy took ages to hit some markets (eg. Sweden & Switzerland). The HTC Evo has a lot of (justified) hype as Sprint has Wimax in the US but most countries will got the LTE route so it's irrelevant there.
@Schmich
android is free? lol..
they are investigating for the long-term profits tho i dont know if they are doing it right with bada..
@zxiixz er investing.
@Schmich
maybe because some people don't want a phone with spydroid on it?
just guessing...
@Schmich I see it as 2 main reasons.
1.) You build more brand-loyalty if you can get consumers into your ecosystem (ala-Apple).
2.) You can differentiate your product more than you can within Android. Yes, Android allows skinning, but people are still buying into Android OS and their apps. Plus, skinning puts you behind Android's software development cycle, you have to react and then fine tune you're product to meet their OS. With having the underlying OS controlled by you, you face a much smaller issue here.
3.) You get more revenue by having your own app store.
4.) You have control your destiny. Who knows what Google might do in the future with Android? Perhaps mandated hardware specs to prevent segregation? Think of the worst case scenario for Samsung...
I think their strategy relies on many things and it will be a difficult road for them. However, if they can pull it off, they stand to have a more solid footing in the industry over the next 3-5 years. So, while their is a free OS out there, this one, if done right will stand to pay for itself many times over.
@Schmich Engadget comment fail? 2nd try:
I see it as 2 main reasons.
1.) You build more brand-loyalty if you can get consumers into your ecosystem (ala-Apple).
2.) You can differentiate your product more than you can within Android. Yes, Android allows skinning, but people are still buying into Android OS and their apps. Plus, skinning puts you behind Android's software development cycle, you have to react and then fine tune you're product to meet their OS. With having the underlying OS controlled by you, you face a much smaller issue here.
3.) You get more revenue by having your own app store.
4.) You have control your destiny. Who knows what Google might do in the future with Android? Perhaps mandated hardware specs to prevent segregation? Think of the worst case scenario for Samsung...
I think their strategy relies on many things and it will be a difficult road for them. However, if they can pull it off, they stand to have a more solid footing in the industry over the next 3-5 years. So, while their is a free OS out there, this one, if done right will stand to pay for itself many times over.
@juanvaldez guess not on the comment fail, sorry. I tried to wait a minute, closed the tab and then refreshed. And then after submitting #2 I even wanted to edit to change "2 main reasons" and update....oh, me fail twice (add to that now a grammar fail) =(.
@Schmich If Samsung was the first with a revolutionary device and was on the same road as Apple was back then, sure. But starting with an OS alone at present time will be just like Palm and its WebOS.
Brand-loyalty doesn't require a whole new OS. That's why the Android skin will look like Bada and if they wanted it on more products, eg. on TVs, they won't put Bada but something more lightweight that will a similar look.
I just think it would have better to write their own excellent proprietary modules/apps on Android than to start from scratch and do everything all mediocre from A to Z. Now they have to keep up-to-date their Android devices and ALL of the Bada code. I hope it works out for them.
@Schmich
Well, I think they have realized that money is not in the hw but in the sw (look at apple...and nokia, they are perfect examples of one and the other).
That´s why they are trying to make their own app market and OS, if it works the´ll make more money from there than from the phones sales.
Agreed on the OLED.
The 800x480 on the Omnia 2 coupled with a built-in divx player is just great!
Sammy has been making some great phones lately.
Hopefully they'll keep that magic going. :)
I have a Samsung phone right now and I really regret the purchase. No updates, phones OS sucks and it is not really worth it. Will Samsung make a device worthy of being purchased? That remains to be seen
@Mike Vick
Sucks to be you, foolish consumer.
Do a little research on the things you buy before you blame the manufacturer for your mistakes.
No company makes 100% good stuff, duh.
@Mike Vick Sounds like you've got a Jet like I do?
Samsung hung their customers out to dry on this POS. Terrific hardware, NO SUPPORT, no updates, and no apps like they promised. Then they release Bada, and while the Jet has more than enough power to run it, "Sorry, you'll need to drop another $550 on another handset"
The sickening part is this phone isn't even a year old yet.
android is the way to go I don't see hope in bada
Wait... Samsung products that aren't being held up by sexy Korean girls?
Samsung OSs' are just shit. Clunky, ugly and crap compared to Android and iPhone OS.
@Apple Google Microsoft
The current samsung's Os were based on symbian. Have you seen how smooth their own bada os is running? Runs as smooth as the iphone OS.
:)
Big Bada Boom!
Leeloo multipass!
Samsung should realize that it's not a software company. It's strength is hardware and should invest resources on Android and Windows Phone 7 and dumb phones.
They did the same thing with Omnia 2, invested 5 million dollars on advertising Omnia 2's sibling Samsung Jet (dumb phone) and completely ignoring Omnia 2 (windows mobile 6.5). The time Omnia 2 was released it was one of the best phones (definitely not now thanks to HTC HD2).
I guess they concentrate too much on korean market and fail to get the vibe on other markets.
I definitely see a Sprint Moment 2 in there.
Bada is stupid. Just stick to Android.
@Johnny Rockets
Android is Stupid. Just embrace the new Bada.
Bada makes me want to say badass
According to Samsung(and mobile-reviews) Bada is not an OS but a plattform.
So every app developed for bada will run on every bada device.
The Bada Plattform is an extension to an OS, like Touch-Wiz, so we're gonna see bada apps on Samsung's Android Devices too, not only on their proprietary OS Phones...
Something like AIR but only for Samsung Phones...