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With all the updates announced today the rest of the market is going to have a tough time catching up, If Google market syncs the way it was demo'd the…

Android market just surpassed itunes by a huge leap. Plus all the connectivity between Chrome browser and Android that is built in is just incredible. The speed is just a bonus really. Plus I couldn't help but laugh when they jabbed apple constantly the way apple jabs everyone, at least Google did it in a joking manner. I for one can not wait for GoogleTV and Froyo.

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frankspin

I don't think there is anything overly exciting about GoogleTV, honestly. For one you still need a cable/satellite subscription to make a full featured product the way they were demoing it. Most people want to move away from this and not have to rely so heavily on a subscription. Not to mention, currently, it's just another box added to the mix of most people's already crowded home entertainment set up.

I will say the integration of most web outlets in one spot (Youtube, Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, etc) is pretty slick BUT it's already been kind of done with current TV & blu-ray sets that support all of those services. Google just implemented a search feature to aggregate all the info for you. It's really kind of like they took TiVO Premier & Boxee and had a baby.
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deinfinityx

This may be but at he same time this is what I want, the fact its integrated with Android, and has a browser is ideal. I mean I already run my computer through my tv and thats just annoying. I guess the bonus for me is I already have dish and can upgrade when their integrated receiver comes out makes it more ideal for me. The biggest thing I take away from this is that this isn't going to be a niche product its going to be wide spread. Dish users/ sony users, it has the potential to take web content even farther then it currently is.

And as far as I can tell it can integrate into any setup be it just digital free tv or cable, so it could be used on its own it just piggybacks onto what you are already using. The integration they showed is strictly for Dish.
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frankspin

I agree with pushing web content but remember that most programming on the web is still not up to par with what netflix or even vudu are doing with quality. They both offer 720/1080P resolution for a lot of programming. Using Hulu is nice but the quality still does not even compare.
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deinfinityx

I agree but this could push it to be Netflix quality. Hulu maybe be popular but its probably not close to Netflix. I see this uping quality and generally making it better and easier to watch internet content on a TV. I use my bluray to watch youtube and what not but its clunky, same with boxee when I ran it on my old laptop. Its nice but not easy. It sounds like logitech and sony will integrate the controls in such a way that it will be easy to sit on the couch and pull up what ever you want.

Plus there is also the Amazon store which means that the box's will have the ability to either store or stream purchased content. That's my hope anyway.
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dave

" Hulu maybe be popular but its probably not close to Netflix. I see this uping quality and generally making it better and easier to watch internet content on a TV."

I actually *don't* think this will be the case for Hulu. While I would absolutely love to be wrong, I think Hulu and their content partners have a proven record of doing absolutely everything they can to keep Hulu off our televisions and only available via our computers. There's no incentive for them to increase the quality of their output.

Meanwhile, the rest of the web is embracing this sort of use (Google TV, Boxee, PopBox, Apple TV, etc) and slowly marching forward.
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frankspin

Further more to dave's point, remember that Hulu is owned and operated by television studios. They want control over everything that is accessing their site. Remember that they blocked mobile phones from accessing their website shortly after the Incredible came out.

The fact that the demo had Hulu on there is interesting but however they didn't demo the Hulu interaction beyond just showing it as a search result. So it's definitely possible that they're jumping the gun on Hulu integration OR they're definitely working on a partnership.

A partnership would make sense when you consider Google is the ad giant right now and Hulu makes money from ads. They could develop an ad drive Hulu feed that delivers ads in the same manner Google does now on the web.
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deinfinityx

True and I see your point, but I also see Hulu dying off, most of the content I used to watch on Hulu was also available on the channels site, and most of them do not have the same restriction that Hulu does.

I may be wrong but doesn't ABC and those channels have apps in the app store that can stream shows? I only ask because if that is the case it is not so much the content providers as it is Hulu, and my guess is that blocks the potential for ad clicks that they rely on for income. Which is why I thought the PS3 was blocked because there was no way to view or click on the ads so they were not getting any revenue stream.
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dave

"I may be wrong but doesn't ABC and those channels have apps in the app store that can stream shows?"

Aye! And Hulu allegedly didn't want ABC to launch it:
www.appleinsider.com­/articles­/10­/04­/22­/hulu­_fears­_...

So you might be right, though I think it's a little of both. Content providers don't want their material available on other services unless they do it their own way. ABC has their own app that they can run advertising on and directly profit from it. I'm not sure how Hulu distributes their advertising income to content providers.
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deinfinityx

I think thats the key thing, Hulu is in it for the money like any other company and they really just aggregated all the content from everyone else. The demo showed being able to watch the shows from either Hulu or the example was Fox. I think this will push more of the original content providers being the defacto for the streams instead of Hulu.
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dave

Froyo definitely looks amazing! They've definitely raised the bar for this current batch of mobile operating systems.

The poking fun at Apple is amusing (especially since Apple does the same thing during its own keynotes). Though John Paczkowski (All Things Digital) pointed out this interesting thing that Vic (Google VP of Engineering) said today: “If we did not act, we faced a draconian future. Where one man, one company, one carrier was the future.”

Paczkowski on what Vic didn't say: "But We’re Just Fine With the Two Men, One Company, One Search Engine Model" Hah.

digitaldaily.allthingsd.com­/20100520­/qotd­-but­-were...
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deinfinityx

I agree but in making fun of someone else you ultimately make fun of yourself. If memory serves Apple bashes Googles "openness" in there keynotes and does it in a more serious tone. I have always appreciated Google's sense of humor since yes they were bashing apple but did it in a humors way
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frankspin

I put this in dave's thread but I'll dump this here too:

Another thing I thought about is how will this properly integrate with non-Dish providers? TiVO and Moxi rely on cablecards to be able to properly deliver the content. We all know how much of a hassle cablecards are.

I think a way google could have really knocked this one out of the park is by working with the providers. If they could come up with a way to access their VOD content from the googletv interface I think that people would be even more into it.

They also didn't touch on recording/saving content.
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