Dell UltraSharp U3011 about to join 30-inch IPS monitor crew
By Vlad Savov 
posted August 5th 2010 5:32AM
posted August 5th 2010 5:32AM
posted August 5th 2010 5:32AM
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That's a mouse cursor, I think.
@Leo Hah, it is indeed.
2,560 x 1,600 Resolution FTW!
@stefcio007
Damn straight, i want this monitor
@stefcio007
Yep, 16:10 aspect ratio, just like their IPS 24-incher. If only they did that on the 27-incher....
How is this monitor different from 3007WFP or 3007WFP-HC or 3008WFP? They are all 2560x1600, IPS panels.
@stefcio007 i wish you could get it in a smaller size though, like 24"
@olegkikinhotmailcom It's the 10-bit part. 1.07 billion colors.
That's big boy there...
@DeviantmacG
Thats what she always says. It never fails to awe every time.
This is old news! We need 4K resolution!
@dtakias
Agree. We've had 2560 for ages now. Want something really insane on my desk.
@dtakias Either it's going to be a huge display and very, very expensive, or a higher density display, and probably still very expensive. I haven't heard about an operating system having usable resolution independence yet, is there one?
@JDM
Not sure about that! There a few monitors close to 4k though... http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/sony-trimaster-quad-hd-lcd-multiplies-the-resolution-and-the-pr/
@JDM
Resolution independence goes contrary to the very idea of increasing resolution in the first place. I want a larger resolution to fit more stuff on the screen, not to have more detailed icons or better aliased text.
I'd rather see they spend money on improving our eyes than sink any into resolution independence.
Anyway, I'll settle for 1440p screens that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. A 27" 1440p TN panel without the exotic connectivity would do me just fine, I work with text rather than imagery after all.
@Kurian Get 2 of them?
@dtakias
I am waiting until AMOLED, 3D, and 3840x2160p@240Hz is standard.
7ms response time is a bummer,
Apple's 27" LED IPS is more appealing.
At least there's a fruit logo on it!!
@andyusa
How often do you need more than 140fps?
@Malcolm
not sure, but on a 30" display 7ms is sloooow,
even my 24" LG can do 2ms,
Gaming on a 7ms display probably sucked.
@andyusa
Apple's 27" monitor has a 12ms response time...
And I'm guessing this monitor will have a matte display rather than the horrendous high-gloss displays Apple are set on using...Then again, to each his own, I certainly wont be needing a 30" display anytime soon.
@plenaghan88
so this and the cinema display aren't good for gaming, huh?
what about LED TVs,
generally what's their response time?
@andyusa
mate. you were the one who brought up response times, personally I could care less about it. But when you pay out one screens response time, then praise another ones (which is worse), something is a bit off there...
@plenaghan88
my bad, really didn't pay much attention to the new 27" cinema display.
But does IPS monitors generally have slower response time?
My main purpose is for gaming and movies, so response time does matter to me.
@andyusa if you're just using it for gaming and films, then a normal TN display should suit your needs. IPS displays are noted for their colour accuracy compared to TN displays, so, if you're doing content creation (particularly, video and image editing), then an IPS display is ideal.
But yes, IPS displays do generally have slower response times than a TN panel, as mentioned, they're more accurate than TN panels (which will hit response times), and they have a higher bit depth than TN panels (typically, a TN panel is only capable of displaying 6 bits per colour, or 18 bit colour, in total, and relies on dithering to get to '24 bit' colour).
Still, IPS panels are far better than MVA/PVA panels, delivering equivalent (or equal) colour response at a far better response time.
@andyusa I always game on my Apple 30 inch..no problems.
@andyusa I also bet your monitor is a crappy TN.
@genomecop
Is ghosting a problem with your 30 incher? Also what games do u play on it?
@andyusa
Quit giving andyusa a hard time. He was wrong about the response times and posted typical apple fanboyish nonsense but has admitted his mistake.
I use a 3008WFP dell ultrasharp 30 monitor too, I use it for PC gaming and with an xbox 360. People claim IPS monitors ghost but I haven't noticed it and I've got about 15 games for the 360 here. I'm sure it happens but its not something I've noticed happen regularly or constantly.
FYI: Next time just because it's from Apple dont assume it's better just because Apples hype machine tries to make their products sound better, theres other products out there that are highly polished and have usually better specs/performance. That's not to say Apple doesn't make good things but their marketing tries to always suggest everyone elses products are complete garbage which isn't even close to true.
@andyusa
I have a dell 2209WA (IPS) with 6ms response time and its awesome for gaming (and movies too), really nice picture quality and the "higher" response time isn't even noticeable, at least to me. I wanna buy another one!
@andyusa
Your LG is 2ms grey-to-grey which is a cheating way of measuring response time. Dell uses black-white, the proper way. Your LG is probably 5ms black-white.
@andyusa
The problem is that you simply have no idea what you're talking about. A 7ms response time equates to a 142Hz refresh rate. Computers dish out 60-75hz to the monitor. This thing can update twice as fast as your computer can feed it. Also, the 2ms response time you quoted is BS...as someone else mentioned that's grey to grey response...a way for monitor companies to cheat and give low response numbers. Beyond that, it's an IPS. It's not made for gaming (though I'm sure it would excel at that). It's made for graphic design.
My Dell 2005FPW has an advertised 12ms typical response time. I use it for gaming all the time and it's totally fine. I don't notice any ghosting. 7ms is absolutely fine for gaming.
Now show me the ultra price so I can ignore it.
@cdf74dc9 They sell the Dell 27" for $1100 so I'd guess $1300-1500 for the 30".
The advantage this has over Apple's $999 display is the flexible display position, matte panel and higher vertical resolution.
Black levels look better on Apple's glossy screens but I prefer matte panels. For once, Apple is for the budget-conscious buyer though.
Technically none are for the budget-conscious though. I stick to sub-$300 IPS displays and I'm content.
"TFT Central reports it'll be a 10-bit H-IPS panel from LG Display, bearing a 7ms response time, 1,000:1 contrast ratio, 370 nits of brightness (ahem, overkill), and 178-degree viewing angles on both the horizontal and vertical axis."
That's wonderful and all but what's the colour accuracy of the display? I'm honestly not that bothered about the other specifications and simply want to know how good it will be for colour-critical work. Is it going to give the NEC and LaCie displays a run for their money?
@Kelmon on PCPop you can see it comes with a factory colorcalibration report, just like the 2711. So it will be more color accurate OOTB than most other monitors but for best results you will still need to calibrate it yourself. My guess is it will give the other monitors a good run for their money.
It's not even Dell's first 30", it's just the next iteration of the 3008WFP, which was the next iteration of the 3007WFP, which were both IPS.
@bhtooefr
There was a huge leap from the 3007 to the 3008, the 3007 would only display in two resolutions 2560x1600 and 1280x800. So if you connected a 360 to it by hdmi you could only display up to 1280x800 and not the full 1080p. The 3008wfp came with a hardware scaler built into the monitor which allows all other ports on the monitor to output to 2560x1600 resolution. This allowed the 360 to be plugged in and display 1920x1080 (1080p) resolution and all other devices that you wanted to plug in and use higher resolutions at.
The newer 30 is using an H-IPS display, whereas the 3008 and 3007 both used S-IPS. the H-IPS panels are supposedly better with color accuracy and other visual aspects.
@loadoftoad I literally just ordered my 3008wfp monday... it's supposed to arrive on this coming monday, do you think I should return it and wait for this new one to come out? What are the advantages, other than 1ms quicker responce time and the H-IPS screen?
Why is this one not called 3009WFP?
I hate it when this happens. You order something, are so excited about it and then your friend links you to the replacement product coming out "Soon™"
@Kuipo
I'd return it simply because Dell will drop the price on it within days of the new 30 coming out. I picked up my dell 30 for around 900 back in dec 2009, dell then raised the prices to an excessive 1600, the monitors when they came out were around 2k. The apple cinema 30 to my knowledge has no scaler and was only able to reproduct with the 3007 could do so it was a poor performer compared to the dell.
The newer monitor obviously uses an h-ips screen which is supposedly much better than s-ips. You likely will be paying close to 2k for it though if you want that model. The idea is wait for the new model to come out and price drops then buy the 3008wfp :) at a lower price. It's not worth paying 600+ more for the newer model unless you are doing graphic design.
I freak out over a dead pixel on a 23 display, so I can't imagine going through batches and batches of 30's to find the right one.
@Amusednow: At least Dell has a dead pixel guarantee.
@Amusednow
IPS displays will not have dead pixels, these are sold to professionals.
I currently have 3 30" Dells in front of me. They rock! Too bad the cost $1200+ each.
At least someone is keeping up with the resolution/quality race. Other manufactures have decided to go back and use 1080p as their "selling point" for the masses.
I love me some 30 inches.
what's the color gamut on this thing?
Looks decent. I don't know why anyone bothers to list refresh rates and contrast ratios, they are all BS numbers that don't mean anything. Why isn't there a standard for these things!!
Unlike the HP, this apparently has a fully features OSD. Advantage Dell on that one.
I'm sure it will become popular. Later you will find similar ones at
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